Autopsy AFL 2020 Second Preliminary Final - Lions v Cats Sat October 17th 7:40pm AEDT/6:40pm AEST (Gabba) Match Highlights in OP

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2020 TOYOTA AFL PREMIERSHIP
SECOND PRELIMINARY FINAL • BRISBANE V GEELONG
SATURDAY OCTOBER 17TH 7:40PM AEDT/6:40PM AEST (GABBA)


LAST TIME THEY MET ROUND 6
GEELONG 11.7.73
BRISBANE 6.10.46


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PRELIMINARY FINALS TEAMS

LIONS

B: Daniel Rich

10

Daniel Rich

Age

34

Ht

183cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.2

5star

MG

430.3

5star

D

14.9

4star

K

13.1

5star

HB

1.8

1star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.0

2star

MG

384.3

5star

D

16.2

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

5.2

5star

, D.Gardiner, Harris Andrews

31

Harris Andrews

Age

28

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

151.7

2star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

3star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

94.0

2star

HB: Z.Bailey, R.Lester, G.Birchall

C: H.McCluggage, M.Robinson, Callum Ah Chee

4

Callum Ah Chee

Age

27

Ht

183cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.9

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

0.8

3star

D

11.1

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.4

2star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

0.7

3star

D

9.4

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.8

3star

HF: D.Zorko, D.McStay, Cameron Rayner

16

Cameron Rayner

Age

25

Ht

186cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.2

2star

HB

5.2

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

11.3

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

5.5

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

3.0

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.2

4star

CL

0.4

3star

F: O.McInerney, Eric Hipwood

30

Eric Hipwood

Age

27

Ht

203cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.3

3star

G

1.5

5star

D

11.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.1

2star

G

1.1

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

8.4

4star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.4

5star

, Charlie Cameron

23

Charlie Cameron

Age

30

Ht

180cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

2star

K

7.9

3star

HB

1.7

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.2

4star

FOLL: S.Martin, J.Lyons, Lachlan Neale

I/C: J.Berry, L.McCarthy, C.Ellis-Yolmen, B.Starcevich

EMG: K.Coleman, M.Hinge, J.Payne, T.Fullarton

IN: C.Ellis-Yolmen

OUT: K.Coleman (omitted)


CATS

B: J.Henry, H.Taylor, J.Kolodjashnij

HB: L.Henderson, M.Blicavs, T.Stewart

C: M.Duncan, J.Selwood, S.Menegola

HF: L.Dahlhaus, G.Rohan, G.Miers

F: G.Ablett, T.Hawkins, S.Simpson

FOLL: R.Stanley, P.Dangerfield, C.Guthrie

I/C: J.Bews, B.Parfitt, Z.Tuohy, M.O’Connor

EMG: T.Atkins, Z.Guthrie, E.Ratugolea, B.Close

No changes

BRISBANE 6.6.42
GEELONG 11.16.82

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[M Malice]

 

[Power Raid]

Comn Lions!

Lions by a decent margin, if they get their running going and kicking straight.

 

[And_ROOS]

Massive game between Geelong at their cheat ground the Gabba, and Brisbane at their cheat ground the Gabba.

Hoping Razor "can't bounce the ****ing ball" Ray isn't the umpire for this.

Geelong and Brisbane don't tend to do shit matches, even when not close they are still entertaining.

Think this match comes down to a few factors. For Geelong, its keeping the high pressure, quick play Vs Collingwood because it gave the Pies defense no opportunities to get numbers back and Geelongs forwardline works best when they get Hawkins, Dangerfield, etc one out.
If Hawkins gets off the chain, and we see an even spread through the midfield Geelong have the players to beat Brisbane like they did earlier in the season.
If Geelong go too slow, as they did towards the end of the season, it lets teams flood and then you get results like the Richmond game where Hawkins was constantly 2 v 1.

For Brisbane, it comes down to getting Cameron in the game early, and their inaccuracy. Richmond could have pinched the QF because Brisbanes accuracy dipped badly in the second half. The last thing you can afford in a pressure Prelim Final is your forwards butchering hard earned shots at goal especially against a team like Geelong who have been a high scoring team all season. Its what killed Brisbane in 2019 and I thought it was going to cost them again V Richmond this year.

I think Geelong will win by 16, but I worry that at some point in the next 12 months Brisbane will click and start hitting the scoreboard at 55%-60%. And if they do that this week with the amount of shots they generate, theres a chance they get a big win.

 

[bungalow_bill]

To quote Bruce "acrucy acrusy acrusy"

If the Lions are firing on all cylinders should be a comfortable win. If not will be a hard slog and the Cats will be a good chance

 

[Munich]

Quietly confident but prelims are bloody hard to win.

May the best team advance and win the flag

 

[Xtreme]

Geelong by 70 points

Dangerfield to kick 6

 

[JackFlash]

Geelong are there again, amazing performance on Saturday night. I really can't see the Lions getting anywhere near them.

 

[youneverknow22]

We beat the best team in the competition a week ago, we're currently 10-0 at the gabba this year, we've had the extra weeks rest, and people think geelong will smash us. Oh well.

 

[PCORF]

I think Geelong will face a much tougher challenge in Brisbane than against Collingwood. Anybody's game, should be a beauty.

 

[NetworkNerd]

I dont think the Lions can kick a winning score against that Geelong backline with their forwards. If they are to win they will need to find goals from their mids/wings when they move forward. Cameron and Hipwood will be lucky to get 2 goals between them.

