Can Mike Sheahan do that?

[campbell]

I am enjoying the Eagles change the story yet again.Is this the 3rd version they have put out.

Oh yeah Embers, it says a few kilos, not 15.

 

[bushie]

What has that got to do with anything? What is your point?

Do you or do you not agree that the right agreements are in place?

If you can't see the point of my post, may I suggest you get a couple more shots of espresso into you and have another go at reading it.

The point is pretty clear bunny!!

 

[bunsen burner]

If you can't see the point of my post, may I suggest you get a couple more shots of espresso into you and have another go at reading it.

The point is pretty clear bunny!!

I knw exactly what you're getting at - and what you're doing is:

Taking the moral high ground on illicit drugs by players

then avoiding the hard questions like "do you think it's ok for your employer to test you on the holidays"

And then without stating your actual stance, hiding behind "but there is an agreement".


Why are you going to such lengths to avoid stating your own stance? Are you trolling or are you really stupid enough to not see what you're doing?

 

[GoOsH1]

Keep dreaming and hoping bunny.

The fact of the matter is that the AFLPA signed off on this, and there is not a chance in hell that the AFL will change it.

And in all probability they will probably strengthen it.

And nothing that you or I say or believe will change that.

Build a friggen bridge.

I tell you one thing, I am betting the AFL is now spewing they have brough in out of competition NPED testing, it's making their 'brand' look really really bad, when in reality the players are no better or worse than any other professional sportsmen or women.
And now that it's in there's no way they can revoke it either, they have to live with the (probably endless) 'scandals'.

 

[bushie]

I knw exactly what you're getting at

I would question whether you know much at all bunny!

- and what you're doing is:



Taking the moral high ground on illicit drugs by players

As is my right. But then my high moral ground is just the same as the AFL and the AFLPA on this issue.

then avoiding the hard questions like "do you think it's ok for your employer to test you on the holidays"

Next time you get offered a job bunny,( I understand that you are unemployed at present), you may be asked to sign some form of agreement that may contain rules and regulations that you find unpalatable.

If one of those rules is getting drug tested on holidays then the choice is yours as to whether you unholster the pen.

WADA, The AFL and the AFLPA have seen fit to include off season drug testing in their agreement. No-one is forcing the players to sign it.

And then without stating your actual stance, hiding behind "but there is an agreement".

I empathise with your moral outrage in regards to this issue.

But maybe you should have lobbied the relevant bodies before they put this agreement together.

Bleating about it now proves little.

Why are you going to such lengths to avoid stating your own stance? Are you trolling or are you really stupid enough to not see what you're doing?

My personal feelings on this issue are on the record.

But just for you, I am personally against being tested on the weekends or while I am holidays.

But I am mature enough to realise that it is becoming more and more entrenched in todays work place.

And there isn't a government in the land with the guts to change it.

Nor will there be ever
IMO.

 

[bunsen burner]

I tell you one thing, I am betting the AFL is now spewing they have brough in out of competition NPED testing, it's making their 'brand' look really really bad, when in reality the players are no better or worse than any other professional sportsmen or women.
And now that it's in there's no way they can revoke it either, they have to live with the (probably endless) 'scandals'.

Too true. And serves them right for making such a dumb decision.

 

[campbell]

Too true. And serves them right for making such a dumb decision.

You tell that to the swimmers this week. Our Aussie swimmers, are true professional sports people. No drugs here.

They don't have the need for the adulation and partying of some footballers.They train their butts off, our guys don't put in the hours these guys do, or the same attention to detail on diet ans exercise.

They are in the pool at 5 am , no time to be out till 4 doing a number at a bar.

 

[bushie]

I tell you one thing, I am betting the AFL is now spewing they have brough in out of competition NPED testing, it's making their 'brand' look really really bad, when in reality the players are no better or worse than any other professional sportsmen or women.
And now that it's in there's no way they can revoke it either, they have to live with the (probably endless) 'scandals'.

I agree.

It is a very poorly thought out piece of legislation on behalf of the AFL.

But they have painted themselves into a corner with it, and will have to either improve it markedly or start from scratch with a more open and accountable system.

They simply wont get rid of it.

 

[bunsen burner]

You tell that to the swimmers this week. Our Aussie swimmers, are true professional sports people. No drugs here.

I personally know of an elite Australian swimmer who takes coke. I'm talking a big name here.

Get your blinkers off. It's a shame people as ignorant as you work with counselling and drug rehab (or whatever it is you do).

 

[campbell]

I personally know of an elite Australian swimmer who takes coke. I'm talking a big name here.

Get your blinkers off. It's a shame people as ignorant as you work with counselling and drug rehab (or whatever it is you do).

I am a nurse in a Maternity Unit.

 

[greennick]

You want to earn a few hundred grand as a Doctor - you don't take drugs.

You want to earn a few hundred grand as a Pilot - you don't take drugs.

