Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

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Rumors from September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  Rory Sloane

  Age

  34

  Ht

  183cm

  Wt

  87kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  23.7

  5star

  K

  11.7

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  HB

  11.9

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  M

  3.5

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  T

  6.6

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  CL

  5.7

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  D

  15.3

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  K

  7.3

  3star

  HB

  8.0

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  M

  1.3

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  CL

  4.2

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  D

  22.2

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  K

  8.6

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  HB

  13.6

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  M

  3.2

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  T

  6.0

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  CL

  4.6

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  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  Clayton Oliver

  Age

  27

  Ht

  189cm

  Wt

  88kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

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  D

  27.8

  5star

  K

  9.5

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  18.4

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  M

  3.2

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  T

  6.3

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  CL

  6.3

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  D

  25.1

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  K

  11.1

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  HB

  14.0

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  M

  3.6

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  T

  5.6

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  CL

  5.9

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  D

  19.2

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  K

  4.6

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  HB

  14.6

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  M

  2.0

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  T

  4.4

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  CL

  3.8

  5star

  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumors from October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  Darcy Fogarty

  Age

  25

  Ht

  194cm

  Wt

  100kg

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  Fwd

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  8.5

  2star

  K

  5.7

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  2.8

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  3.7

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  T

  1.7

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  G

  1.2

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  D

  6.3

  1star

  K

  4.0

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  HB

  2.3

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.3

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  G

  1.0

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  D

  8.0

  2star

  K

  5.4

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  HB

  2.6

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  M

  3.4

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  T

  2.6

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  G

  1.0

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  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumors from October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumors from October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumors from October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 8

• Jon Ralph claims we are not prepared to use a future 2nd on Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 9

• Graham Wright will not join Adelaide, instead taking up the Carlton CEO role (link)
• Tom Morris claims the Peatling trade will involve future 2nd and 3rd round picks, and we have offered him a four year deal at about $600k per season (link)
• Riley Beveridge claims we asked GWS if they were interested in one of our players in the Peatling trade (link)

Rumor summary October 10

• Collingwood are interested in Justin Reid as their new head of football (link)
• GWS want our future 2nd and pick 46 for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 11

• Poster claims we are attempting to lure Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, maybe in 2025 (link)
• Tom Morris claims we will do the Peatling deal for pick 46 and a future 2nd provided there are other late pick swaps (link)

Rumor summary October 13

• Tom Morris suggests we have offered a trade involving a swap of future 2nds for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 15

• After West Coast got absolutely rogered, Cal Twomey claims we have offered either two future 3rds for Peatling, or a swap of 2nds and a future 3rd (link)
• We have interest in Sam Davidson from Richmond VFL (link)
• Mitch Cleary claims some GWS players are facing suspensions from the AFL due to behaviour at an end of season event (link)
• Brett Montgomery is staying at GWS, meaning we were unsuccessful at luring him (link)

Rumor summary October 16

• Stalemate on the Peatling trade as of 4pm, with us threatening to send him to the PSD (link)

 

[Crow till I die]

Can you imagine if Port ship Houston to North for their F1 and it ends up being pick 2 next year, they could literally be swapping Houston for Dyson Sharp.

They have Lukosius and if they beat us to Cumming, thats their Houston replacement as well. Enough to make you vomit at how well they could manage this offseason compared to us.

 

[Amacca 23]

North wouldn't be stupid enough to give up pick 2 for Houston would they?

If anything they'd trade 2 to freo for 9+10 or something right, then on trade 10 to port?

We are talking north who knows could of had reid and macdonald anything is possible with that club

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[Scorpus]

North wouldn't be stupid enough to give up pick 2 for Houston would they?

If anything they'd trade 2 to freo for 9+10 or something right, then on trade 10 to port?

North have a long history of not being able to recruit quality players. Honestly they should be trading pick 2 to bring in someone good, they've got plenty of draftees

 

[Runnin Blue]

Do have to wonder why Giants think 6 is being offered, but Port/Crows only saying 4 is

Like what’s the point?

Offers have been upped in last 24 hours is my guess.

