Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

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Floating Doughnut said:
Who are the quote marks for can’t see him saying that ?

It’s not that the Labor party doesn’t like Jews, they like votes , especially in the seat
held by Bourke with a vast Muslim majority of voters.

The Muslim vote to Jew ratio is 8-1 in Australia .

Labor were weak and silent since the Opera House fiasco.
The majority of Australians see this for what it is and a terrible misjudgment by Albo
just like the Voice the silent majority see through him.

Albo in his University days was also a founding member of the friends of Palestine
where Israeli flags were burnt by demonstrators following one demonstration speech he made.
his view is Bias .

And for balance Sussan Ley was also a member and so like many politicians
goes with the wind and I find hypocritical on this matter.
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Of course Labor is basically sitting on the fence abstaining from a critical United Nations vote and you don't need to be Einstein to work out why with an election in the next few months tipped to be a close race and likely neither main party being able to govern in their own right.

It's all about the Muslim vote and placating the left supporters.
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
So just give up.

Bit like your view on dealing with climate change...

Doing nothing is not a solution!
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Once again you keep crapping on with words that I've never said.

Nowhere have I ever said do nothing in either case.

I have questioned Labor's headlong rush into renewables before having even close to the infrastructure in place for a reasonable trouble free transition and I certainly have serious concerns about having a reliable firming agent for the times when solar and wind aren't cutting the mustard, IMO nuclear is the ideal partner to the renewables for those times.

With the middle east the reality, yes the reality is there will never be a long term solution and centuries old history dictates that, the centuries long hatred runs way way too deep.

So how about you stop with this crap stating as fact what I have never uttered.
 
Floating Doughnut said:
Who are the quote marks for can’t see him saying that ?

It’s not that the Labor party doesn’t like Jews, they like votes , especially in the seat
held by Bourke with a vast Muslim majority of voters.

The Muslim vote to Jew ratio is 8-1 in Australia .

Labor were weak and silent since the Opera House fiasco.
The majority of Australians see this for what it is and a terrible misjudgment by Albo
just like the Voice the silent majority see through him.

Albo in his University days was also a founding member of the friends of Palestine
where Israeli flags were burnt by demonstrators following one demonstration speech he made.
his view is Bias .

And for balance Sussan Ley was also a member and so like many politicians
goes with the wind and I find hypocritical on this matter.
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Steve9798 troll said it. Scroll up. Bicks jumped in defending it.
 

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Mutineer said:
Once again you keep crapping on with words that I've never said.

Nowhere have I ever said do nothing in either case.

I have questioned Labor's headlong rush into renewables before having even close to the infrastructure in place for a reasonable trouble free transition and I certainly have serious concerns about having a reliable firming agent for the times when solar and wind aren't cutting the mustard, IMO nuclear is the ideal partner to the renewables for those times.

With the middle east the reality, yes the reality is there will never be a long term solution and centuries old history dictates that, the centuries long hatred runs way way too deep.

So how about you stop with this crap stating as fact what I have never uttered.
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Well yes I interpreted you saying "there will never be a solution" as do nothing because it won't work as it's all too hard. I'm saying we can't give up no matter how hard & may fail... but we know the current situation will never work, so need to try something different. Most of the world would prefer a 2 state solution... but clearly with no Hamas involvement with the Palestinian state. The talk of forcing the Palestinians out after Israel destroying most of their homes will only lead to more violence. There needs to be compromise... which is difficult when both parties want more.

On energy, think we can agree the Commonwealth Governments for the past couple of decades have a lack of a plan/strategy for transitioning to renewables, allowing for the aging coal supply... & now playing catch-up... including with energy transmission. I'm under no illusion that we will need non-renewable power for the foreseeable future. Keeping the coal power stations open for longer than necessary is coming at a high cost & unreliability.

Would be good to see an actual short, medium & long term plan from both major parties. Dutton has provided his long term plan, but it's problematic without detailing how he is going to manage the transition in the next 2 decades.
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
Well yes I interpreted you saying "there will never be a solution" as do nothing because it won't work as it's all too hard. I'm saying we can't give up no matter how hard & may fail... but we know the current situation will never work, so need to try something different. Most of the world would prefer a 2 state solution... but clearly with no Hamas involvement with the Palestinian state. The talk of forcing the Palestinians out after Israel destroying most of their homes will only lead to more violence. There needs to be compromise... which is difficult when both parties want more.

On energy, think we can agree the Commonwealth Governments for the past couple of decades have a lack of a plan/strategy for transitioning to renewables, allowing for the aging coal supply... & now playing catch-up... including with energy transmission. I'm under no illusion that we will need non-renewable power for the foreseeable future. Keeping the coal power stations open for longer than necessary is coming at a high cost & unreliability.

