Position 2024 Fantasy Midfielders

[WaynesWorld19]

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[JDWCE]

What is the general consensus on a midfield structure at this stage ?

The category of players I'd say

Cat 1 - Uber Premiums - The top level midfielders that you could reliably put as skipper each week. Think Bont, Brayshaw, Merrett, Gulden type of players (900k+)
Cat 2 - Under Priced Premiums - Potential or historically premiums that are cheaper based on a poor year last year. Think Steele, LDU, Walsh, Miller (800k).
Cat 3 - High end Mid Pricers - Another step down, these players represent a little more risk but also the greatest potential upside. Think M.Crouch, Wines, Guthrie, Simpkin (600/700k).
Cat 4 - Low end Mid Pricers - Any player in between rookie price and 600k. I don't see any value in this category this year (last year there was Worpel and Callaghan)
Cat 5 - Rookies (300k or below).

At this stage my midfield is looking to be
Cat 1: 1 (M1)
Cat 2: 2/3 (M2, M3, M4)
Cat 3: 1/2 (M5)
Cat 5: 3 (M6, M7, M8)

Seems to be a lot of value on the upper priced players this year but basically nothing in that Cat 4 range. At the moment I have;
Cat 1: 2 (M1, M2)
Cat 2: 1 (M3)
Cat 3: 2 (M4, M5)
Cat 5: 3 (M6, M7, M8)

Cat 2 is the diciest position on my field. I keep rotating between Steele/Touk/LDU or just going straight up to a top guy

 

[4tune8]

What is the general consensus on a midfield structure at this stage ?

The category of players I'd say

Cat 1 - Uber Premiums - The top level midfielders that you could reliably put as skipper each week. Think Bont, Brayshaw, Merrett, Gulden type of players (900k+)
Cat 2 - Under Priced Premiums - Potential or historically premiums that are cheaper based on a poor year last year. Think Steele, LDU, Walsh, Miller (800k).
Cat 3 - High end Mid Pricers - Another step down, these players represent a little more risk but also the greatest potential upside. Think M.Crouch, Wines, Guthrie, Simpkin (600/700k).
Cat 4 - Low end Mid Pricers - Any player in between rookie price and 600k. I don't see any value in this category this year (last year there was Worpel and Callaghan)
Cat 5 - Rookies (300k or below).

At this stage my midfield is looking to be
Cat 1: 1 (M1)
Cat 2: 2/3 (M2, M3, M4)
Cat 3: 1/2 (M5)
Cat 5: 3 (M6, M7, M8)

Going by those parameters.

Cat 1: 2 (M1, M2)
Cat 2: 1 (M3)
Cat 3: 3 (M4, M5, M6) Amon is in here but will be Def come rnd 6
Cat 5: 2 (M7, M8)

 

[Barrybran]

Seems to be a lot of value on the upper priced players this year but basically nothing in that Cat 4 range. At the moment I have;
Cat 1: 2 (M1, M2)
Cat 2: 1 (M3)
Cat 3: 2 (M4, M5)
Cat 5: 3 (M6, M7, M8)

Cat 2 is the diciest position on my field. I keep rotating between Steele/Touk/LDU or just going straight up to a top guy

You're not liking Wardlaw or a certain WCE midfielder?

 

[Barrybran]

I've made teams with 5 x category 1/2 players (stupidly weak forward line) and sides with 5 x category 4/5 players. Not sure where to go. I think you can make a solid midfield without the likes of Walsh, Miller, Mills and Petracca though.

 

[JDWCE]

You're not liking Wardlaw or a certain WCE midfielder?

Playing the percentages. Wardlaw having a breakout type of season in his second year is extremely unlikely, as is any of the talented Eagles youngens. I definitely think Wardlaw improves on his price but not sure it's enough to warrant his selection.

 

[Barrybran]

Playing the percentages. Wardlaw having a breakout type of season in his second year is extremely unlikely, as is any of the talented Eagles youngens. I definitely think Wardlaw improves on his price but not sure it's enough to warrant his selection.

Even relative to defenders and forwards? Outside of rookies and Grundy, where is cash coming from next year?

 

[JDWCE]

Even relative to defenders and forwards? Outside of rookies and Grundy, where is cash coming from next year?

