Coach Alastair Clarkson - NMFC Senior Coach - Coaching & Football Discussion

[WesternRoo]

Brad Scott levels of bullshit IMO

On the line of “easy fix”

“Aberration”

 

[WesternRoo]

He outcoached Simmo and JL in his first two. Those games were an eternity ago now but I keep coming back to that ****ing saga. Refreshed, revitalised Clarkson with gap year sporting wisdom to impart was on full display. Have we seen him since? I think not

We were getting belted before he took his holiday.

This was after the first 2 wins.

Chris Fagan has won a premiership and been in 2 GF’s since.

He hasn’t embraced the rebuild at all. It’s really been identical to Scott.

Rather than backing in our draftees (like Mitchell has), he has clogged up the team with past it veterans, journeyman and ordinary role players from other clubs.

Tucker, Howe, Pink, Shiels, Daniel, Parker, Logue, Corr

Majority of those guys are not getting a game at any club, let alone a good one.

 

[zoomba23]

We were getting belted before he took his holiday.

This was after the first 2 wins.

Chris Fagan has won a premiership and been in 2 GF’s since.

He hasn’t embraced the rebuild at all. It’s really been identical to Scott.

Rather than backing in our draftees (like Mitchell has), he has clogged up the team with past it veterans, journeyman and ordinary role players from other clubs.

Tucker, Howe, Pink, Shiels, Daniel, Parker, Logue, Corr

Majority of those guys are not getting a game at any club, let alone a good one.

I know. But I think it was weighing him down a long time before he actually spoke up about it. It had to have started around R4 imo. He has form in the journeyman recruitment area, so maybe that happens anyway, but I remember feeling like we had a football team again. There was distinct hope and optimism, and then... well, we know what happened next. I'm not using it to excuse his current performance but I'd put good money on that having permanently damaged him

 

[DuckYeah]

As I was given a day of because some weak individuals can’t handle a little bit of Duck passion. I was going to say this yesterday.

Dont be coming round here Clarkson, pissing on our backs and telling us its raining. They had a bunch of players out, you saying they “use the corridor” then completely ignore fixing that during the 3/4 is a massive fail. You were shown up, you were embarrassed by Cox. You’re on thin ice

 

[justroyal]

So they planned to use the corridor.
Knew it was getting restricted from the 1st quarter. But there is no way to address fixing it or changing it?
At training do the coaches say, ‘ok what do we do if the corridor gets filled?
Bombs down the wings and slingshot turnovers?’

Honestly I’m so confused how there isn’t a game style change? **** even just manning up would be a start

 

[DuckYeah]

If this continues, I hope he see’s North as he saw them before he took the contract and quits so we dont have to pay him out.

 

[roosmad]

As I was given a day of because some weak individuals can’t handle a little bit of Duck passion. I was going to say this yesterday.

Dont be coming round here Clarkson, pissing on our backs and telling us its raining. They had a bunch of players out, you saying they “use the corridor” then completely ignore fixing that during the 3/4 is a massive fail. You were shown up, you were embarrassed by Cox. You’re on thin ice

Very thin ice………..

 

[Frank Thring]

If they have numbers in the corridor then why did we find it so hard to move it around the wings like Collingwood does, surely we would outnumber them outside the corridor?

 

[DocSholl]

If they have numbers in the corridor then why did we find it so hard to move it around the wings like Collingwood does, surely we would outnumber them outside the corridor?

Because no one works hard to provide options down the wings. For all the criticism RHJ got, there were several times we tried to switch to his side of the ground and he was literally the only player moving.

 

[Frank Thring]

Because no one works hard to provide options down the wings. For all the criticism RHJ got, there were several times we tried to switch to his side of the ground and he was literally the only player moving.

If you watch other good teams their wingers keep their shape while ours follow the ball and shrink our shape. How is that not teachable?

 

[Horizons_00]

If they have numbers in the corridor then why did we find it so hard to move it around the wings like Collingwood does, surely we would outnumber them outside the corridor?

I remember every time wed lose under Brad, he would say "we expected the opposition to...."

Oh awesome, if you did then WTF did you coach during the week?

Clarko got ****ing schooled by a young coach. Unfortunately a lot of these old heads are very stubborn and if it worked in their past that's it.

He is a grandpa in a lot our players eyes

 

[DocSholl]

If you watch other good teams their wingers keep their shape while ours follow the ball and shrink our shape. How is that not teachable?

But also, when a good side starts to switch, their half forwards are already on their bike to get to that side of the ground. We do it early in games, but it wears off and by the second half, we end up just getting trapped at half back because of the lack of movement

 

[Frank Thring]

I remember every time wed lose under Brad, he would say "we expected the opposition to...."

Oh awesome, if you did then WTF did you coach during the week?

Clarko got ****ing schooled by a young coach. Unfortunately a lot of these old heads are very stubborn and if it worked in their past that's it.

He is a grandpa in a lot our players eyes

Our game plan was to handball through the corridor which was a disaster.

