Prediction 2025 - Best 23 + Emergencies - Rolling

[The Bighouse]

Jordan Boyd - Jacob Weitering - Nick Haynes
Lachie Cowan - Mitch McGovern - Adam Saad
Blake Acres - Patrick Cripps - Jaxon Binns
Zac Williams - Charlie Curnow - Elijah Hollands
Jesse Motlop - Harry Mckay - Lachie Fogarty
Tom DeKoning - Sam Walsh - Adam Cerra

George Hewett - Ollie Hollands - Jagga Smith - Sam Docherty

Sub - Matt Cottrell/Cooper Lord


All I ask of Vossy... Is to FORCE JORDAN BOYD TO KICK THE BALL WHETHER HE WANTS TO OR NOT! Every kick out he can get his hands on, running by for handball receives like he's Aaron Hall during his time at North... Just get the ball in his hands please. Best kick in the back half of the field with Newman out imo and he runs past blokes where he could get a handball receive and doesn't look the slightest bit interested in it. Bizarre stuff.

Garry Charleson, meteoric rise.

 

[CJMB]

FB: Haynes Weitering Saad
HB: O.Hollands McGovern Cowan

C: Docherty Cripps Acres
R: De Koning Cerra Walsh

HF: Kemp McKay E.Hollands
FF: Motlop Curnow Williams

INT: Boyd Hewett Smith Moir

SUB: Lord

EMG: C.Durdin Binns Fogarty

Boyd in for Newman, Doc as the defensive side winger sitting ahead of back 6, Ollie high halfback, Elijah high half forward, acres does what he does.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Cowan Weitering Haynes
O Hollands McGovern Saad
Binns Cripps Acres
Motlop McKay E Hollands
Kemp Curnow Williams
De Koning Cerra Walsh

Hewett Lord Smith Silvagni

Sub: Moir

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Doch take up Nicks’ role at HB.

Ollie providing support off the bench.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Doch take up Nicks’ role at HB.

Ollie providing support off the bench.

Yeah, I forgot to put Doc in my side. He'd come in for Kemp or Lord at this stage.

 

[slider95]

Haynes becomes more important with Newman injured.... past his best but a reliable back up.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Haynes becomes more important with Newman injured.... past his best but a reliable back up.

Looking forward to seeing him play.

Unsure what he brings at this point.

 

[Bennyboy7777]

Now that Newman’s year has ended and based on training reports, here’s my revised team:

Gov Weitering Cowan

Saad Haynes O Hollands

Acres Cripps Docherty

Kemp McKay E Hollands

Motlop Curnow Williams

Foll: TDK, Walsh & Cerra

Bench: Hewett, Smith, Fogarty, Moir Sub: JSOS

Emerg: Lord, Boyd, Binns, Cottrell, Durdin, Pittonet & Wilson (don’t think you are allowed this many emergencies! )

 

[Blue and Silver]

Well now there are some wrinkles in the equation

B: Saad, Weitering, McGovern
HB: O. Hollands Haynes Cowan
C: Docherty Cripps Acres
HF: E.Hollands Curnow, Smith
F: Motlop McKay, Williams
R: De Koning, Cerra, Walsh

I/C: Hewett, Fogarty, Boyd, Kemp

S: Binns

Newman being out forces a bit more defensive flexibility into the 22

O.Hollands Doc, Boyd, Acres and Binns to rotate through Half-back and both wings playing sweeper.

Kemp as a possible swingman comes into my 22, Williams can be swung back in a pinch.

Jagga playing off half-forward but really pushing into the middle immediately as an extra mid

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[Bennyboy7777]

FB: Haynes Weitering Saad
HB: O.Hollands McGovern Cowan

C: Docherty Cripps Acres
R: De Koning Cerra Walsh

HF: Kemp McKay E.Hollands
FF: Motlop Curnow Williams

INT: Boyd Hewett Smith Moir

SUB: Lord

EMG: C.Durdin Binns Fogarty

Boyd in for Newman, Doc as the defensive side winger sitting ahead of back 6, Ollie high halfback, Elijah high half forward, acres does what he does.