Would be good to see an actual short, medium & long term plan from both major parties. Dutton has provided his long term plan, but it's problematic without detailing how he is going to manage the transition in the next 2 decades.
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Did you see the palestinian mobbing of a couple of the returning hostages? If that doesn't tell you how endemic and inseparable Hamas is to them, then you might not understand why there can never be a two-state "solution".
 
BRL121 said:
Did you see the palestinian mobbing of a couple of the returning hostages? If that doesn't tell you how endemic and inseparable Hamas is to them, then you might not understand why there can never be a two-state "solution".
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Can't say I did, but I'm not surprised.

The current situation can't go on, so there needs to be a different solution

We don't know whether a 2 state solution would be unsuccessful as it hasn't been tried... but can't be worse than this continuous warring.

The suggestion to remove all Palestinians from their homeland is a guarantee for reprisals.
 
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Punchy Bassett said:
Question: If Israel was wiped off the map tomorrow do people seriously think Hamas etc would stop and disband?
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No.

Another question is do you think that bulldozing Palestinian communities for decades and generally being oppressive would breed a hatred of Israel and fuel terrorist groups like Hamas?

The Israeli government (not Jewish people) are far from an innocent party to the situation.
 
Just a slight change of heart in a decade by good old Mali..


Nuclear debate ‘a must’ for South Australia, says union boss​

THE state’s most powerful union boss has joined a Business SA campaign for South Australia to debate the issue of nuclear power.
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February 21, 2014 - 9:59PM

HE state’s most powerful union boss has joined a Business SA campaign for South Australia to debate the issue of nuclear power.
Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees’ Association state secretary and Labor Right faction powerbroker Peter Malinauskas has gone against the views of the State Government to back the nuclear industry.

“I believe climate change is a real challenge we need to face up to, and nuclear energy can be a safe source of base load power, with zero carbon emissions,’’ he said.

“Thus, I find it contradictory and irresponsible when I see the Greens and environmentalists outright opposing nuclear power.

“We should have a mature debate based on science and economics to determine if a nuclear industry is viable in SA.’’
Political parties and community leaders were this week asked to comment on the results of a Future SA survey that thousands of readers of The Advertiser/Sunday Mail responded to in print and online.

When asked “Should we allow nuclear power stations in SA?”, 58.3 per cent of respondents said yes and 41.7 per cent said no.

When asked “Should we create a uranium dump in SA?”, 44.1 said yes, but 55.9 per cent no.

South Australian Senator Nick Xenophon, who is backing candidates in the SA Legislative Council, said he supported debate on nuclear issues.
 
Mutineer said:
Just a slight change of heart in a decade by good old Mali..


Nuclear debate ‘a must’ for South Australia, says union boss​

THE state’s most powerful union boss has joined a Business SA campaign for South Australia to debate the issue of nuclear power.
2 min read
February 21, 2014 - 9:59PM

HE state’s most powerful union boss has joined a Business SA campaign for South Australia to debate the issue of nuclear power.
Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees’ Association state secretary and Labor Right faction powerbroker Peter Malinauskas has gone against the views of the State Government to back the nuclear industry.

“I believe climate change is a real challenge we need to face up to, and nuclear energy can be a safe source of base load power, with zero carbon emissions,’’ he said.

“Thus, I find it contradictory and irresponsible when I see the Greens and environmentalists outright opposing nuclear power.

“We should have a mature debate based on science and economics to determine if a nuclear industry is viable in SA.’’
Political parties and community leaders were this week asked to comment on the results of a Future SA survey that thousands of readers of The Advertiser/Sunday Mail responded to in print and online.

When asked “Should we allow nuclear power stations in SA?”, 58.3 per cent of respondents said yes and 41.7 per cent said no.

When asked “Should we create a uranium dump in SA?”, 44.1 said yes, but 55.9 per cent no.

South Australian Senator Nick Xenophon, who is backing candidates in the SA Legislative Council, said he supported debate on nuclear issues.
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As I have said earlier, I'm not one for completely ruling on nuclear in the future... but imo it's unlikely. If we have a proper distribution grid, I don't believe we would need as many as proposed by the coalition.

However, there needs to be a short long term strategy as to how we transition energy sources... looking at alternatives based on different assumptions as to how technological advances with renewables are likely to impact.

BTW, these percentages reflect business not wider community. Nuclear will be very unlikely to get approved through parliament which a huge sticking point.
 

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Mutineer said:
Just a slight change of heart in a decade by good old Mali..


Nuclear debate ‘a must’ for South Australia, says union boss​

THE state’s most powerful union boss has joined a Business SA campaign for South Australia to debate the issue of nuclear power.
2 min read
February 21, 2014 - 9:59PM

HE state’s most powerful union boss has joined a Business SA campaign for South Australia to debate the issue of nuclear power.
Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees’ Association state secretary and Labor Right faction powerbroker Peter Malinauskas has gone against the views of the State Government to back the nuclear industry.