 

[crow2crow]

Do have to wonder why Giants think 6 is being offered, but Port/Crows only saying 4 is

Like what’s the point?

so gws get better compo

 

[crow2crow]

Can you imagine if Port ship Houston to North for their F1 and it ends up being pick 2 next year, they could literally be swapping Houston for Dyson Sharp.

They have Lukosius and if they beat us to Cumming, thats their Houston replacement as well. Enough to make you vomit at how well they could manage this offseason compared to us.

losing houston is going to backfire big time. stop stressing.

cumming is not houston. i think he would help us but only because he can actually kick unlike most of our team

 

[George Kramer]

Surely to goodness we aren't really doing that

I know we lay the boots in and are probably too negative on here at times but we couldn't possibly be that incompetent

We're not giving up 25 for ANB, with Dodson projected to go around that mark.

Funny there’s been a few here defending it

 

[croweater 41]

North wouldn't be stupid enough to give up pick 2 for Houston would they?

If anything they'd trade 2 to freo for 9+10 or something right, then on trade 10 to port?

I don't think 2 gets used even in a splitting situation. North will bank that on any one of the 6-7 players that could be picked.

 

[Hodgy]

North have a long history of not being able to recruit quality players. Honestly they should be trading pick 2 to bring in someone good, they've got plenty of draftees

Agreed, If I was north or GC, with the amount of high picks they’ve been gifted in recent years, I would be looking to bring in someone like Houston at almost any price. They already have stacked midfields of young stars. The issue is more around would Houston agree.

 

[Fritz n Sauce]

People think Cumming is going to solve all our issues

He played 6 games this season due to hamstring injuries, don’t sell the farm

 

[Scorpus]

Frankly, we should be doing everything possible to strengthen our draft hand this year, not giving up picks for middling senior players. Sadly, given our re-signings/extensions so far this off season, it doesn't look like that's a focus. Many would disagree with me here, and this is nothing against the player, but I'd be looking at leveraging Rachele plus future picks for a pick inside the top 5. Two picks inside the top 5 is exactly what we need in this draft. Add ANB and Cumming to that and it's a pretty good off season.

But we won't be that aggressive, despite the rhetoric.

This is the thing that frustrates me

We have a poor record of attracting known quality players to the club. The best pathway we have to obtaining quality players is through the draft and developing those players.

Yet in many years we do nothing to strengthen our draft hand. Trading up for Curtin is one of the only times we've ever traded further up into the first round.

And in addition that, when we bring in lots of draftees that we need to have succeed, we roll out the most putrid coaching team a club could assemble. And then hold back their development by playing them out of position or not backing them in.

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

Okay this guy's making stuff up



"today's medical" he flew back to Sydney Monday night

Can't even spell 'ageees'

 

[Peter Doherty]

In a weird way, the more they give for ANB, the easier it is for them to present it as a coup.

Imagine the deal is announced and it's 25 for ANB, to the casual fan it sounds like he's a good player. Good deal.

Compare that to Adelaide giving pick 67 for ANB. Casual fan thinks, 'this guy must be shit'.

Don't put it past them.

 

[Mutineer]

Surely to goodness we aren't really doing that

I know we lay the boots in and are probably too negative on here at times but we couldn't possibly be that incompetent

We're not giving up 25 for ANB, with Dodson projected to go around that mark.

You have more confidence in me that Dodson will be there still at our pick 25 as clearly the best ruck in the class of 2024 and the U18's 2024 AA ruck.

Dodson's clearly better performed than 2 of the 3 ruckmen that went in the 1st round in 2023 and IMO and not too far off last year's AA ruck Ethan Read who was matched at Pick 9 and certainly a better prospect than Will Green pick 16 and Taylor Goad pick 20.

Also worth noting Dodson and Logan Smith (GWS Academy) are really the only 2 rucks being seriously spoken about by draft pundits. Wherever the bid comes for Logan Smith it will be matched so he's basically off the table already and given how well he played in several of his 4 VFL games I doubt it will be a late bid.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

You have more confidence in me that Dodson will be there still at our pick 25 as clearly the best ruck in the class of 2024 and the U18's 2024 AA ruck.