 

[DuckYeah]

I remember every time wed lose under Brad, he would say "we expected the opposition to...."

Oh awesome, if you did then WTF did you coach during the week?

Clarko got ****ing schooled by a young coach. Unfortunately a lot of these old heads are very stubborn and if it worked in their past that's it.

He is a grandpa in a lot our players eyes

Yeh but it works for Fagan. Fagan has Bruce, Morris and Davis who are far superior to the spuds Clarkson has. Not excusing Alistair but a lot of this is on the assistant coaches. We have heard Clarkson has stood back to let them do the tactical side of things

 

[Horizons_00]

Our game plan was to handball through the corridor which was a disaster.

Got the be able to have a plan b

 

[Horizons_00]

Yeh but it works for Fagan. Fagan has Bruce, Morris and Davis who are far superior to the spuds Clarkson has. Not excusing Alistair but a lot of this is on the assistant coaches. We have heard Clarkson has stood back to let them do the tactical side of things

Yeah agree. Will Clarko listen? Would love someone like Pendles

 

[DocSholl]

Yeh but it works for Fagan. Fagan has Bruce, Morris and Davis who are far superior to the spuds Clarkson has. Not excusing Alistair but a lot of this is on the assistant coaches. We have heard Clarkson has stood back to let them do the tactical side of things

Didn't we give him free reign to pick his own assistants?

 

[DuckYeah]

Didn't we give him free reign to pick his own assistants?

I dont know the ins and outs of who and why. Just for clarity, Im not giving him a pass. He’s the boss so it falls on his head.

 

[DocSholl]

Fair enough. Just feels like 18 months ago we were lauding his ability to attract high profile assistants like Clarke, Adcock and Barlow, now they're no good?

 

[shintemaster]

Because no one works hard to provide options down the wings. For all the criticism RHJ got, there were several times we tried to switch to his side of the ground and he was literally the only player moving.

I thought the same. I mentioned in another thread that even though he started the game like last weeks poor performance was the new standard it looked to my eye live that he started to play his role better as the game wore on (with little reward). In the 3rd & 4th quarter he was one of the few running the wings with pace and intent. More of them need to be willing to run, particularly if we don't have control of the middle. It is clear now that with this team it either dominates centre clearances (and can maul even strong teams) or it is ineffective. Midfield needs a reset and IMO happy to see some sacrificial lambs to prove the point. We are in a position where we need to have more accountability, not back players in constantly who only do what they need to every 3rd or 4th week.

 

[DuckYeah]

Fair enough. Just feels like 18 months ago we were lauding his ability to attract high profile assistants like Clarke, Adcock and Barlow, now they're no good?

Barlow is a development coach. I doubt he has much input into line coaching.

I think Adcock, Clarke and Adams are spuds

 

[Frank Thring]

Got the be able to have a plan b

Why not get the ball at half back and kick long over the centre and get our forwards to move up and have the midfield streaming forward. So stagnate

 

[Themanbun]

Why not get the ball at half back and kick long over the centre and get our forwards to move up and have the midfield streaming forward. So stagnate

Because unfortunately they'll just sit off our deepest forward line by 10-20m and slingshot it back quicker than you can say "another flogging". Our mids will be closely marked even when they put the hammer down forward, and we're not notably quick in there.

 

[FlyHigh18]

This team’s inability to work a zone defense is really frustrating. It’s been 6 years with as many coaches and they still can’t get it right.

1v1 might get you into the 8 but no where near a flag. Clarko has no choice but to persist.

We need to stop using mids in HB and bring in proper defenders who know what they’re doing (hence why I liked the Maynard interest).

Finally the lack of pressure by the mids is an issue that continues. The mix either just isn’t clicking or they’re confused as to when it’s their turn to go.

 

[Arthur Cloke]

We were getting belted before he took his holiday.

This was after the first 2 wins.

Chris Fagan has won a premiership and been in 2 GF’s since.

He hasn’t embraced the rebuild at all. It’s really been identical to Scott.

Rather than backing in our draftees (like Mitchell has), he has clogged up the team with past it veterans, journeyman and ordinary role players from other clubs.

Tucker, Howe, Pink, Shiels, Daniel, Parker, Logue, Corr

Majority of those guys are not getting a game at any club, let alone a good one.

100%.
Rawlings, Viney & Clarko have a lot to answer for. Throw in Fisher, Biggy, Bonar......WTF have are our recruiters been looking at over the last 5-7 years?

It now looks like Whitlock has cost us a Top 4 pick. We take Z Duursma with pick 4, when we already had 7 general forwards on our list.
Pick 25 for C Daniel is laughable.

I'd love a President with some spine to come in and go WHACK!!!! But our CEO & President are "lovely" and will fully (blindly) support the current football dept no matter how much they screw this club over.

Is it too much of a stretch to think Clarko is barely invested in his current role - maybe hoping to be shown the door & collect his pay packet on the way out, rather than just leaving?????