Really like this lineup.

 

[Bennyboy7777]

If JSOS can come back fit and in form, I reckon he’s prob a lock for best 23. I like Big H rotating with TDK in the ruck, but if one of them gets injured during a game we are f$&#%d if we don’t have some ruck cover. Also, JSOS is so much more versatile than Pitto. Both Pitto and TDK in the starting 23 together never seems to work, historically.

 

[Arr0w]

Some good sides being shared. This is a version I believe could be selected

I'd also be interested to know what people believe our locks would be before the season has even started. Mine are bolded

Boyd Weitering McGovern
O Hollands Haynes Saad

TDK Hewett Walsh
Docherty Cripps Acres

E Hollands Curnow Motlop
Williams McKay Moir


Cowan Cerra Smith Cottrell Lord

Too early for Smith, but I do believe he could play the majority of the year, certainly has the talent to be a lock

 

[JustOneTime]

I think Motlop is a lock if fit.

 

[Sweet Seventeen]

Some good sides being shared. This is a version I believe could be selected

I'd also be interested to know what people believe our locks would be before the season has even started. Mine are bolded

Boyd Weitering McGovern
O Hollands Haynes Saad

TDK Hewett Walsh
Docherty Cripps Acres

E Hollands Curnow Motlop
Williams McKay Moir


Cowan Cerra Smith Cottrell Lord

Too early for Smith, but I do believe he could play the majority of the year, certainly has the talent to be a lock

Great side Arrow, just one query for me. Jordan Boyd I do really like, however he had a real howler of a season last year.

Yes he had injuries, so possibly this is the whole reason for his slump. Has shown previously to be an elite kicker and has

some wheels. Also a good tackler, biggest knock on him would probably be that he does not find the pill often enough.

McGov is terrible one on one, but is quick off the mark. He plays more like a small than a tall imo. If JSOS is to force his

way into our defence then he could take Boyds spot imo. But then that takes away from our rebounding abilities. Maybe it

will all depend on match ups, if we come up against a team with a tall forward line, then JSOS could be very handy.

 

[Arr0w]

Great side Arrow, just one query for me. Jordan Boyd I do really like, however he had a real howler of a season last year.

Yes he had injuries, so possibly this is the whole reason for his slump. Has shown previously to be an elite kicker and has

some wheels. Also a good tackler, biggest knock on him would probably be that he does not find the pill often enough.

Boyd played 19 games last year, but mostly more lockdown rather than rebound. Only lost 10%, 1, contested 1 on 1.

With Newman out and Cincotta missing a large chunk of the season, I'd be surprised if he wasn't in the side

McGov is terrible one on one, but is quick off the mark. He plays more like a small than a tall imo. If JSOS is to force his way into our defence then he could take Boyds spot imo. But then that takes away from our rebounding abilities.

Gov is poor with his defensive mindset, but intercepts well and generally one of our better users/distributors

Maybe it will all depend on match ups, if we come up against a team with a tall forward line, then JSOS could be very handy.

Jsos is a smart, gutsy, competitive footballer, but not sure he will succeed as a defender

Small for a genuine KPD, not athletic enough to play the 3rd tall and or interceptor

Might get the occasional good match up, but that would be rare given the composition of other teams

 

[Sweet Seventeen]

Boyd played 19 games last year, but mostly more lockdown rather than rebound. Only lost 10%, 1, contested 1 on 1.

With Newman out and Cincotta missing a large chunk of the season, I'd be surprised if he wasn't in the side


Gov is poor with his defensive mindset, but intercepts well and generally one of our better users/distributors



Jsos is a smart, gutsy, competitive footballer, but not sure he will succeed as a defender

Small for a genuine KPD, not athletic enough to play the 3rd tall and or interceptor

Might get the occasional good match up, but that would be rare given the composition of other teams

Thanks for the response. Surprised to see that he played 19 games, he did not really stand out that much to me. He is best

22, I agree. JSOS does seem to have his work cut out, will not be surprised to see him have a really good season for us all

the same.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Thanks for the response. Surprised to see that he played 19 games, he did not really stand out that much to me. He is best

22, I agree. JSOS does seem to have his work cut out, will not be surprised to see him have a really good season for us all

the same.

