Prediction 2024 - Best 23 + Emergencies - Rolling
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- Mar 25, 2019
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Hardest its been to pick a 23 in decades.
Kemp Weitering Boyd
Newman Gov Saad
Acres Cripps Cottrell
Fogarty Mckay E.Hollands
Martin Cripps Williams
TDK Cerra Walsh
Hewett Cincotta Cowan Motlop
Kennedy (Sub)
Kemp Weitering Boyd
Newman Gov Saad
Acres Cripps Cottrell
Fogarty Mckay E.Hollands
Martin Cripps Williams
TDK Cerra Walsh
Hewett Cincotta Cowan Motlop
Kennedy (Sub)
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What’s it going to take to beat Sydney?
Speed, running power … class …
Boyd. Weitering. Newman.
Saad. Kemp. McGovern.
Cottrell. Cripps. Acres.
Kennedy. McKay. E Hollands.
Fogarty. Curnow. Martin.
R. TDK. Cerra. Walsh.
I. Hewett. Cincotta. O Hollands. Williams.
S. Motlop.
E. Cuningham. Marchbank. Cowan. J Carroll.
Tough calls when Martin, Cottrell, Cuningham, Marchbank and Motlop are fit / play well in the twos.
Speed, running power … class …
Boyd. Weitering. Newman.
Saad. Kemp. McGovern.
Cottrell. Cripps. Acres.
Kennedy. McKay. E Hollands.
Fogarty. Curnow. Martin.
R. TDK. Cerra. Walsh.
I. Hewett. Cincotta. O Hollands. Williams.
S. Motlop.
E. Cuningham. Marchbank. Cowan. J Carroll.
Tough calls when Martin, Cottrell, Cuningham, Marchbank and Motlop are fit / play well in the twos.
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Agree with that team except that Owies is probably doing too much right to be dropped for Motlop at the moment. It will be interesting to see how that evolves.
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The question over Motlop is his endurance. Even last season when he was in form and kicking goals. Running the other way and quality in his chasing and pressure wasn't great. A lot of excitement around this preseason that he improved that, then he had a long layoff with injury. I would not be surprised if Motlop and Marchbank finish the season in the VFL and don't get a look in. Hit the preseason hard and aim for 2025. Our pressure and two way running is such a big part of our success.
ITCHY EYEBALLS
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Based on the Cats game, i can only see 2 players getting into our best side.
Cerra and Martin, for Durdin and Orazio.
Cotts, Motts and Cunners have to bide their time.
Cerra and Martin, for Durdin and Orazio.
Cotts, Motts and Cunners have to bide their time.
I think Cottrell is in once fit.
His run is so important.
ITCHY EYEBALLS
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He would be a weapon as sub...bring him on if one of the slower mids (Kennedy/Hewett) tires or Ollie runs out of legs
It's funny how things change. Start of the season I would have had Cuningham and Cottrell at half forward. Marchbank at CHB. I have none of them in the side now. Cottrell close but Cuningham nowhere near the 23. Marchbank at CHB and a fit version may well be but at this stage, Kemp and McGovern are filling this role so well.
Kemp Weitering Boyd
Saad McGovern Newman
Acres Cripps O Hollands
Cincotta McKay E Hollands
Fogarty Curnow Owies
DeKoning Walsh Kennedy
Cowan Williams Cerra Hewett
Martin
Love the midfield rotations of this side. Also love the injury cover. Lose a back, Williams and Cincotta can go there. Lose a forward, we have mids who can go forward and the sub. Lose a mid, we already have plenty of mids and forwards who can go mid.
DeKoning gives us an extra rover, he's killing it in the ruck.
Our defence has good pace and athleticism and it defends really well.
Cincotta has been a revelation, a defensive mid who kicks goals.
The half forward line has some seriously talented rotations. E Hollands, Williams and I think Cerra goes there as well coming back. We have a seriously deep midfield and those half forward options. Want good forward entries, these are the guys. Massive upgrade on Cuningham and Cottrell.
Fogarty and Owies. Underrated. Owies kicking and setting up a lot of goals. Fogarty's pressure has been good. Our forward line is just functioning.
Martin. Is there a better option for a sub on our list? Big time impact player. Comes on and changes the forward dynamics. Releases one of the forwards to another role like back or mid. Gives us options.
Some talent missing out. Pittonet is a good ruck but he only plays when DeKoning misses. McKay has actually been really good in the ruck. Motlop is further away from the best 22 than many think. He's good offensively, but his defensive game has never been great. He's still developing and needs to build his tank. Marchbank is a talented player who is missing but others have grown. Still think he pushes the 22 but not at the moment. Cuningham is nowhere near this side, even when fit. Cottrell is close but does not push any of these guys out. If he does it's Fogarty and IMO he doesn't. Hollands on the wing? I think he has got the wing now, but maybe not. Silvagni and Docherty missing the side. Not sure if Silvagni pushes anyone out. Docherty would push Hollands out.
