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Silky23 said:
Yeah spot on. Also not sure if anyone watched the dogs swans game on friday night but Treloar was playing in the backline. Bevo moving the magnets. Few dogs supporters saying adsy is well and truly cooked.
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to be fair to Treloar he has been on the wing for most of the year and Beveridge has fascination with playing guys out of position. That said he has been ok but not a star for them.
 
Jafo said:
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Rockcliff chimes in
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We've been over this a bit. Rockliff provides nothing of substance, listing nameless "sources", and his info is all over the shop - according to him, Collingwood may or may not be paying 1/4-1/2 of Grundy's salary to play elsewhere.
 
gouki88 said:
Except there is nothing to indicate that at all. Grundy was even better at the same age in 2015. Better in ruck contests, took more marks, laid more tackles, got more of the footy, gathered more clearances. His disposal efficiency was worse (he was kicking it much more than Jackson), and Jackson kicks 0.15 more goals per game than Grundy did in 2015.

So please, tell me where this incredible development is coming from? Jackson is a mediocre ruck in the sense of ruck contests, doesn't take many marks, and doesn't kick many goals.


I mean, he played okay in the Grand Final I guess. A few good tackles and some hitouts. But it was hardly some epic performance.
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only Gawn deserves massive money and paying Jackson on a few handy games is ridiculous.

Darcy is 24yo and led Freo to 4th on the ladder. He likely gets 500 - 600k a year and is better value.
 

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gouki88 said:
We've been over this a bit. Rockliff provides nothing of substance, listing nameless "sources", and his info is all over the shop - according to him, Collingwood may or may not be paying 1/4-1/2 of Grundy's salary to play elsewhere.
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is Rockliff lighting the fire on behalf of Port?
 
TW Sherrin said:
only Gawn deserves massive money and paying Jackson on a few handy games is ridiculous.

Darcy is 24yo and led Freo to 4th on the ladder. He likely gets 500 - 600k a year and is better value.
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Darcy is a star and should age well given his game is based on tapwork and strength.

TW Sherrin said:
is Rockliff lighting the fire on behalf of Port?
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Perhaps, it's hard to tell. Not sure if Port would want him to try and have one last crack with their ageing list.
 
Do_Beta_Rapport said:
I wasnt talking about the specific players more so the ‘way’ in which it was handled.

Mismanagement of a salary cap, Beams deal, public nature of it, the way Treloar was dealt with etc etc.

No, Guy nor the club deserve an apology.

Yes, the selections and players we ended up with vs output of those that left could end up being a win (at the moment I would say it is)
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The way the Treloar situation was handled was nothing short of deplorable. Incredibly disrespectful to Adam and I feel for the guy.

Phillips was handled professionally and maturely.

I don't know if there's a whole lot of info around about how Stephenson was handled - my understanding is essentially the rumours were allowed to fester until Stevo called Buckley to ask what was going on and Buckley said to find a new home. That's a pretty cold way to handle things but didn't have the gaslighting and innuendo attached to the Treloar trade.

Bosenavulagi was a non-issue. He was out of contract, we hadn't offered him one. He was probably going to be delisted.

But in terms of whether the trades themselves were uncalled for - probably not.

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Collingwood will attempt to reap the rewards of its controversial 2020 trade period clean-out when it targets multiple new players in this year’s exchange period.
The Magpies are shaping up as one of the biggest players in October with the rejuvenated Magpies eyeing Brisbane swingman Dan McStay and GWS Giants’ speedster Bobby Hill.

Last year’s trade period was lambasted for the lack of player movement, this year’s annual exchange is shaping up as an extravaganza with clubs making moves for Luke Jackson (Melbourne), Tim Taranto (GWS), Rory Lobb (Fremantle), Karl Amon (Port Adelaide) Tanner Bruhn (GWS), Matt Crouch (Adelaide), Aaron Francis (Essendon) and Paddy Dow (Carlton).

The Dockers are prepared to make a big-money offer to return Jackson home to Western Australia, while the Bulldogs are eyeing Lobb, the Cats want a midfielder such as Bruhn, and GWS are fighting to keep Taranto from joining Richmond or St Kilda.


Collingwood has also re-emerged as an appealing destination club for recruiting targets after soaring up the ladder in McRae’s first year in charge, chalking up its seventh-straight win of the season on Saturday over North Melbourne to sit fifth late on Sunday.

The Magpies have salary cap room to further bolster their list after making bold calls to cut star ball winner Adam Treloar and goal kicker Jaidyn Stephenson two years ago despite fierce fan backlash.