Boyd was fantastic in the first half of the year imo. Dropped away after the bye before getting injured but a very handy player for us.

Think he's close to a lock with Newman out now.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Boyd was fantastic in the first half of the year imo. Dropped away after the bye before getting injured but a very handy player for us.

Think he's close to a lock with Newman out now.

Issue I have the Boyd is not sure exactly what roles he plays. Hes a decent defender on smalls, but others that are better. He doesnt really intercept. He can't play taller then his height. He's reasonably quick but doesnt add alot of run.

His main weapon is his kicking so probably best suited to a distributor role but doesn't find the ball enough. Struggles to get more then 15 a game which you need to in that role. That's unlikely to change. It's rarely a skill players can learn.

I prefer Doch to replace Newman and going forward reckon Wilson goes ahead of him too. Already have Hollands and Cowan ahead of him. Hollands is able to provide run and accumulate in that distributor role, despite not being quite as good a user as Boyd, while Cowan can play taller and intercept in that more defensively minded role.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Team Update (Post Newman Injury)

B: Cowan Weitering McGovern
HB: Saad Haynes Hollands
C: Acres Cripps Binns
HF: Hollands McKay Williams
F: Moir Curnow Motlop
OB: TDK Cerra Walsh
IC: Docherty Hewett Smith Fogarty

Unlucky: Lord, Kemp, Cottrell, Silvagni

 

[carlton_99]

Issue I have the Boyd is not sure exactly what roles he plays. Hes a decent defender on smalls, but others that are better. He doesnt really intercept. He can't play taller then his height. He's reasonably quick but doesnt add alot of run.

His main weapon is his kicking so probably best suited to a distributor role but doesn't find the ball enough. Struggles to get more then 15 a game which you need to in that role. That's unlikely to change. It's rarely a skill players can learn.

I prefer Doch to replace Newman and going forward reckon Wilson goes ahead of him too. Already have Hollands and Cowan ahead of him. Hollands is able to provide run and accumulate in that distributor role, despite not being quite as good a user as Boyd, while Cowan can play taller and intercept in that more defensively minded role.

Feel like there is a very clear avenue for Boyd to get more of the ball without Newman. We should be looking for him to be our number 1 user outside of D50. I also think you have underestimated his defensive ability - it is very good for someone his size.

Having someone that can lockdown when necessary on a dangerous small and also open the field up with his kicking is hard to find.

 

[Arr0w]

Feel like there is a very clear avenue for Boyd to get more of the ball without Newman. We should be looking for him to be our number 1 user outside of D50. I also think you have underestimated his defensive ability - it is very good for someone his size.

Having someone that can lockdown when necessary on a dangerous small and also open the field up with his kicking is hard to find.

I can't think of too many league wide that excel at both lockdown and rebound/distributor.

Ash, Wilmot, McGrath Florent, NWM? They do have others to play small lockdown within their sides

At the moment I see Boyd as our best, lockdown small defender. I'd like to see him play more as a rebound/distributor, but who then plays small lockdown defender

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Issue I have the Boyd is not sure exactly what roles he plays. Hes a decent defender on smalls, but others that are better. He doesnt really intercept. He can't play taller then his height. He's reasonably quick but doesnt add alot of run.

His main weapon is his kicking so probably best suited to a distributor role but doesn't find the ball enough. Struggles to get more then 15 a game which you need to in that role. That's unlikely to change. It's rarely a skill players can learn.

I prefer Doch to replace Newman and going forward reckon Wilson goes ahead of him too. Already have Hollands and Cowan ahead of him. Hollands is able to provide run and accumulate in that distributor role, despite not being quite as good a user as Boyd, while Cowan can play taller and intercept in that more defensively minded role.

