List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[tmpies01]

Jon Ralph is frothing this. Pumping out negative tweet after negative tweet.

Let this be over already.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Atkins is on 400k for 1 more year, that’s not a salary dump, I genuinely think Port thought they want some depth in the HB flank role. We’re happy to just let him see out his contract in the VFL

Likewise Port has signed Luko to a 6 year $6 Million contract. Even though they are taking $1mil a year off our books, they are paying him the same afterwards. That’s worth an F1

Our apologies for referring to Atkins as a salary dump and upsetting you. You’re right, he’s just a dump.

 

[No SPIN]

If Port really do screw this deal, do we just go for Barrass instead? Would be pretty handy pairing with Moore and Howe.

Definitely a big No. Barrass has got a chronic back injury. Hawks are mad trading for him IMO.

 

[MagpieJoel]

Can’t. Refer to one Brett Chalmers.

That was draft tampering. There is nothing preventing doing it for a trade. In fact, it happens all the time.

 

[Go Woods]

If Collingwood wasn’t involved it would’ve been done by now

Exactly what I was thinking.
Everyone wants to screw us over.

 

[Jen2310]

But on Monday night the Power were adamant the deal was insufficient and were threatening to trade Houston to North Melbourne, which have offered a future first-rounder as part of a deal.

The Power view is that having agreed to trade Houston back to Victoria they are not willing to accept a lesser Collingwood offer when the Roos deal is clearly of a higher quality.

The only wrinkle in accepting a Roos first-rounder for Houston is that the Power would prefer 2024 selections instead of future picks.
It remains to be seen if the Magpies and Suns can restructure aspects of the trade deal to resuscitate it but the Power believed they were being strong-armed by Houston’s camp to accept a lesser deal.

Gold Coast was on Monday night threatening to trade the No.13 draft pick to a rival party if the trade fell over given huge demand for that selection.

And the Houston camp was furious that a trade that had seemed over the line on Monday night now seemed to have flatlined.

As of Monday afternoon the prospective trade would have seen the Suns still keeping picks six and 23 to hand to the Tigers for Rioli, who finished second in the 2022 best-and-fairest by a single vote to Tom Lynch and won this year’s Jack Dyer Medal.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-hq/afl-trade-news-live-updates-and-news-from-day-8-of-the-afl-trade-period/live-coverage/74ad597ec58209dea9e91cbae99ba374

 

[Ugene41]

The smart thing to do tomorrow morning would be

Noble + F1

For

13 and 29.

Then field offers for 13 and get the absolute best return possible.

Whether it’s Sydney’s 19 and 22
Or norths future first.

Remember, port have something we have so we could potentially offer them 19 29 and Richard’s, Or do something with norths future first.

This makes no sense. Why would Port accept 19, 29 and Richards which is less than what they get as part of the 3 way for Houston.

Plus standalone, at best we get Pick 13 for F1 and Noble when North are offering their F1.

 

[CheckerTrade666]

And I thought the close games were stressful…. This stuff is next level.

At least a game only goes for a few hours, this rubbish has been going on for over a week now

 

[tmpies01]

Still feeling positive about this.

 

[adammania9]

Just like watching a Collingwood game

Is this the Carlton 2.0 game or the Sydney game?

 

[Masked Magician]

That’s exactly right, only issue is that Gold Coast are also doing this because they want to trade Jack to Port…so in theory if they aren’t contingent on one another then it’s the best approach.

Really not a fan of over paying or underselling because we are ‘in the window’ it seldom works out for us.

I understand that, but we can tell the suns, we are still interested to get involved in a trade between you and port (becuase we have a vested interest in getting Houston and also giving them Richard’s)

It just means it gives us 2 days to cash in on 13 and offer something different to port and strong arm them into accepting our deal or risk not getting Richard’s.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

But on Monday night the Power were adamant the deal was insufficient and were threatening to trade Houston to North Melbourne, which have offered a future first-rounder as part of a deal.

The Power view is that having agreed to trade Houston back to Victoria they are not willing to accept a lesser Collingwood offer when the Roos deal is clearly of a higher quality.

The only wrinkle in accepting a Roos first-rounder for Houston is that the Power would prefer 2024 selections instead of future picks.
It remains to be seen if the Magpies and Suns can restructure aspects of the trade deal to resuscitate it but the Power believed they were being strong-armed by Houston’s camp to accept a lesser deal.

Gold Coast was on Monday night threatening to trade the No.13 draft pick to a rival party if the trade fell over given huge demand for that selection.

And the Houston camp was furious that a trade that had seemed over the line on Monday night now seemed to have flatlined.

As of Monday afternoon the prospective trade would have seen the Suns still keeping picks six and 23 to hand to the Tigers for Rioli, who finished second in the 2022 best-and-fairest by a single vote to Tom Lynch and won this year’s Jack Dyer Medal.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-hq/afl-trade-news-live-updates-and-news-from-day-8-of-the-afl-trade-period/live-coverage/74ad597ec58209dea9e91cbae99ba374

Port have managed to piss everyone off, it seems.

 

[Masked Magician]

This makes no sense. Why would Port accept 19, 29 and Richards which is less than what they get as part of the 3 way for Houston.

Plus standalone, at best we get Pick 13 for F1 and Noble when North are offering their F1.

1. They don’t need to accept it. We have our deal take it or leave it.

2. Well then the suns risk not landing noble.

 

[TradeDraft]

But on Monday night the Power were adamant the deal was insufficient and were threatening to trade Houston to North Melbourne, which have offered a future first-rounder as part of a deal.

