Autopsy AFL 2024 Round 9 - Cats v Port Fri May 10th 7:10pm AEST (GMHBA)

[PhatBoy]

I listened to it. It was highly narcissistic like usual but slightly better than last week. I'm studying body language at the moment and I notice that every time he compliments port Adelaide in the slightest he uses what we call self-soothing body language called 'adaptors' like wiping his hands on his knees and clasping at his elbows. Typical narcissistic stuff. He legitimately finds it difficult to compliment the opposition.

He wrapped Horne-Francis like he was Ron Barassi. What did you want him to dou, flog it on the table?

 

[SC_Power]

I listened to it. It was highly narcissistic like usual but slightly better than last week. I'm studying body language at the moment and I notice that every time he compliments port Adelaide in the slightest he uses what we call self-soothing body language called 'adaptors' like wiping his hands on his knees and clasping at his elbows. Typical narcissistic stuff. He legitimately finds it difficult to compliment the opposition.

Let’s also understand, he didn’t just grow up looking at his reflection in the mirror, he saw his face everywhere, every minute growing up. At school, or at the dinner table, or on the footy field…..

 

[SC_Power]

He wrapped Horne-Francis like he was Ron Barassi. What did you want him to dou, flog it on the table?

He pumped JHF’s tyres only in order to talk about what a great coaching move he made in tagging him with Mullin. And then went onto how lucky the end of the game played out.

 

[PhatBoy]

He pumped JHF’s tyres only in order to talk about what a great coaching move he made in tagging him with Mullin. And then went onto how lucky the end of the game played out.

Right. That’s what he did, yeah.

 

[Mr Experience]

Chris Scott spent 5min speaking about umpires in his presser, I knew it'd be good when I saw it was 14min long.

 

[danster168]

He pumped JHF’s tyres only in order to talk about what a great coaching move he made in tagging him with Mullin. And then went onto how lucky the end of the game played out.

I'm glad you could read through that too. And instead of just saying 'Port smashed us in the first half with football we couldn't combat so credit to them' he says 'Port are an emotional team and when they're playing in this emotion they can play good footy' or words to that effect.

It's so obvious to me what a twat he is.

 

[PhatBoy]

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It’s funny how when a coach is asked directly about umpires that they talk about them. It’s really interesting

 

[PhatBoy]

I'm glad you could read through that too. And instead of just saying 'Port smashed us in the first half with football we couldn't combat so credit to them' he says 'Port are an emotional team and when they're playing in this emotion they can play good footy' or words to that effect.

It's so obvious to me what a twat he is.

You really have trouble don’t you

 

[geelong_crazy26]

If u think Jhye Clark and Tanner Bruhn, a cooked Cam Guthrie, a 34 year old Dangerfield who's injured every 2nd week and Tom Atkins is going to take you all the way then good luck to ya.

Ports mids without arguably their best player in Rozee absolutely trounced the Cats out of the centre early on and that was realistically the difference in the game. He's a bigger out than Dangerfield or Bruhn and I wouldn't even have Port in the top 4 midfields in the comp.

My opinion is ur playing a fraudulent game style that is almost entirely reliant on slingshot footy and that it won't hold up come finals. Less space and higher pressure, I just don't see champagne football making up for such regular floggings in the middle.

We took care of Carlton just fine who have arguably close to the best midfield in the AFL or there abouts.

When our midfield is full strength and playing well we can compete and hang in there and break even.

I think the new extreme Leniency is hurting a defensive midfield side like geelong as we rely more so on creating turnovers and sling shot. The new bizzare rules are essentially refusing to pay htb and giving players who win it all day to dispose of it.

But in saying all this let’s not get knee jerky or dramatic… geelong has played poor two weeks in a row and lost two games by a kick.

The world is fine.

 

[danster168]

Straight back to the vfl for Jhye Clark I think. Only 58% game time. Like what's the point of playing someone 58% game time.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

We took care of Carlton just fine who have arguably close to the best midfield in the AFL or there abouts.

When our midfield is full strength and playing well we can compete and hang in there and break even.

I think the new extreme Leniency is hurting a defensive midfield side like geelong as we rely more so on creating turnovers and sling shot. The new bizzare rules are essentially refusing to pay htb and giving players who win it all day to dispose of it.

But in saying all this let’s not get knee jerky or dramatic… geelong has played poor two weeks in a row and lost two games by a kick.

The world is fine.

Midfield annihilated the Cats that night but unfortunately for us we defended as poorly as we have in probably 2-3 years.

As I said, I just don't see it working out come the pointy end of the year if Geelong's midfield are getting smashed that badly. Defenses tighten up, teams get more polished with ball in hand... Relying on oppositions mistakes in your back 50 to slingshot it over the back of their zone just doesn't sound sustainable.

Guess we'll find out soon enough anyway

 

[PhatBoy]

Straight back to the vfl for Jhye Clark I think. Only 58% game time. Like what's the point of playing someone 58% game time.

