Play Nice 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: If you want Capitalism, you got it

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USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

Continued from Part 1 - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2024-us-presidential-election-trump-vs-harris.1383317/

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USA - Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

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< - Trump 19 is back there.

 

[stefcep]

I’d like to say it will be funny watching from afar, but if this lunatic manages to trigger World War 3, then it’s not going to help much.

Yeah coz he triggerd WW 2.5 last time so its now time for WW 3.0

 

[Financialpanther]

Deborah Conway?

Its only the beginning...…

 

[Satan]

Its only the beginning...…

Idiot Grin

 

[QuietB]

I’d like to say it will be funny watching from afar, but if this lunatic manages to trigger World War 3, then it’s not going to help much.

Would a pissant draft dodger start WWIII

The most likely war in the USA is a civil war.

 

[Demons09]

Yeah coz he triggerd WW 2.5 last time so its now time for WW 3.0

Are you saying there won’t be a WW3 , ffs i built a bunker after reading the advice of the experts on here saying Trump winning will cause a nuclear holocaust.

 

[peetoo]

Bolt obsessed with Rudd.

Fwiw trumps own v elect has said far worse than Rudd about trump

Opinion | Bolt: Forcing Rudd on Trump is a losing proposition — Herald Sun

Sending Kevin Rudd to Donald Trump to ask for favours for Australia makes about as much sense as sending a cat to a dog pound.

apple.news

 

[Present Not Past]

Yeah coz he triggerd WW 2.5 last time so its now time for WW 3.0

I must have missed World War 2.5.
Tell me all about it

 

[Present Not Past]

Would a pissant draft dodger start WWIII

The most likely war in the USA is a civil war.

Would a pissant draft dodger go on to serve two terms as US President?
Anything seems possible now.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Convictions in political show trials don't count.

getting to decide when the law matters and when it doesn't is the sign of a pissweak person of no integrity

I mean I expect it from trump but I expect better from you.

 

[Episode IV]

Then why did you ****wits commit to the peaceful transfer of power?

If it's wrong, ****ing do something about it beyond point it out with the power you possess.

Do you have any suggestions as to what that "something" might be, other than yet more litigation large segments of the American public are already (hypothetically, perhaps demonstrably) beginning to dismiss as cynical and self serving?

So we have a Democrat, in Elizabeth Warren, introducing legislation in 2010 which effectively forces all incoming Presidents to swear they'll be good folks and avoid conflicts of interest. That's nice.
Given the history of the United States in this regard, it's junk legislation. Well, not precisely, but can be viewed that way when it is selectively enforced.

Published lists of members of the US Congress and the Senate with vested interests in the arms industry will show you just how much they are invested in that industry, by way of example.
Taking a look at US foreign policy, which more recently has been effectively a matter of sending arms to beleaguered nations in order for those nations to "defend themselves" rather than sending US personal in on "peacekeeping" missions, it would seem that there are more than a few figures in US government administrations who profit very nicely from US foreign policy.
Particularly when it serves their financial interests more to keep a war going, than it does to end it.

Note that this is just an example. The range of business interests US politicians are involved in is vast. I'm using the arms industry because it's of particular relevance in the context of vested interests.
Reality is, it's about as ineffective a piece of legislation as any historical requirement to swear in a court of law that you'll tell nothing but the truth.
"Pointing it out" is about all anyone has ever done... and even then, in a partisan fashion.

Should Trump sign it? Yes, probably. If for no other reason than giving the impression of compliance - as everyone else has done.
Creating the legislation as recently as about 15 years ago and then demanding it be used for the first time against Trump now, however, smacks of being more than a little histrionic.

*edit - I noted Warren's use of the term "illegal corruption" in there. I wonder what Elizabeth thinks legal corruption would look like. Perhaps she should ask some of her friends.

 

[Episode IV]

im not trying anything, the election was lost, high profile dems are swapping sides, gotta tell you something.

If not swapping sides, actively trashing their own party. Much of which was happening months before the election itself.
Worth remembering that the Democrats sort of cancelled democracy in order to front up a candidate they thought would be best able to defend democracy. A slightly inflammatory statement, perhaps, but the Democrat handling (and in some cases actual cancellation) of their own primaries was being noted and pointed out long before the grand final.

I've been looking at the American election more and more as as shift in US political landscape which has seen the Democrat party increasingly being viewed as the establishment, and that a Democrat vote is a vote for no change rather than change.
I made a note earlier in this thread regarding Marianne Williamson's comment that presently, for Americans, a false hope might be better than no hope. Williamson is far from the only Democrat saying these things.

I've seen plenty of posts in here pointing out just how stupid the American public are purported to be. Perhaps it's time that people here in Australia (at least) commenting in this manner should open their eyes a little, widen the gaze beyond the social media nonsense, and consider that a great many of them might not be stupid at all.

 

[Crankyhawk]

If not swapping sides, actively trashing their own party. Much of which was happening months before the election itself.
Worth remembering that the Democrats sort of cancelled democracy in order to front up a candidate they thought would be best able to defend democracy. A slightly inflammatory statement, perhaps, but the Democrat handling (and in some cases actual cancellation) of their own primaries was being noted and pointed out long before the grand final.

