List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (16)
  • Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
  • Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
  • Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
  • (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
  • (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
  • (R) Sandy Brock (14/12/02) - Signed a 1 year contract (2025) when recruited as a SSP signing in February 2025
 
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bzparkes said:
How can we possibly be a destination club when we're mired int his rebuild?

Allen staying or going makes no difference.
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I remember back in the 90s and early 2000s- teams were circling the Eagles best, Peter Matera for instance but he stayed.

and players want to be going to go a club that has a window of success, not a rebuild. Unfortunately success looks at least and I politely say this 5 years away.


Garry Lyon tonight on AFL360 questions why Oscar Allen accepted the co-captaincy in the first place, which is a really valid point. Mentions the captaincy is different. Also says every player (in the Eagles) will look at Oscar Allen differently today. Also mentions that 'wouldn't surprise me if he steps down'.

Lyon says Eagles should speak to : Calsher Dear, Lloyd Meek, Ward and get them in a room. 🤣 And Toby Greene reckons it isn't a good look as well speaking on the show.
 

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NYRB said:
Trying to think of the last time a captain was traded from their club to another club. The last one I can think of was Geelongs Leigh Colbert when he wanted to move to a premiership contender, back then in North Melbourne.

Fair to say Geelongs fans weren't too happy with him.
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Tom Lynch from GC to Richmond.
 
IMHO, there's no doubt Allen's manager is being a campaigner and leaking this shit to the media as a way of turning up the heat on negotiations. But as a player, you don't even take a meeting with an opposition coach 3 games into the season unless you are one foot out the door. And if that's your mindset so early in the season, what does that say about your preseason and preparation?
 
Smotie2 said:
Can we lose both ours this off season?
Can we also lose Kelly to Freo and Reid to whoever so we have 7 top 20 picks before the draft is compromised by tasmaniavfl?
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On a serious note, is it possible the Eagles look to trade in for draft capital currency given Tasmania is coming in under 3 years time?


Quoted from Twitter (@BradKlibansky)
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Hawthorns Current Draft Capital:
Carlton’s 1st (currently pick 3)
Carlton’s 2nd (currently pick 21)
2026 Round 1
2027 Round 1 (can be traded this year)

They also have a group of talented players in the VFL that would likely be in the Eagles “Best 22” now who can potentially be offered up in a trade if required.

Max Ramsden
Henry Hustwaite
Jai Serong
Ned Reeves
Seamus Mitchell
James Blanck (when fit)
Sam Butler (when fit)


Im thinking the Eagles need to go for a full rebuild again. Harley Reid might not be interested long-term , although I don't think he has done too much wrong on the field. But nothing seems set in stone right now with him. Im not sure if we see Harley at his best in a blue and gold.

Its a C-grade midfield at best. West Coast paid overs to lure Tim Kelly back from Geelong and frankly his best is past him. Kelly has also admitted he has a lost of love for the game. Duggan is nothing more than a make-shift midfielder compared to the other mids in the comp. Duggan doesn't get enough hard ball/contested possessions and Eagles lack a proper 'inside mid' or two. Baker and Graham were McQualter carry ons from his time at Richmond. Yeo is banged up and injured and I never bought into the hype last season he was getting traded to the Crows. Id be surprised if Yeo played beyond 2026. Hall and Bo Allen are young and will need time.

The midfield is the worst I have ever seen. You could make a case – it is the worst midfield in the comp.

Eagles need to cash in on the currency now, Trade Oscar Allen and Harley Reid, get 3 to 4 first round picks and potentially look to do what a Richmond are doing now and rebuild again. With Tasmania coming in, in under 3 years, the decisions made by the Eagles at the top hierarchy has the potential to make or break this club, for the next 3 to 10 years.

On top of that, they will most likely get picks 1 or 2 and pick 19 or 20 in the next draft. So thats 5 picks in the first 20 and go from there. My projection is that Hawthorns first pick (received from Carlton)- could be a Top 8 pick.
 
briztoon said:
Tom Lynch from GC to Richmond.
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and Steven May to Melbourne.

In the same season if I remember right.

The lesson being careful about who you appoint captain - especially if you don’t have the trust in them to be a solo captain.

Oscar’s decision to play this out in the media with Sam Mitchell is a disgrace and reflects poorly on all involved.

Even if he does stay, he can’t remain as skipper next year - that bird has flown. Just like retaining Barrass as a VC last year was pathetic after he had tried to bail on the club to Sydney.

