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Yeah, why is he diagnosing medical conditions when its not on his job description and he doesn't have a medical degree
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Injury Blue Healers Medical Room 2022
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This very much has the potential to be to Voss what Kreuzer's foot injuries were to Ratten. Between that and some of the slant to the drafting process this year, starting to feel like history is repeating itself.
That said, Voss was freewheeling about in Brisbane at the time too making some wild player acquisitions.
That said, Voss was freewheeling about in Brisbane at the time too making some wild player acquisitions.
I am unclear, what does any of this have to do with the Walsh injury?
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I heard he put a saddle on him and rode him up the concrete ramp and was fined for overuse of the whip
Not sure which aspect of Walsh’s bulging disc issue you could attribute to Russell’s competence BF?
Once scanned and identified the medical advice would generally be to try non-invasive treatments (rest, ant-inflammatory medication). In many cases this may be enough. Obviously in severe cases it’s not and as others have said, surgery becomes the last treatment option - not the first.
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You’re allowed to, but people are equally allowed to call out the stupidity of doing so.
How do you know they didn’t take the correct course of action at the time?
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Not sure if stupidity is the right word.
You might have better manners than me though.
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It takes years for the surface to settle properly apparently. Hoping we are on the otherside of it now.
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that's what ashley & martin told me
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Player injured, await recovery.
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Any semi-literate google search will provide those who care with much information on the type of injury Walsh has and the standard protocol for treatment - it seems that my cursory reading of 5 different references - indicates that the Club followed standard protocol for such injuries. No medical person can tell whether the injury self-corrects ( as it often does) or doesn't - in Walsh's case it didn't. The Club (no doubt following medical advice) followed the protocol.
Good luck Walshy may be a blessing in disguise for the kid to start listening to his body now than plow through all the time.
Thankfully we have another gut runner in Curnow as cover.. recruited another decent runner in Acres.. a good hard running first round draft pick and a player in Cotters who I think is ready to step up some more. Maybe we can hope Dow might take this opportunity or LOB to increase his value beyond wing.
Thankfully we have another gut runner in Curnow as cover.. recruited another decent runner in Acres.. a good hard running first round draft pick and a player in Cotters who I think is ready to step up some more. Maybe we can hope Dow might take this opportunity or LOB to increase his value beyond wing.
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sounds like the findings of a royal commission..........
I have no doubt that the top medical advice was sought for Walsh's back. These types of over use injuries have a very wide range of outcomes, from rest to surgery.
No medical expert can accurately predict the exact outcome, it is a wait and see scenario.
He has the best care and will do the absolute most to ensure a healthy recovery.
All the best Sam, you are an inspiration to us all in terms of preparation and effort.
Next man up in the meantime!
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No medical expert can accurately predict the exact outcome, it is a wait and see scenario.
He has the best care and will do the absolute most to ensure a healthy recovery.
All the best Sam, you are an inspiration to us all in terms of preparation and effort.
Next man up in the meantime!
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And I'm allowed to call out the stupidity of believing that all our injury woes year after year are due solely to extremely bad luck...
How do you know they did take the correct course? What evidence is there to back that claim when time after time this sort of thing happens...
Once or twice it happens, yeah bad luck but how often injuries are either misdiagnosed, or players programs haven't been managed well leading to further complications... it's obvious that there's a sheer level of incompetence going on here... of course, you can't help but do your usual crap of calling someone stupid for having an opinion you don't like...
Open your eyes.. we knew Walsh's back wasn't right before our last game... that was a relatively long time ago... 7 days prior Hansen was confident he'd be ready for round 1... come on purely taking the piss here...
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Go ahead, unleash the words you'd use for it...
Unless of course, you're too yellow to do so...
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Thanks for at least responding in a civil way... unlike that arrogant mod...
Russell is director of high performance. Cook himself defended Russell over the massive injury list we had this season. If Russell's role and responsibility was not around injuries, why wouldn't Cook just say that? Why would he feel the need to defend him publicly like that if there was no noise? I guess so many stupid people yeah.. but the intellectual superiors on here who have been wrong about things for years know better...
It's clear we have had very bad setbacks for multiple players over the years... so I'm not buying it that it has nothing to do with Russell's competence.. I'm also not buying that it takes 4 months to figure out whether he needs surgery or not...
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poster isn't buying it - bbc holds back news service for clarification - un calls extraordinary meeting - albanese returns prematurely from leave to announce finding of premature evaluation.........poster insists he is not a robot but gets number of traffic lights incorrect.......more inside
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Santa isn't real... go to bed.