I've been looking at the American election more and more as as shift in US political landscape which has seen the Democrat party increasingly being viewed as the establishment, and that a Democrat vote is a vote for no change rather than change.
I made a note earlier in this thread regarding Marianne Williamson's comment that presently, for Americans, a false hope might be better than no hope. Williamson is far from the only Democrat saying these things.

I've seen plenty of posts in here pointing out just how stupid the American public are purported to be. Perhaps it's time that people here in Australia (at least) commenting in this manner should open their eyes a little, widen the gaze beyond the social media nonsense, and consider that a great many of them might not be stupid at all.

We can only draw the conclusion (that they aren't stupid) IF what trump does achieves some improved outcomes or at least no significantly worse outcome. The belief, given the outcomes of the first Trump administration is that he will not.

Trumps communication style does not endear himself to most posters here. But it is undeniable that he has a strong emotional resonance with the sections of the US public that voted for him.

 

[The Dice Man]

If not swapping sides, actively trashing their own party. Much of which was happening months before the election itself.
Worth remembering that the Democrats sort of cancelled democracy in order to front up a candidate they thought would be best able to defend democracy. A slightly inflammatory statement, perhaps, but the Democrat handling (and in some cases actual cancellation) of their own primaries was being noted and pointed out long before the grand final.

I've been looking at the American election more and more as as shift in US political landscape which has seen the Democrat party increasingly being viewed as the establishment, and that a Democrat vote is a vote for no change rather than change.
I made a note earlier in this thread regarding Marianne Williamson's comment that presently, for Americans, a false hope might be better than no hope. Williamson is far from the only Democrat saying these things.

I've seen plenty of posts in here pointing out just how stupid the American public are purported to be. Perhaps it's time that people here in Australia (at least) commenting in this manner should open their eyes a little, widen the gaze beyond the social media nonsense, and consider that a great many of them might not be stupid at all.

What I find interesting is how many people, on Bigfooty alone, are so much smarter, wiser and oh so much of a better person that the most powerful politician in the world right now.

Makes me wonder why aren’t the cleverest minds in the world recruiting all these genius big brained footy posters.


Seems everyone is smarter here than the dumb Americans.

 

[peetoo]

We can only draw the conclusion (that they aren't stupid) IF what trump does achieves some improved outcomes or at least no significantly worse outcome. The belief, given the outcomes of the first Trump administration is that he will not.

Trumps communication style does not endear himself to most posters here. But it is undeniable that he has a strong emotional resonance with the sections of the US public that voted for him.

MAGA people would have already convinced themselves he will be excellent. It would take extreme information to the contrary to convince them otherwise.

And if the many failures in covid didn’t convince them, perhaps nothing will

 

[The Dice Man]

Trumps communication style does not endear himself to most posters here.

Gee I wonder why.

 

[peetoo]

What I find interesting is how many people, on Bigfooty alone, are so much smarter, wiser and oh so much of a better person that the most powerful politician in the world right now.

Makes me wonder why aren’t the cleverest minds in the world recruiting all these genius big brained footy posters.


Seems everyone is smarter here than the dumb Americans.

Let’s hope this most powerful politician gets on with the job rather than rub opponents noses in it like many many of his supporters seem to be doing

 

[The Dice Man]

Let’s hope this most powerful politician gets on with the job rather than rub opponents noses in it like many many of his supporters seem to be doing

And his opponents, and their supporters are squeaky clean in every way and are gracious in defeat.

But yes, I hope he gets on with it too.

 

[Borough Blood]

What I find interesting is how many people, on Bigfooty alone, are so much smarter, wiser and oh so much of a better person that the most powerful politician in the world right now.

Makes me wonder why aren’t the cleverest minds in the world recruiting all these genius big brained footy posters.


Seems everyone is smarter here than the dumb Americans.

You ok?

 

[Gough]

What I find interesting is how many people, on Bigfooty alone, are so much smarter, wiser and oh so much of a better person that the most powerful politician in the world right now.

Makes me wonder why aren’t the cleverest minds in the world recruiting all these genius big brained footy posters.


Seems everyone is smarter here than the dumb Americans.

I think it's more astonishment that people have ignored every standard that they would otherwise hold a person to to support Trump.

 

[Sqotty from office works]

Just saw him meet Biden.
Looks like he's wearing a corrective shoe on right foot.

 

[Chief]

presently, for Americans, a false hope might be better than no hope

Then why did they vote in Trump and Elon? Insanity.

 

[The Dice Man]

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You gonna cancel your account again soon after another hissyfit?

Pleeease, spare me. You’re a piece of butter.

 

[Royces Hart]

Just saw him meet Biden.
Looks like he's wearing a corrective shoe on right foot.

Bone spurs playing up?

 

[raskolnikov]

Just completely hypocritical of the Trumpster to talk about a smooth transition when he had a complete dummy spit when handing over to Biden.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Then why did they vote in Trump and Elon? Insanity.

They would vote for Thanos if he was running.