List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Barrybran]

A part of me thinks lets just get this over and done with and give Ned Moyle a 7 year 7 mill deal or something insane.

Yes, let's pay a ruckman $1m / year. Ask Freo how that's going.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Yes, let's pay a ruckman $1m / year. Ask Freo how that's going.

Better then how its going for us?

The saying goes its our achilles heel. I think this is our amputated foot when it comes to issues we have. Gotta simply put everything we have to get this fixed in the off season. Enough is enough

 

[Barrybran]

Better then how its going for us?

The saying goes its our achilles heel. I think this is our amputated foot when it comes to issues we have. Gotta simply put everything we have to get this fixed in the off season. Enough is enough

A ruckman isn't going to help us yet. Now if you can find us a time machine...

 

[eaglevision]

Pretty much. Use our leverage on being able to bid on their 2 academy picks to eke out a good deal.

*3 academy picks. And that’s just the top 10.

We don’t need to pay him 7 million over 7 years but if we can convince Ned to head over then we can get a deal done with GCS that suits both clubs well.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Better then how its going for us?

The saying goes its our achilles heel. I think this is our amputated foot when it comes to issues we have. Gotta simply put everything we have to get this fixed in the off season. Enough is enough

I thought Flynn was impressive today - moreso around the ground than in the ruck. Could be our lycett if we got another gun ruck in.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

This is what has also crept into the AFL.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

A ruckman isn't going to help us yet. Now if you can find us a time machine...

Its the easiest hole to fix in a way.. We need 1 man to fix that issue. We need 5 to fix a midfield one. We got the money to spend and notoriously ruckmen are easier to get from other clubs then any other spot. Give Moyle big money and he can decide.

Apart from Moyle, id be tempted to overoffer for Draper and Cameron.

 

[Barrybran]

I thought Flynn was impressive today - moreso around the ground than in the ruck. Could be our lycett if we got another gun ruck in.

Except we don't need that. Williams/Reid can handle that responsibility.

 

[Cuzz09]

This is what has also crept into the AFL.

true.

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[Barrybran]

Its the easiest hole to fix in a way.. We need 1 man to fix that issue. We need 5 to fix a midfield one. We got the money to spend and notoriously ruckmen are easier to get from other clubs then any other spot. Give Moyle big money and he can decide.

Apart from Moyle, id be tempted to overoffer for Draper and Cameron.

I agree that ruck is the easiest hole to fill but it's the last hole to fill. There's little to gain by throwing big money at a ruckman, making us slightly more competitive, and tying up cash that can be used on your genuine A graders. If Warner was coming our way, we'd absolutely do this. But he's not, so a little patience is required. Get the kids in the door, get them in the gym and playing games, and THEN we can go out and find the best ruckman available. In the meantime, we might have even drafted that player for nothing.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I agree that ruck is the easiest hole to fill but it's the last hole to fill. There's little to gain by throwing big money at a ruckman, making us slightly more competitive, and tying up cash that can be used on your genuine A graders. If Warner was coming our way, we'd absolutely do this. But he's not, so a little patience is required. Get the kids in the door, get them in the gym and playing games, and THEN we can go out and find the best ruckman available. In the meantime, we might have even drafted that player for nothing.

Any ruck we draft this year won’t be ready for another 3 years… do we want Reid and Hewett playing without a AFL quality ruck for another 3 years ? That money needs to be spent somewhere when it’s all said and dine. History shows ruck is an easy place to spend it. Ruck is a giant issue we have.

Let’s get off our asses and make a move.

 

[UseR2006]

I agree that ruck is the easiest hole to fill but it's the last hole to fill. There's little to gain by throwing big money at a ruckman, making us slightly more competitive, and tying up cash that can be used on your genuine A graders. If Warner was coming our way, we'd absolutely do this. But he's not, so a little patience is required. Get the kids in the door, get them in the gym and playing games, and THEN we can go out and find the best ruckman available. In the meantime, we might have even drafted that player for nothing.

I'd argue that getting a youngerish ruck now (not a fresh draftee but 22-26 yr Ruck) would be good to grow with the mids we have now and pick up going forward so once they hit prime they already know each others games really well.
Getting a ruck super late does make it harder for that cohesion between ruck and mid.

I don't think we should draft one.

I'd hope we look at one this year or next year. BW, Flynn, Barnett, Livingstone and Jamieson are not the answer.

 

[Barrybran]

Any ruck we draft this year won’t be ready for another 3 years… do we want Reid and Hewett playing without a AFL quality ruck for another 3 years ? That money needs to be spent somewhere when it’s all said and dine. History shows ruck is an easy place to spend it. Ruck is a giant issue we have.

Let’s get off our asses and make a move.

No, let's not. Reid, Ginbey, Hewett, Hutchinson, J.Williams, Johnston, Shanahan, Grego, Long, Maric, Dewar and Gross are ALL out of contract over the next two years and will command more money than their current rookie contracts. If we have cash left over after Kelly, Sheed, Hunt, Cripps, McGovern, Yeo, Petrucelle, Ryan and Allen come off the books, sure, let's spend some money. Chances are we're going to have to front end some contracts to have space to throw money at players to round out our list when the kids are hitting the 100-game mark in the next 3-5 years.

Flynn sucks, sure, but unless we can get Darcy Cameron I wouldn't stress about it. Buy the right guy at the right price. Don't reach for someone prematurely.

 

[Barrybran]

I'd argue that getting a youngerish ruck now (not a fresh draftee but 22-26 yr Ruck) would be good to grow with the mids we have now and pick up going forward so once they hit prime they already know each others games really well.
Getting a ruck super late does make it harder for that cohesion between ruck and mid.