100 per cent of your brain time at least so there’s that

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Midfield annihilated the Cats that night but unfortunately for us we defended as poorly as we have in probably 2-3 years.

As I said, I just don't see it working out come the pointy end of the year if Geelong's midfield are getting smashed that badly. Defenses tighten up, teams get more polished with ball in hand... Relying on oppositions mistakes in your back 50 to slingshot it over the back of their zone just doesn't sound sustainable.

Guess we'll find out soon enough anyway

We won a flag with a very poor midfield also back in 2022. Collingwood won a flag with a pretty ordinary midfield as well last year.

You are presenting a very shallow simplistic look of footy.

And again, geelong won a flag in 2022 and collingwood in 2023 with slingshot defensive game styles. You seem out of touch with tactics.

There is a line thought. You can’t get beaten in the manner port did to us tonight. It is as much about the quality and cleanses of the clearances as anything else. A hack kick forward is different to running it in without pressure. Too much of the latter tonight.

I do think the only thing that is hurting us and helping a side like Carlton melb port atm is the loosening of the htb rule. Helps contested footy teams get a better run of play and fluency

 

[danster168]

100 per cent of your brain time at least so there’s that

Remember when I said 2 weeks ago that Geelong had had an easy draw? And let's wait until they play some decent opposition. well 2 weeks later, they've come back down to earth a fair bit. Still a competitive team though but nothing like the best couple of teams in the comp.

 

[Lingsface]

Another great game we unfortunately lost, Horne Francis was so damaging early. Stengle is playing so well the last month highly unselfish and so clean.

 

[PhatBoy]

Remember when I said 2 weeks ago that Geelong had had an easy draw? And let's wait until they play some decent opposition. well 2 weeks later, they've come back down to earth a fair bit. Still a competitive team though but nothing like the best couple of teams in the comp.

We’ve played two top 8 teams and lost by two kicks. Alarm bells are ringing

 

[Mr Meow]

We’ve played two top 8 teams and lost by two kicks. Alarm bells are ringing

He is direct messaging me out of the blue about this too. Isn't it 1am over there now?

That's kind of sad.

 

[SC_Power]

I'm glad you could read through that too. And instead of just saying 'Port smashed us in the first half with football we couldn't combat so credit to them' he says 'Port are an emotional team and when they're playing in this emotion they can play good footy' or words to that effect.

It's so obvious to me what a twat he is.

And then he was given the Dorothy Dixer about the umpires, complained about them for 5 minutes with the obligatory 5 second “I’m not saying I’m right and they have a really tough job” disclaimer… and then got the facts completely wrong about the “advantage” goal (3 Port players standing at the fall of the ball because of the whistle and Scott still claims no-one did, and no reporter calls him on it)… and then no-one asks him about Cameron and his head knock, and of course he won’t volunteer it (just like our team didnt with Aliir last year, but we were hounded over it).

Good on him as a coach, but geez he is on a good wicket with the sycophantic media there.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

We won a flag with a very poor midfield also back in 2022. Collingwood won a flag with a pretty ordinary midfield as well last year.

You are presenting a very shallow simplistic look of footy.

And again, geelong won a flag in 2022 and collingwood in 2023 with slingshot defensive game styles. You seem out of touch with tactics.

There is a line thought. You can’t get beaten in the manner port did to us tonight. It is as much about the quality and cleanses of the clearances as anything else. A hack kick forward is different to running it in without pressure. Too much of the latter tonight.

I do think the only thing that is hurting us and helping a side like Carlton melb port atm is the loosening of the htb rule. Helps contested footy teams get a better run of play and fluency

Both Geelong 2022 and Collingwood 2023 had considerably stronger midfields than what you've got this season. Night and day differences in terms of players form/age/ability from those teams and Cats 2024.

How do you honestly see yourself matching up against a team like Sydney who are just as good with ball in hand as ur mob but 10x better at winning the ball atm? Same with GWS?


Cats have some weapons of their own at the moment but they also have close to the worst midfield in the competition on paper at moment, maybe even the worst. Can't see it getting it done late in the year if they are going to continue getting bullied around the ball for large periods of games.

 

[Mr Meow]

Both Geelong 2022 and Collingwood 2023 had considerably stronger midfields than what you've got this season. Night and day differences in terms of players form/age/ability from those teams and Cats 2024.

How do you honestly see yourself matching up against a team like Sydney who are just as good with ball in hand as ur mob but 10x better at winning the ball atm? Same with GWS?


Cats have some weapons of their own at the moment but they also have close to the worst midfield in the competition on paper at moment, maybe even the worst. Can't see it getting it done late in the year if they are going to continue getting bullied around the ball for large periods of games.