Don’t get me wrong here, the club has every right to hold out on giving him a massive contract - he’s deluded if he thinks he should just be handed one by WCE based on his 1 good season between injuries.

If Hawthorn or whoever are offering him big money then let him go, take the compo and let him be a cautionary tale for the future.

Oh and **** Will Schofield, for again being the mouthpiece for another contract negotiation via the media. I guess I’m old school but Allen should be above doing that crap as captain - it must be a really weak relationship with the club right now.
 
NYRB said:
On a serious note, is it possible the Eagles look to trade in for draft capital currency given Tasmania is coming in under 3 years time?


Quoted from Twitter:

Hawthorns Current Draft Capital:
Carlton’s 1st (currently pick 3)
Carlton’s 2nd (currently pick 21)
2026 Round 1
2027 Round 1 (can be traded this year)

They also have a group of talented players in the VFL that would likely be in the Eagles “Best 22” now who can potentially be offered up in a trade if required.

Max Ramsden
Henry Hustwaite
Jai Serong
Ned Reeves
Seamus Mitchell
James Blanck (when fit)
Sam Butler (when fit)


Im thinking the Eagles need to go for a full rebuild again. Harley Reid might not be interested long-term , although I don't think he has done too much wrong on the field. But nothing seems set in stone right now with him. Im not sure if we see Harley at his best in a blue and gold.

Its a C-grade midfield at best. West Coast paid overs to lure Tim Kelly back from Geelong and frankly his best is past him. Kelly has also admitted he has a lost of love for the game. Duggan is nothing more than a make-shift midfielder compared to the other mids in the comp. Duggan doesn't get enough hard ball/contested possessions and Eagles lack a proper 'inside mid' or two. Baker and Graham were McQualter carry ons from his time at Richmond. Yeo is banged up and injured and I never bought into the hype last season he was getting traded to the Crows. Id be surprised if Yeo played beyond 2026. Hall and Bo Allen are young and will need time.

The midfield is the worst I have ever seen. You could make a case – it is the worst midfield in the comp.

Eagles need to cash in on the currency now, Trade Oscar Allen and Harley Reid, get 3 to 4 first round picks and potentially look to do what a Richmond are doing now and rebuild again. With Tasmania coming in, in under 3 years, the decisions made by the Eagles at the top hierarchy has the potential to make or break this club, for the next 3 to 10 years.

On top of that, they will most likely get picks 1 or 2 and pick 19 or 20 in the next draft. So thats 5 picks in the first 20 and go from there. My projection is that Hawthorns first pick (received from Carlton)- could be a Top 8 pick.
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It’s from Jon Ralph’s article.

If Carlton’s picks stay there and Harley wants out, it’s possible.

Blues say move to 9th (more likely scenario) I doubt it. Could be band 1 compos and Academy and FS in there. Pick 10 turns into pick 15 quickly and pick 28 into to 40s and will just be eaten up likely by our NGA meeting.

Hawthorns Current Draft Capital:
Carlton’s 1st (currently pick 3) - more likely 15*
Carlton’s 2nd (currently pick 21) more likely late 40s
2026 Round 1 - projected to be in the late 20s.
2027 Round 1 (can be traded this year) 40s pick?

Picks 15, 45, 28, 45 and fringe players would not move the needle to trade him a year earlier.

Harley more likely to be at the Bombers if he’s not at the Eagles.

I’d also highly doubt Connors stable and Harley would do that to the Eagles while contracted unless there was a huge falling out. They would pick a team they know who can get the deal done without question.
 
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Patterz123 said:
It's a terrible look for not only Oscar, but as a club too. We are made to appear weak and vulnerable.

The flow on effect is huge, not only for player retention, but also recruitment.

We've become such a soft club since the Covid hub.
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The problem with Garry is that he was loyal to his club and never got success.

Imagine being a club captain of a bottom-dweller, looking at blokes like Dyson Heppell and Zach Merrett never even play in a winning final, being lauded for their 'loyalty' but ultimately, achieving absolutely nothing in their career?

From Oscar's perspective, this decision will ultimately determine whether he has a shot at being a premiership player, or having his career go the way of blokes like Heppell & Merrett.

Most who make it to the AFL are ultra-competitive, so knowing you're signing your last contract and likely to spend nearly all of it rebuilding, wouldn't be particularly appealing to stay I'd imagine.
 

