News 2025 St. Kilda Media Thread

[ScrappyDo]

In reference to the 'outs', Paton, Ross, Membrey, Hayes, Bonner and of course Battle, I think my point that they (excluding Battle) won't be much good for our rivals if they are retired or compromised by age etc., is pretty weak. It is like saying we are a car in a race with 17 other cars, and we removed some parts because the bearings in them are getting noisy, and they won't be much use to the other cars as spare parts, being that they are (old parts with noisy bearings'.

Our losses are our losses, period. If our players have aged and fallen off, and been cut from the list, relatively, other teams are immediately better off, unless we immediately trade in better alternatives. And we haven't. (I am not talking future potential here. I am talking from Round One where 4 points are on the table, and they can never be put back there)

That said, we had no choice, and we must evolve, and so must they. Perhaps in every other team, there are three or four who are heading downwards.

I can't argue with the logic but the maths isn't right IMHO.

We're a better side without Bonner.
Hayes was never available, so any warm fit body is an upgrade.

Gained Macrae, Boyed and Carroll.
Lost Batts, Membrey, Pato, Ross, TC, Crouch.

Pato, Ross and TC were finished at the Saints and had no currency, so at least IMO they shouldn't be counted. Crouch is a real loss but effectively out of the team for season 2024 so his value terminated at the end of season 2023.

So ATM, for players that have relevanc to our chances of winning we are better off by way of numbers, with gains concentrated in the midfield.
Losing Timmy hurts forward dept but the on-field loss is very much TBD.
Batts is a big on-field loss which we won't be able to cover for this year at least.

On balance, it's a break even at worst. The rest is down to how it unfolds.

 

[beside the seaside]

I can't argue with the logic but the maths isn't right IMHO.

We're a better side without Bonner.
Hayes was never available, so any warm fit body is an upgrade.

Gained Macrae, Boyed and Carroll.
Lost Batts, Membrey, Pato, Ross, TC, Crouch.

Pato, Ross and TC were finished at the Saints and had no currency, so at least IMO they shouldn't be counted. Crouch is a real loss but effectively out of the team for season 2024 so his value terminated at the end of season 2023.

So ATM, for players that have relevanc to our chances of winning we are better off by way of numbers, with gains concentrated in the midfield.
Losing Timmy hurts forward dept but the on-field loss is very much TBD.
Batts is a big on-field loss which we won't be able to cover for this year at least.

On balance, it's a break even at worst. The rest is down to how it unfolds.

I reckon Tim will hurt. Second half of the season he was vital. Don't think we have an obvious replacement, someone that can consistently compete like he did for us. Maybe Owens if he can find more consistent form.

 

[Nutsngum]

I reckon Tim will hurt. Second half of the season he was vital. Don't think we have an obvious replacement, someone that can consistently compete like he did for us. Maybe Owens if he can find more consistent form.

Perhaps, but second half of the season was when we were down King and both Caminiti and Sharman were inconsistent (Sharman the better of the two). King being back to his best shifts everyone down a spot and I absolutely believe that Sharman can slot into that 3rd tall role.

 

[ScrappyDo]

I reckon Tim will hurt. Second half of the season he was vital. Don't think we have an obvious replacement, someone that can consistently compete like he did for us. Maybe Owens if he can find more consistent form.

It all just depends on what they roll out with and the injuries we get.

 

[SG34]

I can't argue with the logic but the maths isn't right IMHO.

We're a better side without Bonner.
Hayes was never available, so any warm fit body is an upgrade.

Gained Macrae, Boyed and Carroll.
Lost Batts, Membrey, Pato, Ross, TC, Crouch.

Pato, Ross and TC were finished at the Saints and had no currency, so at least IMO they shouldn't be counted. Crouch is a real loss but effectively out of the team for season 2024 so his value terminated at the end of season 2023.

So ATM, for players that have relevanc to our chances of winning we are better off by way of numbers, with gains concentrated in the midfield.
Losing Timmy hurts forward dept but the on-field loss is very much TBD.
Batts is a big on-field loss which we won't be able to cover for this year at least.

On balance, it's a break even at worst. The rest is down to how it unfolds.

Bonner played 20 odd games!!

That HAS to be a loss..in terms of getting 4 points Round One..long term, agreed, no loss.

Paton was fringe but for whatever reason, ever since the broken leg wasn't the same (could be 100% coincidence). ill be interesting to see how the Swans use him.

Sharman has been disappointing, for me personally, because i had huge hopes. Maybe he can still get there.
But Membrey was even more disappointing, despite some terrific games at the very end.
As for King..we say a prayer.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Bonner played 20 odd games!!

That HAS to be a loss..in terms of getting 4 points Round One..long term, agreed, no loss.

Paton was fringe but for whatever reason, ever since the broken leg wasn't the same (could be 100% coincidence). ill be interesting to see how the Swans use him.

Sharman has been disappointing, for me personally, because i had huge hopes. Maybe he can still get there.
But Membrey was even more disappointing, despite some terrific games at the very end.
As for King..we say a prayer.

Sharman disappointing you reckon, reckon he’ll sit you on your tail this season

 

[SG34]

Sharman disappointing you reckon, reckon he’ll sit you on your tail this season

yep, hope so and let's not forget, he's been a defender too.