“I believe climate change is a real challenge we need to face up to, and nuclear energy can be a safe source of base load power, with zero carbon emissions,’’ he said.

“Thus, I find it contradictory and irresponsible when I see the Greens and environmentalists outright opposing nuclear power.

“We should have a mature debate based on science and economics to determine if a nuclear industry is viable in SA.’’
Political parties and community leaders were this week asked to comment on the results of a Future SA survey that thousands of readers of The Advertiser/Sunday Mail responded to in print and online.

When asked “Should we allow nuclear power stations in SA?”, 58.3 per cent of respondents said yes and 41.7 per cent said no.

When asked “Should we create a uranium dump in SA?”, 44.1 said yes, but 55.9 per cent no.

South Australian Senator Nick Xenophon, who is backing candidates in the SA Legislative Council, said he supported debate on nuclear issues.
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Jesus, digging articles from 11 years ago or so.

Getting a bit desperate aren’t we.

It has no relevance today given where we have gone with renewables. Perhaps you need to ask him today what he thinks.

So politicians over time can’t change their minds? Now be careful how you answer this.
 
kirky said:
Jesus, digging articles from 11 years ago or so.

Getting a bit desperate aren’t we.

It has no relevance today given where we have gone with renewables. Perhaps you need to ask him today what he thinks.

So politicians over time can’t change their minds? Now be careful how you answer this.
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LOL

Keep up please...Are you one of Mali's old school lefties? 🤣😂


August 16, 2024 - 6:00PM


Premier Peter Malinauskas says new technology might make nuclear power economic​

Premier Peter Malinauskas says technology change might make nuclear power economical for Australia.
Premier Peter Malinauskas has left the door ajar on nuclear power, saying technology change might make it economical for Australia in the future.
Speaking at an Adelaide business lunch on Friday, Mr Malinauskas said he was “all for” nuclear energy if power prices became cheaper in South Australia – but carpeted Coalition policy to put a reactor in Port Augusta as “insanely expensive”.

Mr Malinauskas urged debate only on economic terms, saying nuclear energy’s safety was “well-established” and should not be blocked “just because there’s a few lefties who are going to be opposed to it for old-school, nostalgic reasons”.


In wide-ranging comments about energy, Mr Malinauskas also said gas was “mission-critical” to back up renewables and lashed “diabolical” federal planning laws that he branded too time-consuming.



“I welcome discussion and debate and I think it’s an analysis that should be ongoing, because, maybe in the future, at some point, the economics of nuclear will change as the technology evolves,” he said.

“The (Peter) Dutton (Coalition) policy is to put a small modular reactor in Port Augusta. If that makes power cheaper in South Australia, I’m all for it.

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I'm sure the left had nothing to do with this.
 
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Kane McGoodwin said:
In the ADF?

Surely not.

Would be the 1st news story on all news outlets.
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Did you read the article?

Pretty sure he's referring to other countries even terrorists flags being flown at Protests in Australia, I've also seen the flag of Lebanon flown. No doubt you've seen footage of Australian flags being burnt at these protests as well.

Patriotism used to be strong in Australia post war not so much anymore.
 
Mutineer said:
Did you read the article?

Pretty sure he's referring to other countries even terrorists flags being flown at Protests in Australia, I've also seen the flag of Lebanon flown. No doubt you've seen footage of Australian flags being burnt at these protests as well.

Patriotism used to be strong in Australia post war not so much anymore.
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There have always been different flags used in marches or other events in a multicultural country like ours. This isn't a new thing Bicks.

Clearly terrorist organisation flags, nazi symbols, etc are banned in public & there are consequences if displayed... which most would agree with. There are already laws in place.
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So are you saying my better half can't display her Finnish flag in public... eg. At the Australian grand prix when Kimi Raikkonen won unexpectedly?
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
There have always been different flags used in marches or other events in a multicultural country like ours. This isn't a new thing Bicks.

Clearly terrorist organisation flags, nazi symbols, etc are banned in public & there are consequences if displayed... which most would agree with. There are already laws in place.
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So are you saying my better half can't display her Finnish flag in public... eg. At the Australian grand prix when Kimi Raikkonen won unexpectedly?
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I'm not saying anything just my take on what Peter Leahy means and re patriotism especially in today's young people.
 
Mutineer said:
I'm not saying anything just my take on what Peter Leahy means and re patriotism especially in today's young people.
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Do you think he is in touch with the younger crowd?

Honestly think it's a slow news day.

Australia is a multicultural country & we celebrate different cultures & their flags.

Its an important part of who we are.

If we were allowing terrorist flags like ISIS, then that would be a completely different matter.
 
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