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Hawks first pick (via Carlton projected for me to be a Top 8 pick since the Blues are playing garbage footy at the moment), and one of and Hawks 1st pick in the 2026 draft/Hawks first selection in the 2nd round 2025 (which is in the high 20s) to get the deal done for the Big O ? Thats the probably the one missing piece for the Hawks that true full forward position. Mabior Chol is a bit hit and miss. If you can get two beasts in that forward line to help their crumbers and small forwards in : Dylan Moore, The Wizard Watson and Ginnivan, its a fairly scary attack.

With Gunston and Breust probably unlikely to go again in 2026, do feel like the Hawks are chasing that missing jigsaw piece, in a very strong team all over the board. Hence, why Mitchell who is very astute at getting what he wants -players at the top of their game still eg D'Ambrosio, Barrass, Josh Battle, Mabior Chol

Im sure most Eagles fans could accept that and for the ones that would refuse that, they are highly hopeful that Oscar will turn it around.
 
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Hawks links to Harley dumb and irrelevant given that link was only brought up as speculation. Given how worthless their future picks would be considered there would be at least 4-5 Vic clubs who could put forward better options. If Carlton end up with the spoon this year then we can talk then.
 
pantskyle said:
I would have thought it was leaked by Allen's manager to put pressure on the eagles to increase our offer.
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Could be - but surely that could be a conversation/message behind closed doors between McDougal and Clarke?

Airing it in public damages Allen's reputation/leadership more. Especially when he's hardly putting up exemplary performances.
 
NYRB said:
On a serious note, is it possible the Eagles look to trade in for draft capital currency given Tasmania is coming in under 3 years time?


Quoted from Twitter (@BradKlibansky)
:

Hawthorns Current Draft Capital:
Carlton’s 1st (currently pick 3)
Carlton’s 2nd (currently pick 21)
2026 Round 1
2027 Round 1 (can be traded this year)

They also have a group of talented players in the VFL that would likely be in the Eagles “Best 22” now who can potentially be offered up in a trade if required.

Max Ramsden
Henry Hustwaite
Jai Serong
Ned Reeves
Seamus Mitchell
James Blanck (when fit)
Sam Butler (when fit)


Im thinking the Eagles need to go for a full rebuild again. Harley Reid might not be interested long-term , although I don't think he has done too much wrong on the field. But nothing seems set in stone right now with him. Im not sure if we see Harley at his best in a blue and gold.

Its a C-grade midfield at best. West Coast paid overs to lure Tim Kelly back from Geelong and frankly his best is past him. Kelly has also admitted he has a lost of love for the game. Duggan is nothing more than a make-shift midfielder compared to the other mids in the comp. Duggan doesn't get enough hard ball/contested possessions and Eagles lack a proper 'inside mid' or two. Baker and Graham were McQualter carry ons from his time at Richmond. Yeo is banged up and injured and I never bought into the hype last season he was getting traded to the Crows. Id be surprised if Yeo played beyond 2026. Hall and Bo Allen are young and will need time.

The midfield is the worst I have ever seen. You could make a case – it is the worst midfield in the comp.

Eagles need to cash in on the currency now, Trade Oscar Allen and Harley Reid, get 3 to 4 first round picks and potentially look to do what a Richmond are doing now and rebuild again. With Tasmania coming in, in under 3 years, the decisions made by the Eagles at the top hierarchy has the potential to make or break this club, for the next 3 to 10 years.

On top of that, they will most likely get picks 1 or 2 and pick 19 or 20 in the next draft. So thats 5 picks in the first 20 and go from there. My projection is that Hawthorns first pick (received from Carlton)- could be a Top 8 pick.
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Yep.

I wasn't joking.

We need to do this this year not next year.
We will delay our rebuild by 5 years if we wait until the 27 draft and Reid leaves

Bite the bullet. Trade our all 3 and get as many top end picks this year before tassy is in.
 
Altum Volantes said:
Oh and **** Will Schofield, for again being the mouthpiece for another contract negotiation via the media. I guess I’m old school but Allen should be above doing that crap as captain - it must be a really weak relationship with the club right now.
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I also let scumfield have it, eagerly waiting his reply
 
Smotie2 said:
Yep.

I wasn't joking.

We need to do this this year not next year.
We will delay our rebuild by 5 years if we wait until the 27 draft and Reid leaves

Bite the bullet. Trade our all 3 and get as many top end picks this year before tassy is in.
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I said ward hsutwaite and carltons first as a start
 
You know what I want? Some ****ing pride and mongrel in this club. Bring back the Woosha days of just running through blokes.

I think Oscar will get some honest feedback from his teammates this week similar to how GC players told Tom Lynch to **** off if he's not committed.