If someone like a Jarrod Berry can float forward and kick 3 and keep them in the game going into the last quarter they have a chance.

Prob 75-25 Geelongs way.

 

[Yojimbo]

Sadly for the Brisbane scouts they learnt nothing from the Geelong versus Collingwood match if you could call it a match, but equally Geelong learnt nothing from the game either as there is more contact and intent in a random game of chess. Who brings it on the night and who is just an observer which sadly happens a lot in finals will decide this one.

 

[Section 5]

Should be a good game. More experienced Cats v less experienced Lions. Can't wait to attend this game. Lions by 19+ hopefully
Geelong will have a more experienced team than the Lions next week by a fair margin assuming both teams are unchanged.
Geelong with a 160 games average to Lions 116 games not to mention a lot more finals experience.
Still 116 games experience is a good spread.

Lions have 6 players with over 150 games- Birchall 263, Martin 189, Neale 177, Rich 221, Robinson 209 & Zorko 184

Cats have 11 - Ablett 355, Blicvas 177, Dahlhaus 192, Dangerfield 267, Duncan 221, Guthrie 180, Hawkins 275, Henderson 183, Selwood 308, Taylor 278, Tuohy 203
Other stats to compare

Brisbane Lions	Average Per Game	Geelong Cats
183.5	Kicks	191.0
98.4	Handballs	121.9
281.9	Disposals	312.9
76.7	Marks	85.8
9.7	Goals	10.6
11.3	Behinds	8.5
21.0	Scoring Shots	19.1
51.9	Tackles	51.8
30.6	Hitouts	28.6
16.4	Frees For	14.9
16.3	Frees Against	17.1
6.2	Goal Assists	8.1
46.4	Inside 50s	43.0
119.1	Contested Possessions	121.0
158.9	Uncontested Possessions	189.2
196.3	Effective Disposals	225.6
69.6%	Disposal Efficiency %	72.1%
41.9	Clangers	46.1
9.7	Contested Marks	9.4
10.0	Marks Inside 50	10.6
31.8	Clearances	33.6
9.8	Centre Clearances	11.0
22.1	Stoppage Clearances	22.6
30.7	Rebound 50s	29.8
42.7	One Percenters	42.4
1.6	Bounces	2.1
1.86	Kick to Handball Ratio	1.57
46.2%	Conversion	55.5%
29.06	Disposals Per Goal	29.52
13.42	Disposals Per Scoring Shot	16.38
4778.4	Metres Gained	4649.5
56.6	Turnovers	53.7
61.2	Intercepts	55.2
9.8	Tackles Inside 50	8.9

 

[queensberryrules]

Recency Bias evident in the poll.

Lions are extremely tough to beat at home, I think they will win this game overwhelming cats with leg speed and swarming.

 

[JohnZ]

Recency Bias evident in the poll.

Lions are extremely tough to beat at home, I think they will win this game overwhelming cats with leg speed and swarming.

I agree.

Cats go to water in a prelim, predictable as

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Geelong tend not to play well after Byes so picking Brisbane

 

[queensberryrules]

I agree.

Cats go to water in a prelim, predictable as

Cats have their mojo back, I don't think they will go to water, I think it will be an excellent game. I understand Cats folk want to withhold judgement till after the PF based on previous experiences though.

 

[Rich01]

We beat the best team in the competition a week ago, we're currently 10-0 at the gabba this year, we've had the extra weeks rest, and people think geelong will smash us. Oh well.

Yep. This is Brisbane’s best shot at a flag. A weeks rest. Form side. Home ground. Win this one and they play the GF on their home deck.

They can’t give this one up.

 

[JohnZ]

Yep. This is Brisbane’s best shot at a flag. A weeks rest. Form side. Home ground. Win this one and they play the GF on their home deck.

They can’t give this one up.

Same for port.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

To quote Bruce "acrucy acrusy acrusy"

If the Lions are firing on all cylinders should be a comfortable win. If not will be a hard slog and the Cats will be a good chance

Can the Lions take advantage.. of their SHOTS!

 

[Rich01]

Same for port.

Agree.

 

[youneverknow22]

Agree.

Agreed. Brisbane and Port have been handed the perfect opportunity to win the flag this year; albiet brisbane is slightly ahead considering where the grand final is played. Both teams would be disappointed with themselves if they don't at least make the grand final this year.

 

[Rich01]

Agreed. Brisbane and Port have been handed the perfect opportunity to win the flag this year; albiet brisbane is slightly ahead considering where the grand final is played. Both teams would be disappointed with themselves if they don't at least make the grand final this year.

Circumstances have provided a magnificent opportunity for both of them. But we shouldn’t discount the quality of football they have played this year.

It’s definitely a year where both these teams are in the box seat, particularly Brisbane, to grab a flag.

 

[youneverknow22]

Circumstances have provided a magnificent opportunity for both of them. But we shouldn’t discount the quality of football they have played this year.

It’s definitely a year where both these teams are in the box seat, particularly Brisbane, to grab a flag.

I would personally be rapt to win a grand final, however, winning it after winning the wooden spoon 4 years ago and only going through 2 finals is a big ask. Even Richmond had to endure a lot of finals loses before they became the team that they are. A lot of things would have to go right for us to get there, but if ever there was a year for it, it would be this year.

 

[db26]

What's the recent record between both.To be honest both prelims toss of coin.The lions are young and hungry I think there speed can trouble cats , while cats have a ton of experience.