Dodson's clearly better performed than 2 of the 3 ruckmen that went in the 1st round in 2023 and IMO and not too far off last year's AA ruck Ethan Read who was matched at Pick 9 and certainly a better prospect than Will Green pick 16 and Taylor Goad pick 20.

Also worth noting Dodson and Logan Smith (GWS Academy) are really the only 2 rucks being seriously spoken about by draft pundits. Wherever the bid comes for Logan Smith it will be matched so he's basically off the table already and given how well he played in several of his 4 VFL games I doubt it will be a late bid.

Great, trade up from 25

But certainly don't give it away

 

[StonesThrow]

Here is the full list of players we've recruited from other clubs in the past 20 years, who were best 22 at their club and under the age of 27

Izak Rankine
Jordan Dawson
Eddie Betts
Scott Thompson

Our recruiting record is abysmal. We pick up the occasional fringe player scraps (Seedsman, Lynch, Hinge, Symes, Jacobs) but when it actually comes to recruiting best 22 players from other clubs our record is appalling

I mean two of those were very recent. Aren't we talking about our recent recruiting?

 

[Mutineer]

Great, trade up from 25

But certainly don't give it away

What are you suggesting we use to trade up?

Pick 42 won't excite too many clubs into downgrading their 1st round picks?

2025 1st round pick in play?

 

[dylan123]

In a weird way, the more they give for ANB, the easier it is for them to present it as a coup.

Imagine the deal is announced and it's 25 for ANB, to the casual fan it sounds like he's a good player. Good deal.

Compare that to Adelaide giving pick 67 for ANB. Casual fan thinks, 'this guy must be shit'.

Don't put it past them.

Why stop at 25?

 

[MRB37]

Frankly, we should be doing everything possible to strengthen our draft hand this year, not giving up picks for middling senior players. Sadly, given our re-signings/extensions so far this off season, it doesn't look like that's a focus. Many would disagree with me here, and this is nothing against the player, but I'd be looking at leveraging Rachele plus future picks for a pick inside the top 5. Two picks inside the top 5 is exactly what we need in this draft. Add ANB and Cumming to that and it's a pretty good off season.

But we won't be that aggressive, despite the rhetoric.

I'm a huge, huge fan of Rachele, but this I would actually consider only because it seems he is the type of player we can't handle personality wise and because of that we'll never get the best out of him.

May as well have another dip and find a talented player who isn't as outgoing and won't be chopped off at the knees by the conservative streak that runs through the club.

 

[dogs105]

Is Wednesday the day we hear about the mid we haven't been linked with previously??

 

[Floating Doughnut]

Is Wednesday the day we hear about the mid we haven't been linked with previously??

Peatling still hasn’t signed @ GWS that was expected when they upped their offer.
Hope we are amongst his suitors.

 

[WheresGroomgone]

Unfortunately this gamble hasn’t worked out for us over the last 10 years.

This year’s draft is an exception.

Oliver is not our answer.

 

[Thaiphoon23]

I'm a huge, huge fan of Rachele, but this I would actually consider only because it seems he is the type of player we can't handle personality wise and because of that we'll never get the best out of him.

May as well have another dip and find a talented player who isn't as outgoing and won't be chopped off at the knees by the conservative streak that runs through the club.

I disagree. Rachele has shown massive upside and people are too quick to jump on his mistakes and forget his great moments. Even if he wasn't projecting well trading him would likely also lose us soligo and nank eventually.

 

[FR0GGY]

I'm a huge, huge fan of Rachele, but this I would actually consider only because it seems he is the type of player we can't handle personality wise and because of that we'll never get the best out of him.

May as well have another dip and find a talented player who isn't as outgoing and won't be chopped off at the knees by the conservative streak that runs through the club.

Then we need to change, not ship out the talent we can’t handle.

 

[AtypicalHorse007]

New name on its way, the AFC are hunting are playing their cards well. Expect new news within 48hrs, slight delay for good causes

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