Either Waterman or Baker should be captain next year, if not now, with the other the vice-captain.

I think the Warners - while talented, offer even more via their FIGJAM attitude and competitive natures.

Clear out the fair weather, sulky, woe-is-me type guys like Allen, Kelly and Barrass etc.

This is why I want Harley to stay. He wants to win and gets pissed off with shit effort. Pair him up with Hewett & Chad and you have the makings of a midfield full of swagger kicking to Waterman and Shanahan clunking everything.
 
NYRB said:
Hawks first pick (via Carlton projected for me to be a Top 8 pick since the Blues are playing garbage footy at the moment), and Hawks 1st pick in the 2026 draft to get the deal done for the Big O ? Thats the probably the one missing piece for the Hawks that true full forward position. Mabior Chol is a bit hit and miss. With Gunston and Breust probably unlikely to go again in 2026, do feel like the Hawks are chancing that missing jigsaw piece, in a very strong team all over the board.

Im sure most Eagles fans could accept that.
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Would rather the legitimately high compo pick so we can split it and draft 2 half backs.
 
Altum Volantes said:
and Steven May to Melbourne.

In the same season if I remember right.
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There’s a lot of stories about this whole saga. The club, not the players, appointed May and Lynch as co-captains, hoping it would help them stay.

At the end of the season, when both players told the playing group they were going, Ben Ainsworth took a shot at May, and had to be held back by others in the playing group.

May had already burnt his bridges with the wags a couple of weeks earlier, and copped a barrage of abuse on twitter.
Altum Volantes said:
The lesson being careful about who you appoint captain - especially if you don’t have the trust in them to be a solo captain.

Oscar’s decision to play this out in the media with Sam Mitchell is a disgrace and reflects poorly on all involved.

Even if he does stay, he can’t remain as skipper next year - that bird has flown. Just like retaining Barrass as a VC last year was pathetic after he had tried to bail on the club to Sydney.

Don’t get me wrong here, the club has every right to hold out on giving him a massive contract - he’s deluded if he thinks he should just be handed one by WCE based on his 1 good season between injuries.

If Hawthorn or whoever are offering him big money then let him go, take the compo and let him be a cautionary tale for the future.

Oh and **** Will Schofield, for again being the mouthpiece for another contract negotiation via the media. I guess I’m old school but Allen should be above doing that crap as captain - it must be a really weak relationship with the club right now.
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bzparkes said:
The problem with Garry is that he was loyal to his club and never got success.

Imagine being a club captain of a bottom-dweller, looking at blokes like Dyson Heppell and Zach Merrett never even play in a winning final, being lauded for their 'loyalty' but ultimately, achieving absolutely nothing in their career?

From Oscar's perspective, this decision will ultimately determine whether he has a shot at being a premiership player, or having his career go the way of blokes like Heppell & Merrett.

Most who make it to the AFL are ultra-competitive, so knowing you're signing your last contract and likely to spend nearly all of it rebuilding, wouldn't be particularly appealing to stay I'd imagine.
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Id rather be liked then successful when it comes to sports .

Kevin Durant a good example. If he stayed and won a chip with OKC he would be 10x the player he is in history. He went elsewhere, won and looked weak for it. He hasn't made a mark on the game or any club he has been at. Just a irrelevant footnote as opposed to w club legend .

He can have a ring. Id rather have my jersey hung up from the rafters then a ring .
 
NYRB said:
Hawks first pick (via Carlton projected for me to be a Top 8 pick since the Blues are playing garbage footy at the moment), and Hawks 1st pick in the 2026 draft to get the deal done for the Big O ? Thats the probably the one missing piece for the Hawks that true full forward position. Mabior Chol is a bit hit and miss. If you can get two beasts in that forward line to help their crumbers and small forwards in : Dylan Moore, The Wizard Watson and Ginnivan, its a fairly scary attack.

With Gunston and Breust probably unlikely to go again in 2026, do feel like the Hawks are chasing that missing jigsaw piece, in a very strong team all over the board. Hence, why Mitchell who is very astute at getting what he wants -players at the top of their game still eg D'Ambrosio, Barrass, Josh Battle, Mabior Chol

Im sure most Eagles fans could accept that and for the ones that would refuse that, they are highly hopeful that Oscar will turn it around.
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Oscar is a FA. They don’t have to trade anything

You forgot to mentioned the ones he missed and was a perfect sliding doors moment for them Ben McKay and Ratugolea.
 

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