You want to be a Nun - you be celibate.

There are sacrifices involved no matter what field you find yourself in - AFL players are living the dream, they are paid to play a sport they love, paid to keep themselves fit and healthy, and are treated like kings.

If they can't stay off drugs, a pretty simple thing that most of the population can manage, then they don't deserve the lifestyle.

1. I know doctors who take drugs - they don't get tested at random - also they often go to work on drugs - they sometimes end up working double 12 hour shifts, you try doing that without drugs!

2. I know pilots who take drugs - they never do it close to when they have to fly, but they do it

3. No comment - I don't know any nuns (but I am sure a bunch of them have had sex before)

4. Yes, most of the population can manage to stay off drugs, however if you look at their age group, the percentage that has dabbled is quite high (still less than a majority I believe). If you look at the percentage of footy players I would say at worst it is the same, probably even a bit lower - anyway at least the footy players are generally just dabbling not every weekend people like a lot I know!

 

[skipper kelly]

I am a nurse in a Maternity Unit.

Not a bad comeback.

 

[Bigger]

The article seems to suggest that Sheahan's source is two AFL players from Victorian Clubs.

A few points:

1. Pretty sure The Hun can still get sued regardless whether it's true or not. The onus is on Sheahan to provide evidence of guilt rather than Fletcher to provide evidence of non guilt. (I think)

2. What do these two players think they're doing dobbing a fellow player in to the media? Dogs.

3. I wonder if Fletcher and the other Eagles boys know who it is? Watch out for the Eagles roughing up and sledging players before the bounce this year.

4. What other players/teams went to Vegas last year? Anyone know?

I have geard some crazy sh it but this takes the cake.

Eagles roughing up and sledging? Get a grip.

 

[campbell]

I know a pilot and they get spot tested, for drugs and alcohol.

 

[Bigger]

then avoiding the hard questions like "do you think it's ok for your employer to test you on the holidays"

The guy flatlined on his holidays. The only avoidance of real issues seems to be coming from the West Coast Eagles Football Club.

 

[Baby Blue]

Some of the excuses and arguments put forward by Weagles supporters are just priceless! No wonder the club has a culture problem.

 

[SAYNTS.A1]

Any players that take illegal drugs will surely be the kind of people that would be taking them even if they weren't footy players.

If a player was not taking anything illegal - then really they shouldn't mind getting tested no matter what day of the week. (Nothing to hide).

Then if they feel the need to dice with the law and shovel in illegal drugs - then wait until after the small time frame of footy years has passed then it'll affect nobody but themselves.

 

[bunsen burner]

I am a nurse in a Maternity Unit.

So basically, you know FA.

 

[bunsen burner]

I have geard some crazy sh it but this takes the cake.

Eagles roughing up and sledging? Get a grip.

I'm talking about some special treatment.

Be interesting to watch if they have a crack at Josh Fraser and Nick Maxwell. Apparently both clubs are firing shots at each other privately. Fraser and Maxwell deny they are the snitches.

 

[campbell]

So basically, you know FA.

never worked in a Mat Unit hey.

We deliver your babies, we look after you newborn neonates that need intensive care, we look after your mums pre and post delivery.

I see it all with drugs and alcohol.

 

[The_Eagles]

I work in a hospital and I know nurses get off chops

 

[jim boy]

I tell you one thing, I am betting the AFL is now spewing they have brough in out of competition NPED testing, it's making their 'brand' look really really bad, when in reality the players are no better or worse than any other professional sportsmen or women.
And now that it's in there's no way they can revoke it either, they have to live with the (probably endless) 'scandals'.

From what I recall at the time, the AFL were forced to sign this and were rather unwilling. If they didn't sign, then they wouldn't get WADA accrediation and as the government had signed accords with WADA in relation to funding, then the AFL stood stood to lose significant amounts of income. Or something to that effect.

 

[bunsen burner]

never worked in a Mat Unit hey.

We deliver your babies, we look after you newborn neonates that need intensive care, we look after your mums pre and post delivery.

I see it all with drugs and alcohol.

So you think because you see babies come out of drug addicted women that you are some sort of expert on drugs?

Clearly your "drugs are bad mmmkay" and zero tolerance attitude suggest you really don't know much about them at all except one small aspect.

 

[Embers]

Sounds like a certainty Sheehan will be taken to court over this now.

 

[bunsen burner]

From what I recall at the time, the AFL were forced to sign this and were rather unwilling. If they didn't sign, then they wouldn't get WADA accrediation and as the government had signed accords with WADA in relation to funding, then the AFL stood stood to lose significant amounts of income. Or something to that effect.

I believe it was $500k. Before that the AFL didn't have a policy on testing and punishing players for NPED. They did test but that was so they were aware of what was going on and could pre empt any ptential problems.

At the time I remember voicing that the AFL should have told the Govt to GGF and keep their $500k.