The Power view is that having agreed to trade Houston back to Victoria they are not willing to accept a lesser Collingwood offer when the Roos deal is clearly of a higher quality.

The only wrinkle in accepting a Roos first-rounder for Houston is that the Power would prefer 2024 selections instead of future picks.
It remains to be seen if the Magpies and Suns can restructure aspects of the trade deal to resuscitate it but the Power believed they were being strong-armed by Houston’s camp to accept a lesser deal.

Gold Coast was on Monday night threatening to trade the No.13 draft pick to a rival party if the trade fell over given huge demand for that selection.

And the Houston camp was furious that a trade that had seemed over the line on Monday night now seemed to have flatlined.

As of Monday afternoon the prospective trade would have seen the Suns still keeping picks six and 23 to hand to the Tigers for Rioli, who finished second in the 2022 best-and-fairest by a single vote to Tom Lynch and won this year’s Jack Dyer Medal.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-hq/afl-trade-news-live-updates-and-news-from-day-8-of-the-afl-trade-period/live-coverage/74ad597ec58209dea9e91cbae99ba374

Probably stay at Port

Port being Assholes to Houston's Camp

 

[tmpies01]

Port have managed to piss everyone off, it seems.

Houston would be furious with Port right now if what’s being said is true. Assumed he’d be a Pie tomorrow and now they pull out. If they don’t trade him to us it will not end well either way (going to North or staying at Port)

 

[Ugene41]

1. They don’t need to accept it. We have our deal take it or leave it.

2. Well then the suns risk not landing noble.

1. They've obviously left it.

2. Yea they'll probably walk away from Noble

 

[swoop42]

Hi it’s me the cocky GC supporter who posts here sometimes even though his team makes the dumbest trades.

You’re not gonna like this. It’s up to Collingwood to pay more for Houston, not us.

We can do:
13 for Norths F1
Luko for Port’s F1
29 for Noble (take it or leave it I guess)
6 for Rioli
23 + F2 for another teams F1

The only reason we aren’t doing that is A) Cameron is an idiot and B) you want Houston but don’t have the draft capital yourselves.

We might still bend over again because let’s face it it’s us, but really, you need to go find more trade capital (ie. Trade another player to Port or for a draft pick). If it was any team other than us involved that’s what you’d have to do.

First of all you have no idea of what NM actual deal for 13 is.

They might well be wanting more than 13 for a potential future top 3 selection. They'd be stupid not to given everything indicates Houston refuses to be traded there. This could not only complicate your deal for Rioli/Noble it would also reduce your points total just like the current situation.

Do the deal for Lukosius separately and do you think you'll be left holding Ports current 39 as well as a F1? They aren't giving you 39 for Atkins and if Houston looks like he might remain at Port they might not want Atkins at all. You'll be giving back something like 41 further eroding your points total with no 39 to speak of. Anyone with an ounce of sense knows that deep down GC want to have a player demanding so much salary off their books because the new coach doesn't rate him. Hopefully Port realise this before it's to late.

29 only got you Noble because 13 was available. If 13 is no longer available then 29 is unders and I suspect it'll be rejected for a contracted best 23 player. You'll be paying 23 at a minumum or adding 41 or a F2 to 29 to land him. If we don't get Houston then our desire to keep Noble only increases.

Every report indicates pick 6 and 23 will be going for Rioli. If it doesn't it means 23 has gone as part of the proposed deal for Houston and Richmond will have to accept 29 instead.

Not sure what universe you live in when you now think 23 + F2 can be turned into a F1. 23 is going one way or another.

Thanks for playing.

 

[partypie]

Port want more by tommorow night or Good Chance Houston be at North

They can't force him to go to North Dave, so you can ignore the crap the media is spinning about that mate because it just won't happen.

 

[mumblingpie]

Nick Stevens anyone

 

[adammania9]

Surprised Jakob Ryan’s name didn’t really come up. Happy to get Houston and continue to develop Ryan (wing probably his best bet) but I’d have thought his name might have come up for Port. Has more scope than Atkins who already isn’t good enough to be best 23 at 30 years old.

 

[TradeDraft]

Houston would be furious with Port right now if what’s being said is true. Assumed he’d be a Pie tomorrow and now they pull out. If they don’t trade him to us it will not end well either way (going to North or staying at Port)

Port wants to Accepts North's Offer

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Houston would be furious with Port right now if what’s being said is true. Assumed he’d be a Pie tomorrow and now they pull out. If they don’t trade him to us it will not end well either way (going to North or staying at Port)

They are reporting the Houston camp is furious having thought this deal was done tonight.

 

[TradeDraft]

They are reporting the Houston camp is furious having thought this deal was done tonight.

He should say don't trade me to Collingwood and I am not coming back to the Club

Go down to Final 10 Minutes of Trade Period

 

[HoraceStrasbork]

Hi it’s me the cocky GC supporter who posts here sometimes even though his team makes the dumbest trades.

You’re not gonna like this. It’s up to Collingwood to pay more for Houston, not us.

We can do:
13 for Norths F1
Luko for Port’s F1
29 for Noble (take it or leave it I guess)
6 for Rioli
23 + F2 for another teams F1

The only reason we aren’t doing that is A) Cameron is an idiot and B) you want Houston but don’t have the draft capital yourselves.

We might still bend over again because let’s face it it’s us, but really, you need to go find more trade capital (ie. Trade another player to Port or for a draft pick). If it was any team other than us involved that’s what you’d have to do.

 

[tmpies01]

I honestly didn’t expect the 3 way deal to even happen like it did today and the specifics of the deal certainly weren’t how the media originally made it sound so I’m not trusting this overreaction tonight.