Sydney are way too good. I suspect we'll give most other sides a decent game. If it's Parfitt, C.Guthrie, Atkins and Clark as our midfield starters in a final we'll be in trouble. The tough stretch of games ends in two weeks against GWS, as Gold Coast will be damn tough to beat in NT. Win one and we'll probably still make top 4. Lose both and we'll be back in that 6th-9th type zone.

Looking at the ladder, not a whole lot is going to separate 2nd through 7th at the end of the weekend and that's a fair reflection of where the comp is at.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Both Geelong 2022 and Collingwood 2023 had considerably stronger midfields than what you've got this season. Night and day differences in terms of players form/age/ability from those teams and Cats 2024.

How do you honestly see yourself matching up against a team like Sydney who are just as good with ball in hand as ur mob but 10x better at winning the ball atm? Same with GWS?


Cats have some weapons of their own at the moment but they also have close to the worst midfield in the competition on paper at moment, maybe even the worst. Can't see it getting it done late in the year if they are going to continue getting bullied around the ball for large periods of games.

No they weren’t. Geelong in 2022 had a very ordinary midfield, and it was never a focus nor something either the geelong premiership or collingwood premiership team cared much about. Both gave no stuff about clearances or contested footy and instead focused on defending across HB and then slingshotting.

The better teams prefer to defend higher and turn the ball over across HB then run into an open forward line as opposed to locking it in and bombing it into congestion.

I’d say in terms of midfield the focus is more for geelong collingwood to just break even and ensure the ball isn’t moved out cleanly from centre bounces with 6-6-6 or just ensure it isn’t run out easily from congestion.

It’s more a defensive focus than a contested focus for teams like geelong and collingwood the last two seasons. It’s end to end transition footy.

 

[Mr Meow]

No they weren’t. Geelong in 2022 had a very ordinary midfield, and it was never a focus nor something either the geelong premiership or collingwood premiership team cared much about. Both gave no stuff about clearances or contested footy and instead focused on defending across HB and then slingshotting.

The better teams prefer to defend higher and turn the ball over across HB then run into an open forward line as opposed to locking it in and bombing it into congestion.

I’d say in terms of midfield the focus is more for geelong collingwood to just break even and ensure the ball isn’t moved out cleanly from centre bounces with 6-6-6 or just ensure it isn’t run out easily from congestion.

It’s more a defensive focus than a contested focus for teams like geelong and collingwood the last two seasons. It’s end to end transition footy.

In 2022 though Blicavs, Stanley. C.Guthrie and Atkins were all in better form. Selwood as a burst player still kept us competitive and then Smith was strong on the wing.

The players we need to step up to match that are Bruhn, Bowes and Guthrie when the first two are available. The Parfitt of the last 2 weeks won't do either. It is also time to roll the dice on Conway/Blicavs as our ruck set up whenever the kid is available. Then we will be reliant on Dangerfield's hammies surviving after he returns as it is night and day difference with us still depending on whether he's fit.

 

[PhatBoy]

Honestly who the **** cares

I haven’t for one second sat around and analysed the teams that aren’t North, West Coast, Richmond, Hawthorn, probably St Kilda, the Dogs, Adelaide, Gold Coast and gone ‘this is why you cannot possibly win the competition and lll laugh at anyone who suggests that you can and I’ll scour your coach’s press conference and his votes because that’s what I do when I’m not going through the local council papers to pick up on any spelling errors’ and Christ knows why anyone bothers as much as you blokes do

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

No they weren’t. Geelong in 2022 had a very ordinary midfield, and it was never a focus nor something either the geelong premiership or collingwood premiership team cared much about. Both gave no stuff about clearances or contested footy and instead focused on defending across HB and then slingshotting.

The better teams prefer to defend higher and turn the ball over across HB then run into an open forward line as opposed to locking it in and bombing it into congestion.

I’d say in terms of midfield the focus is more for geelong collingwood to just break even and ensure the ball isn’t moved out cleanly from centre bounces with 6-6-6 or just ensure it isn’t run out easily from congestion.

It’s more a defensive focus than a contested focus for teams like geelong and collingwood the last two seasons. It’s end to end transition footy.

Disagree. 2022 you had C.Guthrie and Atkins have the best seasons of their careers and were absolutely brutal around the ball. Blicavs was still in his prime and Selwood and Danger were still performing to a good level, obviously both wound back the clock in the Grand Final but overall they were still good through the season.

Pies had Daicos x2, Degoey, Crisp, Mitchell, Pendles and others. They were a little bit more hot and cold in winning contested ball but they had the ability to put serious damage on the scoreboard in rapid succession and did so frequently.

Anyway, this is a roadblock discussion so I'm just going to say agree to disagree and move on.

 

[The 747]

Chris Scott spent 5min speaking about umpires in his presser, I knew it'd be good when I saw it was 14min long.

His press conferences are always a brutal watch. The only good thing about them IMO it that he hates losing and I would rather have a coach that bitches about losing than one that just accepts it.