I would argue this is the key aspect here. The role is everything in todays game.

I have complained for many moons that Boyd is easily our best back half user but rarely used enough. The amount of games where he'd hit a target via kick out, do all the hard work of running to the player to support them and then just run by them and not even look for the handball receive... He'd be completely open running by Lewis Young on the mark and just let Young kick it. It was utterly infuriating.

Imo it was because he was always more focused on defending his opponent based on his assigned role. Newman played a far more freewheeling seagull role up the ground, as did Docherty before him. If you gave license for Boyd to just rack up touches and hit targets I think we'd easily be able to get him up to the 20-25 disposal range where he'd do maximum damage with his foot skills.

Its very easy to be fed the ball at half back if you're playing an unaccountable role, we'd just need to make a shift to look to get the ball in his hands more and cover him defensively like we did with Newman (who was still sound defensively when needed).

That said, I think Cowan and Hollands are far more natural accumulators as they're better in heavy traffic and better below their knees... So we may look to shift one of them into that role instead. I just think Boyd does far more damage with ball in hand at this stage.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I can't think of too many league wide that excel at both lockdown and rebound/distributor. Ash, Wilmot, McGrath Florent, NWM?

At the moment I see Boyd as our best, lockdown small defender. I'd like to see him play more as a rebound/distributor, but who then plays small lockdown defender

That's a big question mark. With Cincotta out, unless we put Cowan into a back pocket role we don't have an obvious answer to a small lockdown defender if Boyd is shifted into the seagull role. I don't think Ollie would be strong enough defensively at this stage.

 

[carlton_99]

I can't think of too many league wide that excel at both lockdown and rebound/distributor.

Ash, Wilmot, McGrath Florent, NWM? They do have others to play small lockdown within their sides

At the moment I see Boyd as our best, lockdown small defender. I'd like to see him play more as a rebound/distributor, but who then plays small lockdown defender

Yeh it is an interesting conundrum as you either go Boyd BP with more focus on defence and Cowan HB allowing him to be more a runner/distributor. Or you go the other way around. Maybe Cowan in the BP is better because he has a bit more height to intercept but can also play on the smalls. Either way there is going to be a tradeoff I guess.

I still think Boyd even in a BP role could be utilised more especially in situations WalshistheGOAT mentioned above with Young. I also used to get very frustrated when Young would have the ball and take 3 years to get back behind the mark just to kick it long. We should be looking for Boyd to run past for the quick handball and let him open the ground up with his kicking.

 

[Arr0w]

Yeh it is an interesting conundrum as you either go Boyd BP with more focus on defence and Cowan HB allowing him to be more a runner/distributor. Or you go the other way around. Maybe Cowan in the BP is better because he has a bit more height to intercept but can also play on the smalls. Either way there is going to be a tradeoff I guess.

I still think Boyd even in a BP role could be utilised more especially in situations WalshistheGOAT mentioned above with Young. I also used to get very frustrated when Young would have the ball and take 3 years to get back behind the mark just to kick it long. We should be looking for Boyd to run past for the quick handball and let him open the ground up with his kicking.

It looks like we want to use Ollie and Saad as rebounding and Gov as distributor.

Losing Newman, who also defended well, we need another distributor, which we won't find in one player, hence why I believe we need to tweak some roles

Cowan, Boyd or Haynes

Given we still need a small/medium lockdown, I'd use Cowan and Boyd as distributor

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Heres a good breakdown of Boyd, Newman, Saad etc re getting the ball in his hands more. Obviously theres more to it than just numbers, Newman was fantastic at getting himself into the right positions... But If you gave Boyd half of Newmans share of Kick-Ins, looked to feed him the ball more and allowed him to play up the ground more where he'd be more involved I could easily see him getting up around that 20-25 disposal range rather in the mid-low teens.



For comparison, a team like the WBD breakdown where they look to get the ball in Bailey Dale's hands at practically every opportunity.



And GWS another