Can Port win a premiership under Ken Hinkley?

[jdeezy]

I never saw their fans throw in the towel like all you Port babies, or slag off their coaches like Daniher and Eade... guys who couldn't ultimately deliver a flag, but (like Hinkley) were competent coaches who got their teams within striking distance on multiple occasions

Yes they did you clown, those coaches reached a point in time where the supporter base (and all the other stakeholders) realised they wouldn't lead their team to a flag, and got fed up and they got moved on to try something new. Obviously at some point for both of those cases it paid off with a premiership too.

We're in unprecedented territory because no other team has been dumb enough to keep banging their head against a wall when something hasn't worked for this long.

Wanting your team to not be average for eternity isn't being a bad supporter. What a joke.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Very good call on Port fans being the worst in the comp.
Very ungrateful for the many years of finals footy.

 

[Back One Out]

Look you imbecile it's not about throwing in the towel it's about moving people on that are not capable of achieving what every club wants.

The body of evidence says a resounding NO to Hinkley and has for a number of years.

You're the flog

I didn't read anything else you posted.

You're a big zero.

Find yourself another sport where everyone wins a prize.

 

[Back One Out]

Yes they did you clown, those coaches reached a point in time where the supporter base (and all the other stakeholders) realised they wouldn't lead their team to a flag, and got fed up and they got moved on to try something new. Obviously at some point for both of those cases it paid off with a premiership too.

We're in unprecedented territory because no other team has been dumb enough to keep banging their head against a wall when something hasn't worked for this long.

Wanting your team to not be average for eternity isn't being a bad supporter. What a joke.

You're the clown

I didn't read anything else you posted.

You're a big zero.

Find yourself another sport where everyone wins a prize.

 

[JimmyBC]

Two supporters from clubs that have won multiple premierships in their lifetime including recent dynasties telling us to suck it up & finals are good enough.. you'd have sacked and forgotten this bum 6 years ago lol

 

[Art Vandelay_]

We stuck with our nearly man and eventually the door opened. Have sacked 1 coach since 1979.

 

[StrappingTape]

We stuck with our nearly man and eventually the door opened. Have sacked 1 coach since 1979.

Your nearly man who has won 2 flags and made 3 grand finals? Geez, I couldn't possibly spot the difference between the 2.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Your nearly man who has won 2 flags and made 3 grand finals? Geez, I couldn't possibly spot the difference between the 2.

And until 2022 the rhetoric from fans of all neutral clubs was that that first flag was Bomber's team, and the 2020 GF was covid affected. We'd topped up and constantly fallen short and were then harshly critiqued for it.

Geelong's record in finals under Chris Scott

10 wins, 15 losses at a win rate of 40%. This is underwhelming, when compared to Geelong's record in the home and away under Chris Scott. However, is this year different, and are Geelong the real deal? Every year around this time, we hear that Geelong have made changes in gameplan and...

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Coach - Do you support the contract extension of Chris Scott

Simple Question.... Do you support the 2 year extension of Chris Scott

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Chris Scott's legacy if he gags in another finals series?

He has one of the highest win percentages of all time in the home and away, but his win percentage in the finals must be the worst of all time for any coach that has coached as long as he has. He's won 7 of 18 finals. He inherited a side in 2011 that basically coached itself with experienced...

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[StrappingTape]

And until 2022 the rhetoric from fans of all neutral clubs was that that first flag was Bomber's team, and the 2020 GF was covid affected. We'd topped up and constantly fallen short and were then harshly critiqued for it.

Geelong's record in finals under Chris Scott

10 wins, 15 losses at a win rate of 40%. This is underwhelming, when compared to Geelong's record in the home and away under Chris Scott. However, is this year different, and are Geelong the real deal? Every year around this time, we hear that Geelong have made changes in gameplan and...

www.bigfooty.com

Coach - Do you support the contract extension of Chris Scott

Simple Question.... Do you support the 2 year extension of Chris Scott

www.bigfooty.com

Chris Scott's legacy if he gags in another finals series?

He has one of the highest win percentages of all time in the home and away, but his win percentage in the finals must be the worst of all time for any coach that has coached as long as he has. He's won 7 of 18 finals. He inherited a side in 2011 that basically coached itself with experienced...

www.bigfooty.com

You can say all you want, he got that length of time because he had a flag on the board and prelims. If he hadn't won a flag let alone even made a GF, you'd have moved him on after a couple of those failures in prelims. Highlighting 2020 doesn't help your argument, it detrimental. There's never been a bigger free kick in AFL history than 2020 and 2021 for PAFC and Hinkley, by being able to stay home whilst everyone else was locked away up north and depressed yet he still couldn't get us to a GF in either. 2021 was even worse, he should have been sacked after that prelim and cleaning out his locker.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

You can say all you want, he got that length of time because he had a flag on the board and prelims. If he hadn't won a flag let alone even made a GF, you'd have moved him on after a couple of those failures in prelims. Highlighting 2020 doesn't help your argument, it detrimental. There's never been a bigger free kick in AFL history than 2020 and 2021 for PAFC and Hinkley, by being able to stay home whilst everyone else was locked away up north and depressed yet he still couldn't get us to a GF in either. 2021 was even worse, he should have been sacked after that prelim and cleaning out his locker.