McStay, who can play at both ends, would provide another strong-marking target in the same vein as Brody Mihocek, while Hill could be picked up for a late pick and add some speed and polish in the forward half.


But there could be more shocks in store with ace ruckman Brodie Grundy linked to a move to Port Adelaide or GWS and Jordan De Goey’s contract talks put on hold after playing up in Bali.
Former Power and Lions’ midfielder Tom Rockliff said Grundy, who signed a $950,000-a-year deal to stay at the Magpies, “will not be at Collingwood next year” as the club was “happy to part ways”.

At Port Adelaide Grundy, 28, could replace Scott Lycett using some of the money from Amon’s departure.

Dual All-Australian Grundy, who is from South Australia, has five more years to run on his blockbuster contract, meaning Collingwood would almost certainly have to pay some of his wage if he departed.
But Collingwood has not told Grundy to start searching for a new club as the star ruckman prepares to make his return from a knee injury in the final few weeks of the season.

In his absence twin towers Darcy Cameron and Mason Cox have flourished this season, while young 197cm tall Aiden Begg also broke through for senior action this year.

Collingwood coach McRae said he was unsure how he would structure the spine when Grundy was available after going down with a serious posterior cruciate ligament injury against Essendon in Round 6.

Cameron said he was happy to sacrifice his own game when Grundy returned.

“He’s obviously a great ruckman and if that means me going back to a forward role or whatever it may look like, I’m happy just to play my role in the team,” Cameron said on Triple M.

“We will let the coaches deal with that in a few weeks’ time.”

The Cats also have room to bolster their midfield for next season after moving into a $4 second favourite for the flag with a comfortable win over Melbourne on Thursday night.

Geelong could swoop on local product Bruhn or Melbourne free agent Angus Brayshaw.
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DopeMaster said:
What does the article say?
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AFL Moneyball 2022: All the latest in trades, free agency and player contracts​

Off the back of seven straight wins, power club Collingwood is fast-emerging as a fancied free agent destination — and the Pies have a huge war chest to play with.

Jay Clark, Jon Ralph, Marc McGowan and Glenn McFarlane

11 min read
July 10, 2022 - 6:05PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/.../5329698bcfa2646bfecc2ffc274d1081#share-tools

Collingwood will attempt to reap the rewards of its controversial 2020 trade period clean-out when it targets multiple new players in this year’s exchange period.

The Magpies are shaping up as one of the biggest players in October with the rejuvenated Magpies eyeing Brisbane swingman Dan McStay and GWS Giants’ speedster Bobby Hill.
Last year’s trade period was lambasted for the lack of player movement, this year’s annual exchange is shaping up as an extravaganza with clubs making moves for Luke Jackson (Melbourne), Tim Taranto (GWS), Rory Lobb (Fremantle), Karl Amon (Port Adelaide) Tanner Bruhn (GWS), Matt Crouch (Adelaide), Aaron Francis (Essendon) and Paddy Dow (Carlton).
The Dockers are prepared to make a big-money offer to return Jackson home to Western Australia, while the Bulldogs are eyeing Lobb, the Cats want a midfielder such as Bruhn, and GWS are fighting to keep Taranto from joining Richmond or St Kilda.

Brisbane big forward Daniel McStay looks set to join the Pies. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images
Collingwood has also re-emerged as an appealing destination club for recruiting targets after soaring up the ladder in McRae’s first year in charge, chalking up its seventh-straight win of the season on Saturday over North Melbourne to sit fifth late on Sunday.
The Magpies have salary cap room to further bolster their list after making bold calls to cut star ball winner Adam Treloar and goal kicker Jaidyn Stephenson two years ago despite fierce fan backlash.
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McStay, who can play at both ends, would provide another strong-marking target in the same vein as Brody Mihocek, while Hill could be picked up for a late pick and add some speed and polish in the forward half.

Bobby Hill would add speed to the Pies’ midfield. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images
But there could be more shocks in store with ace ruckman Brodie Grundy linked to a move to Port Adelaide or GWS and Jordan De Goey’s contract talks put on hold after playing up in Bali.
 
JuniorB said:
It's a bit weird how all of a sudden, we have a "huge war chest".
I seem to recall that Wrighty said a few months back that we still had some lingering salary cap issues.
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Believe that was in 2021 he said that
 
South of the Yarra said:
I remember people laughing when we recruited Leigh Brown
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I suppose. McStay I can at least understand, given he's big and perfectly happy to play both ends.

Hill, however, is just not someone I would bother with at all. I'd rather a pick in the 40s than him.
 
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