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Of course you are, but literally nobody is saying that.
I don't know they took the correct course. I do know they took the course they thought was correct.
It's very easy to sit behind a screen and criticise, but these guys aren't idiots. They're medical professionals who would have a huge amount of data driving each and every decision they make.
And they certainly have more than the 0 knowledge of the situation that you're bringing to the table.
Look, I'm no doctor, but I'd have thought surgery on the back is something you generally want to avoid and you'll exhaust pretty much every other option before heading down that path.
If they thought the issue may heal without surgery there's absolutely no issue holding off, nor is there any issue with now deciding to go down the surgical route.
Sounds like they set a deadline of mid-December and if the back hadn't responded by then, they'd opt for surgery.
How is that controversial or wrong in any way? And what medical backing have you got to support it being so?
Are we the only club to suffer injuries or misdiagnoses?
Are we the only club with players experiencing complications and setbacks from injury?
We went through a thorough club-wide review 12 months ago and the S&C team largely remains...what does that tell you?
As for calling you stupid...nope. Didn't do it. I did though say it's stupid that you'd question AR without knowing anything about the subject you're questioning him on...because it is.
It's a bit alarming that you're not able to distinguish between the two and that you seem to genuinely believe that a random unqualified person with NO facts knows better than medical professional with ALL the facts.
My eyes are wide open, thanks. I'm sorry I prefer to look at all the facts in front of me rather than jumping to conclusions because I think I know better.
It's staggering you think these things are so rigid. And it says a lot.
Arrogance is assuming one knows better than someone who has devoted decades of their life to high performance.
Only one of us has done that. I'll give you a moment to figure out which of us it is.
Who said there was no noise? Do you think the S&C department wasn't looked into during the review?
Cook defended him because he has more than 0 facts in front of him. It's really not a difficult concept to understand.
That's fine, because nobody is selling anything for you to buy. As above, I would have thought it's pretty standard to see if you can avoid surgery if there are other routes that may be at least equally as effective.
But I get that logic often takes a back seat when we enter these discussions.
Russell is not a doctor, Matt Chamberlain is the club doctor. External surgeons are also consulted depending injury
Player suffers an injury, doctor, determines best course of action. Injury isn't healing with non surgical treatment (surgery should always be the last resort)
Medical experts, determine the next course of action is surgery
Posters want to slam the club, moreso AR, a high performance expert, not a doctor, that has previously been involved at 3 different clubs that have won premierships
Player suffers an injury, doctor, determines best course of action. Injury isn't healing with non surgical treatment (surgery should always be the last resort)
Medical experts, determine the next course of action is surgery
Posters want to slam the club, moreso AR, a high performance expert, not a doctor, that has previously been involved at 3 different clubs that have won premierships
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He has had a few elite games,showing some consistency also inbetween previous injuries before the knee...
probably a make or break for him,agreed........
we have a few at the moment...could be a bit of an interesting year
i agree....let him rest[huge start to his career at such a young age]....he went through the grinder already
if he gets lucky he will be 100 perecent good after a few months...with plenty of rest
happy Xmas walshy !!!
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See here's the thing. Calling someone yellow is probably not the thing to do these days with the Chinese/East Asian connotations and probably went out 30 years ago. However I would never call you a racist because I don't know you, your circumstances etc and I have serious doubts that that was your intention. There's nothing worse than keyboard warriors forcing their opinions on others.
Andrew Russell is highly regarded in his field. For years we gave decried the admin ability of our staff etc. Universal consensus is that in getting Sayers and Cook etc we are a very well run club. They have the ability to get rid of Russell at any time if they think that he is doing a poor job. They haven't- in fact they have backed him in.
I don't know anything about Walsh's injury or its circumstances. I doubt that anyone else on here does so I can't imagine that it's anything other than keyboard warriors having a guess and trying to justify their pre conceived ideas.
And this from Sydney, a club lauded for their professionalism, in regards to Hewett's back injury.
Note, they too were aware of his bulging disc and Hewett was still playing before they opted for surgery. Also note their long list of injuries
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Note, they too were aware of his bulging disc and Hewett was still playing before they opted for surgery. Also note their long list of injuries
Injury blow for Hewett
Midfielder George Hewett joins a long list of Swans players on the sidelines, with the 24-year ruled out for a significant period due to a back injury.
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