2020 and 2021 PA sound eerily like 2013, 2016, 2017, 2019 or 2021.
He stayed because he worked for a CEO that has never sacked a coach. Not at WCE, not with us and hasn't yet at the Blues.

 

[StrappingTape]

2020 and 2021 PA sound eerily like 2013, 2016, 2017, 2019 or 2021.
He stayed because he worked for a CEO that has never sacked a coach. Not at WCE, not with us and hasn't yet at the Blues.

It's eerily the same except the fact he stayed because he won a flag. It's not hard to understand that success gets you a massive run on the board. We've won 2 finals since 2014, no other club would put up with this but here we are being told we should be happy.

Just for a second, imagine Geelong's 2021 contract negotiations with Chris Scott but he's never taken Geelong to a GF and you've had 2 finals wins in the last 7 years. Ooh wait there wouldn't have been any negotiations as it would have expired, and everyone parted ways amicably (if he was even still there by 2021).

 

[NetworkNerd]

Should be top 4 next weekend. From there anything is possible.

 

[simba_]

these posts are a fascinating study on loser culture within sports fans it is genuinely interesting. imagine if Roy Hodgson had been at Liverpool ever since 2010 and he'd done nothing but lose a few Semi Finals, the same thing would be happening, Crystal Palace and Wolves fans would be like "he's great! you guys haven't won it for 30 years anyway! you should be happy with what you have!"

(Fremantle and North Melbourne fans, you are the Crystal Palace and Wolves fans in that scenario, just to keep you up to speed)

 

[Schulzenfest]

these posts are a fascinating study on loser culture within sports fans it is genuinely interesting. imagine if Roy Hodgson had been at Liverpool ever since 2010 and he'd done nothing but lose a few Semi Finals, the same thing would be happening, Crystal Palace and Wolves fans would be like "he's great! you guys haven't won it for 30 years anyway! you should be happy with what you have!"

(Fremantle and North Melbourne fans, you are the Crystal Palace and Wolves fans in that scenario, just to keep you up to speed)

If Hinkley was an EPL manager he'd have been sacked 10 times over by now.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Should be in the top 4 by Sunday with a 7-12 squad.
Would be favourite for coach of the year atm

 

[JimmyBC]

Should be in the top 4 by Sunday with a 7-12 squad.

If you believe that you are dumber than he is.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

If you believe that you are dumber than he is.

Take me out of it and canvas the site then.

The first 50 ladder predictions for 2024 were as follows for PA:

11 5 6 9 4 4 6 10 10 11 15 1 13 10 7 5 6 2 3 7 10 7 7 2 12 16 11 6 8 5 8 2 11 13 7 10 7 3 5 10 8 7 9 7 9 13 6 10 4 11

Mean: 389/50 = 7.78
Median: 7
Mode: 7

Seems like most thought you were a team that should just squeak into finals.

To be fair given your trade period, also did the 50 after the end of trade period.

4 11 7 6 7 4 12 6 12 10 8 6 5 10 10 4 11 6 6 6 4 10 8 5 10 7 2 11 4 8 8 8 7 6 7 12 6 5 12 11 10 3 14 7 9 5 10 5 6 5

Mean: 366/50 = 7.32
Median: 7
Mode: 6

Seems like the masses thought you'd slightly improve but my thoughts on 7-12 aren't too far from the mark.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Take me out of it and canvas the site then.

The first 50 ladder predictions for 2024 were as follows for PA:

11 5 6 9 4 4 6 10 10 11 15 1 13 10 7 5 6 2 3 7 10 7 7 2 12 16 11 6 8 5 8 2 11 13 7 10 7 3 5 10 8 7 9 7 9 13 6 10 4 11

Mean: 389/50 = 7.78
Median: 7
Mode: 7

Seems like most thought you were a team that should just squeak into finals.

To be fair given your trade period, also did the 50 after the end of trade period.

4 11 7 6 7 4 12 6 12 10 8 6 5 10 10 4 11 6 6 6 4 10 8 5 10 7 2 11 4 8 8 8 7 6 7 12 6 5 12 11 10 3 14 7 9 5 10 5 6 5

Mean: 366/50 = 7.32
Median: 7
Mode: 6

Seems like the masses thought you'd slightly improve but my thoughts on 7-12 aren't too far from the mark.

Pretty nuts how you don't think the site's perception of our chances this year might have anything to do with the coach.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Pretty nuts how you don't think the site's perception of our chances this year might have anything to do with the coach.

Pretty nuts you think he's the issue and not the squad that scares no one.
His coaching just got a W and the hardest place in footy. Coach of the year contender.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Pretty nuts you think he's the issue and not the squad that scares no one.
His coaching just got a W and the hardest place in footy. Coach of the year contender.

His coaching is about as ineffective and middle of the road as your trolling.

One of the members of that squad scared your coach so much last week that he subbed a player on to tag him halfway through the second quarter. And that guy is probably the third or fourth best midfielder in our squad.