I don't think we should draft one.

I'd hope we look at one this year or next year. BW, Flynn, Barnett, Livingstone and Jamieson are not the answer.

Getting a young ruck and paying $1m for Ned Moyle are two different things. Making a move for Jordon Sweet last year would have been ideal. Making a move for Ned Moyle this year would be good, but not at $1m / year. That's reckless.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Just grab the next one off the merry go round. Reeves or Ramsden or Pittonet (if TDK stays) or Heath or Madden.

 

[WCE777]

*3 academy picks. And that’s just the top 10.

We don’t need to pay him 7 million over 7 years but if we can convince Ned to head over then we can get a deal done with GCS that suits both clubs well.

This might be a good strategy.

 

[WCE777]

Its the easiest hole to fix in a way.. We need 1 man to fix that issue. We need 5 to fix a midfield one. We got the money to spend and notoriously ruckmen are easier to get from other clubs then any other spot. Give Moyle big money and he can decide.

Apart from Moyle, id be tempted to overoffer for Draper and Cameron.

Moyle and Cameron are the 2 options imo.
If we want a decent ruck long term Moyle is the answer, 23 and AFL ready and our midfield can grow with a decent ruck who can actually tap and grow.
Cameron is the 3-4 year option who would be an upgrade on any we have, this strategy would be ideal if WC think we have our next ruck longer term on the list, A Reid and it would need to happen soon as he is will be 30 this year.
You don't pay ruckman $1m a year unless they are prime Nic Nat.

 

[Godfather32]

Just grab the next one off the merry go round. Reeves or Ramsden or Pittonet (if TDK stays) or Heath or Madden.

Everyone keeps on saying this....but as a counterpoint I would say that probably 7 out of our last 8 decent ruckmen were drafted by us.
Nic Nat, Cox, Lycett, Gardiner, Sinclair, Seaby, Turnball.
Vardy arguably the only decent ruckman this century who we didn't draft and lets face it he had maybe 1 and a half good seasons with us.

 

[The Gtrain]

true.

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It's an interesting video, makes me think about Reid. The guy is guaranteed a contract anywhere at top dollar, why would he grind away when he can get the rockstar treatment elsewhere, He is used to winning, he kicked 100+ goals (maybe a couple of times) as a junior, his brain will be struggling with this level of loss.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Everyone keeps on saying this....but as a counterpoint I would say that probably 7 out of our last 8 decent ruckmen were drafted by us.
Nic Nat, Cox, Lycett, Gardiner, Sinclair, Seaby, Turnball.
Vardy arguably the only decent ruckman this century who we didn't draft and lets face it he had maybe 1 and a half good seasons with us.

Counterpoint to your counterpoint, the most recent of those was Sinclair in 2012 and since then we’ve had a fair few misses e.g. Williams, Jamieson and Barnett. Maybe the magic has worn off.

Other clubs have had success picking off rucks who weren’t getting games at their clubs - Cameron (Sydney to Collingwood), Nankervis (Sydney to Richmond), Meek (Freo to Hawthorn), Sweet (Bulldogs to Port).

 

[Godfather32]

Counterpoint to your counterpoint, the most recent of those was Sinclair in 2012 and since then we’ve had a fair few misses e.g. Williams, Jamieson and Barnett. Maybe the magic has worn off.

Other clubs have had success picking off rucks who weren’t getting games at their clubs - Cameron (Sydney to Collingwood), Nankervis (Sydney to Richmond), Meek (Freo to Hawthorn), Sweet (Bulldogs to Port).

Counterpoint to your counterpoint to my counterpoint, most of our drafting was shit during the Simpson era.
To go with those terrible ruckmen we've also picked up plenty of terrible midfielders, defenders and forwards since 2012

 

[Byron_Clanger]

It's an interesting video, makes me think about Reid. The guy is guaranteed a contract anywhere at top dollar, why would he grind away when he can get the rockstar treatment elsewhere, He is used to winning, he kicked 100+ goals (maybe a couple of times) as a junior, his brain will be struggling with this level of loss.

I'm fully expecting a trade request at the end of the year simply because any time I hear him having a sponsors paid for interview he says "I" want to win not I want to help my team win, always I. He wants to win, he isn't gonna win much here and he knows he's got guaranteed money back home so he might as well show up to pre-season fat and coast through whatever time he's required to be here for.

JHF paved the way now for high rated picks to go for the 'microwave easy' career of going to a good team right now instead of doing a Sheezel and fighting and scrapping your way like it used to be.

 

[Mr Q]

Everyone keeps on saying this....but as a counterpoint I would say that probably 7 out of our last 8 decent ruckmen were drafted by us.
Nic Nat, Cox, Lycett, Gardiner, Sinclair, Seaby, Turnball.
Vardy arguably the only decent ruckman this century who we didn't draft and lets face it he had maybe 1 and a half good seasons with us.

I'd counter with trading in Tom Hickey - we didn't really get the best of him, but he was a more than reasonable ruckman at Sydney after we traded him back out. If you're going to include Sinclair, then Hickey would be a fair call too.

 

[Godfather32]

I'd counter with trading in Tom Hickey - we didn't really get the best of him, but he was a more than reasonable ruckman at Sydney after we traded him back out. If you're going to include Sinclair, then Hickey would be a fair call too.

Barely remember him playing for us to be honest

 

[Priddis Is Done]

This is good news. Sharp + Rodriguez, please.

We had a great day