I think we are splitting up Kennedy and Hewett properly and making both work. But we need to see this against the top sides like Sydney and Collingwood who have exploited our pace in the past. I'm not convinced yet, but so far it looks like we have things right.
Kemp Weitering Boyd
Saad McGovern Newman
Acres Cripps O Hollands
Cincotta McKay E Hollands
Fogarty Curnow Owies
DeKoning Walsh Kennedy
Cowan Williams Cerra Hewett
Martin
Love the midfield rotations of this side. Also love the injury cover. Lose a back, Williams and Cincotta can go there. Lose a forward, we have mids who can go forward and the sub. Lose a mid, we already have plenty of mids and forwards who can go mid.
DeKoning gives us an extra rover, he's killing it in the ruck.
Our defence has good pace and athleticism and it defends really well.
Cincotta has been a revelation, a defensive mid who kicks goals.
The half forward line has some seriously talented rotations. E Hollands, Williams and I think Cerra goes there as well coming back. We have a seriously deep midfield and those half forward options. Want good forward entries, these are the guys. Massive upgrade on Cuningham and Cottrell.
Fogarty and Owies. Underrated. Owies kicking and setting up a lot of goals. Fogarty's pressure has been good. Our forward line is just functioning.
Martin. Is there a better option for a sub on our list? Big time impact player. Comes on and changes the forward dynamics. Releases one of the forwards to another role like back or mid. Gives us options.
Some talent missing out. Pittonet is a good ruck but he only plays when DeKoning misses. McKay has actually been really good in the ruck. Motlop is further away from the best 22 than many think. He's good offensively, but his defensive game has never been great. He's still developing and needs to build his tank. Marchbank is a talented player who is missing but others have grown. Still think he pushes the 22 but not at the moment. Cuningham is nowhere near this side, even when fit. Cottrell is close but does not push any of these guys out. If he does it's Fogarty and IMO he doesn't. Hollands on the wing? I think he has got the wing now, but maybe not. Silvagni and Docherty missing the side. Not sure if Silvagni pushes anyone out. Docherty would push Hollands out.
I think we are splitting up Kennedy and Hewett properly and making both work. But we need to see this against the top sides like Sydney and Collingwood who have exploited our pace in the past. I'm not convinced yet, but so far it looks like we have things right.
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Kemp Weitering Boyd
Newman Mcgovern Saad
O.Hollands Cripps Acres
Fogarty Mckay E.Hollands
Martin Curnow Williams
TDK Cerra Walsh
Kennedy Cowan Cottrell Cincotta
Hewett/Owies/Motlop/Cunners as sub
Is this how we're all seeing the best 23 at this stage?
Newman Mcgovern Saad
O.Hollands Cripps Acres
Fogarty Mckay E.Hollands
Martin Curnow Williams
TDK Cerra Walsh
Kennedy Cowan Cottrell Cincotta
Hewett/Owies/Motlop/Cunners as sub
Is this how we're all seeing the best 23 at this stage?
4flagsin5yrs
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O. Hollands the most vulnerable on current form....
I know stats/numbers ain't everything, but it's pretty underwhelming imo.
- Mar 25, 2019
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Don't disagree but he's nearly always in our top runners and up there in pressure acts, plays an important role in the team even though it's not always reflected on the stats sheet. Ideally Doch would be there to cover his spot come finals if his knee wasn't stuffed.
Perhaps Cotts moves back to the wing when Martin's back in the forward line.
bradfisher14
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How did we feel about Cerra's game down back? Is it a role we should persist with regularly or a break in case of emergency option?
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Looked 1000% better on ball in the 2nd half. Would have been close to worst on ground down back in the first half which was disappointing.
If I were selecting a team for finals right now and our squad was all available I don't think he'd be in it sadly, Kennedy/Hewett in better form right now. Hopefully he can find his best form again over the next month, his best is better than Bam and Hewett imo.
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Looked lost. 100% not his spot. Would benefit from being given a role in the midfield until he can start winning his own footy.
Cincotta can play HBF. Or as a defensive forward. Or anywhere really.
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Purely need basis, waiting for Gov and Boyd to return
BluStreak
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watched Pommies pod cast and his take on Cerra was that his best is as HHF/Wing.
Cerra's best footy is as a mid.
See his 2023, where despite missing 4 games and going off injured in 2 others came 4th in the B&F.
He's just woefully out of form.
bradfisher14
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I'm praying that this is how he continues for the rest of the season.
4flagsin5yrs
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I always thought a wing(er) was a mid?
They're part of the midfield, but they're specified.
When people say "mid", they mean someone at least rotating through the centre square, as opposed to players like Acres and Ollie who are wings.
I would prefer Walsh on a wing and Cerra playing the sweeper in the middle. His vision and disposal are elite.
He can get his own ball but knows when to let the others get it first and be 1st receiver.
Cripps, George, Cerra with TDK the other.
4flagsin5yrs
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i tend to agree.
I also tend to agree. I think Walsh has struggled to adapt to the new HTB interpretation and getting him out of the crush onto a wing might help.
