Day is a solid option, if fit, will be dangerous with a rampant midfield and rebounding defense. Can't see Day filling the second ruck void, would think Hipwood will be trained in that role for 2025 and beyond.
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I really like Krueger if he could get his body right. He has that mongrel and will compete hard.
I am a bit meh about Day. He's 32, not sure if his body will hold up - but that would be the same type of concern as Kreuger. Won't be fussed if he gets selected by us as we can quickly get him rolled off the books when next year targets become clear
Tomlinson - a flat no. He just does not have the mongrel and for some reason always looks unsure. Peak of his career was 2021 as Dees defender but unfortunately he got injured and missed out on that Premiership. No thanks.
Thanks. I used Footywire as my reference which had him as 185cm, and while they could certainly be wrong, Rookie Me Central seems to back up that stay. So who knows.
When I've watched him in the VFL he isn't what I'd describe as a pressure forward, he's more of a high marker who knows the way to goal. His statistics this season back this up, as he regularly has 7-9 marks a game and multiple goals, but never more than two tackles. I think pressure is the biggest thing he needs to work on. Craven doesn't have the same marking or scoring ability but has much better pressure.
I would agree, but we could keep both and let Prior go. Or even keep all three if we don't want any other draft prospects or academy players this time.
Perhaps, but it's worth considering how little we get our wings involved in the play, and how much we use them as a place for our extra inside midfielders to cover. Maybe that needs to adapt this year since teams will focus on countering our strengths more.
I agree with others here, I'd leave Zorko where he is, he's doing well there. Maybe Brain needs to try playing small forward.
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Sam Weideman
delisted, 27, has experience up forward? Maybe?
delisted, 27, has experience up forward? Maybe?
Frustrating player, but I think has more to give than Sam Day. Lighter build though, so doesnt necessarily solve the ruck problem like Day would.
Krueger is one of them tall forwards who goes for chest marks only, taking the ball at the lowest point as a tall forward is a no for me.
Day can take overhead grabs which is better for making contests at the least
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Makes Schache look like a fierce competitor. No thank you.
My #1 criteria for whoever we get as tall forward/ruck backup is that they have to compete in the air. We need someone who can sit under a high bomb up the wing and not just get out-positioned or out-toughed immediately.
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Kreuger also super injury prone.
He does have some good attributes so if you could be guaranteed of fitness I'd be slightly interested, but agree with you generally.
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He couldn't break into Melb or Essendon best side. Would be a downgrade on Brandon Ryan and IMO a fit Sam Day. Gives me Schache vibes and offers little imo. In essence, list spots are tight and we don't need a second Ryan.
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I feel that if the club is not looking at anyone other than, or younger than Day, it really makes me feel we have someone on the hook for the end of next year.
We don’t want to get caught with someone who is going to take money out of the cap for a Longer period of time.
If we are trying to tempt a Kreuger or Weideman to leave VIC to come up here for 1 year, we are probably kidding ourselves.
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Day is the man
I think we will be backing up the track for Oscar Allen. Will be hard to pry from Weagles though.
Also wonder if it’s worth taking two delisted spuds to assist with KPF depth. We probably need to do some list management accounting to make that work? I’m just unsure on Day ability to stay healthy.
If we grab two injury prone spuds in Day and Krueger it might be enough to have at least one fit at a time.
Also wonder if it’s worth taking two delisted spuds to assist with KPF depth. We probably need to do some list management accounting to make that work? I’m just unsure on Day ability to stay healthy.
If we grab two injury prone spuds in Day and Krueger it might be enough to have at least one fit at a time.
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Day played 20 games (I think) in 2023.
13 this year. Same injury as Choc cut his season short.
We will heal him.
13 this year. Same injury as Choc cut his season short.
We will heal him.
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Did Day’s Plantar Fascia actually snap?
Hope so, because if not, it will stay aggravated until it does.
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I remember hearing somewhere that Mcrae really rates Kreuger, bloke must be made of glass for them to delist him I reckon
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Below from an AFL article dated 9/7/24.
No mention of surgery.
He did not play at AFL level after that.
However, he returned to the VFL later
R20, he kicked 2g. 0b
Played again in a losing Wildcard final kicking 4g. 2b
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Sam Day was unable to finish the match against North Melbourne after succumbing to a plantar fascia issue in his foot.
The key forward will miss the next 4-6 weeks as he recovers.
18 games in 4 seasons. Should be fresh.
Get his foot right & he'll be good to go for another three to four seasons easy. Easy!!!
I'm 200% on board.
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Couldn’t crack in to Essendon and Melbourne who had terrible key forwards while he was there.
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Hasn’t done anything good since the 2018 finals series.
Weideman has struggled to make his mark in AFL. As top 10 key forward pick he has gotten some mileage out of that title but the show has come to an end for Sam. Bit like Pruess - promises, promises.
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This just popped up in my feed.
Thought I would share.
I miss him already!
Thought I would share.
I miss him already!
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Must suck trying to be incognito when you are 200cm+
Who could we afford in 2026?
We see it a lot in the facebook supporters groups - Let's get him, let's do a deal for him, why didn't we get him and so on to replace Joe.
The reality is whom could we afford in 2026 - For those better than I, we would have a first round pick, say 17 to 18. We could trade the next year in also so another 1st round draft pick say 17 or 18. If we don't re-sign Starc or Rayner we might get a compensation pick again end of first round pick 20.
Maybe at best we would have 2 end of first round picks in 2026 that's assuming we loose someone we don't want to, or drag a pick forward.
I wouldn't see an Oscar Allen being traded for pick 18 and pick 20 - would the Eagles do that deal?
Is there another serviceable ruck/forward being mentioned that is around that price?
I still think we are looking for an uncut diamond or breeding within with what we will realistically have to pay with, that wont damage us long term. We need another Big O that is floating around, a James Poasaidly.
That is only if we are going to keep our game plan which I actually don't, we will evolve as I dont think there is anything like a Joe out there currently.
We see it a lot in the facebook supporters groups - Let's get him, let's do a deal for him, why didn't we get him and so on to replace Joe.
The reality is whom could we afford in 2026 - For those better than I, we would have a first round pick, say 17 to 18. We could trade the next year in also so another 1st round draft pick say 17 or 18. If we don't re-sign Starc or Rayner we might get a compensation pick again end of first round pick 20.
Maybe at best we would have 2 end of first round picks in 2026 that's assuming we loose someone we don't want to, or drag a pick forward.
I wouldn't see an Oscar Allen being traded for pick 18 and pick 20 - would the Eagles do that deal?
Is there another serviceable ruck/forward being mentioned that is around that price?
I still think we are looking for an uncut diamond or breeding within with what we will realistically have to pay with, that wont damage us long term. We need another Big O that is floating around, a James Poasaidly.
That is only if we are going to keep our game plan which I actually don't, we will evolve as I dont think there is anything like a Joe out there currently.
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He's a free agent
Darcy Fogarty is a restricted free agent at the end of next year as is Tom De Koning. There is probably a couple of others.