I think there are some great mid priced options in defence and forwards. Plus there are a huge amount of rookies available to us in the midfield that are Mid only which means selecting one of those guys over Wardlaw as they will generate a lot more cash

 

[Phar Ace]

This time last year, this was a pretty good list to start with if you could fittem in (note the figures with a strike through are season ending figures):

Short (867k) now $722k Lloyd (807k) now $754k Docherty (977k) now $867k Daniel (768k) now $667k

Steele (978k) now $825k Miller (972k) now $802k Walsh (916k) now $704k Neale (947k) now $787k JKelly (899k)now $763k McCluggage (909k) now $824k

Gawn (913k) now $853k

Taranto (846k) now $825k Macrae (916k) now $694k Parker (871k) now $701k Dunkley (963k) now $822k

15 quality players at a vastly mostly reduce cost.

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

This time last year, this was a pretty good list to start with if you could fittem in:

Short (867k) now $722k Lloyd (807k) now $754k Docherty (977k) now $867k Daniel (768k) now $667k

Steele (978k) now $825k Miller (972k) now $802k Walsh (916k) now $704k Neale (947k) now $787k JKelly (899k)now $763k McCluggage (909k) now $824k

Gawn (913k) now $853k

Taranto (846k) now $825k Macrae (916k) now $694k Parker (871k) now $701k Dunkley (963k) now $822k

15 quality players at a vastly reduce cost.

Given the increased Magic Number, even better value in reality.

I would only be confident of a bounce back from a younger player, so, Walsh, McCluggage and Taranto would be of most interest although I’ve got a good feeling about Short.

 

[JADED]

This time last year, this was a pretty good list to start with if you could fittem in:

Short (867k) now $722k Lloyd (807k) now $754k Docherty (977k) now $867k Daniel (768k) now $667k

Steele (978k) now $825k Miller (972k) now $802k Walsh (916k) now $704k Neale (947k) now $787k JKelly (899k)now $763k McCluggage (909k) now $824k

Gawn (913k) now $853k

Taranto (846k) now $825k Macrae (916k) now $694k Parker (871k) now $701k Dunkley (963k) now $822k

15 quality players at a vastly reduce cost.

Where are these players that price though?

 

[tigs2010]

Where are these players that price though?

Think Phar Ace got into the meth for NY

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

Thoughts on Ward as a third year breakout player? Has shown he can score decent from day 1 and I assume will be a key player in the hawks midfield going forward.

At that awkward price due to what sounds like a few injuries last year but can he push 95+ and breakout like Day?

 

[Barrybran]

Thoughts on Ward as a third year breakout player? Has shown he can score decent from day 1 and I assume will be a key player in the hawks midfield going forward.

At that awkward price due to what sounds like a few injuries last year but can he push 95+ and breakout like Day?

That Hawks midfield looks awfully settled...

 

[Phar Ace]

Think Phar Ace got into the meth for NY

It's the stuff you gave me - you assured me it was the best quality - worried now it was just:

Well that embarrassing - took it straight off DTLive site - not updated yet.

So here goes again - less interesting and exciting but still intriguing all the same:

Short (Start of 2023 was 867k) ended 2023 with $722k. Now $835k - Value if he starts back.
Lloyd (807k) ended with $754k. Now $810K - Showed he can still seagull a +6
Docherty (977k) ended with $867k. Now $943k - Mid only and if that's his role now he'll slip.
Daniel (768k) ended with $667k. Now $811k - Went up??? Only redeeming feature is his FWD status

Steele (978k) ended with $825k. Now $884 - definitely a watch. one bye only. Might be the cheapest we see him.
Miller (972k) ended with $802k. Now $868 - gotta be value, though the young boys are taking some touches
Walsh (916k) ended with $704k. Now $854k - I think he's cheap, just need to see his is purely mid again.
Neale (947k) ended with $787k. Now $876k - You win a brownlow and go down on value - can be a slow starter.
JKelly (899k) ended with $763k. Now $884k - Value again if you can trust his body.
McCluggage (909k) ended with $824k. Now $806k - Started slow, rich vein and then finished slow. Trust?

Gawn (913k) ended with $853k. Now $831K - The obvious alt to English / Marshall (though Nank not so bad either)

Taranto (846k) ended with $825k. Now $1.020k - Great starter but that price! No Fwd status is a killer.
Macrae (916k) ended with $694k. Now $829k - If no FWD status wouldn't be relevant.
Parker (871k) ended with $701k. Now $811k - Cheap enough. No Fwd status - watch for him Round 6
Dunkley (963k) ended with $822k. Now $942k - Again, dropped FWD status, but is a Premo pick

 

[Phar Ace]

Where are these players that price though?

My bad. Relied on what I saw at DTlive and didn't check it.

 

[Zevon]

Think Phar Ace got into the meth for NY

Don’t listen to him Phar Ace. I noticed over in the rate my team thread that tigs admitted to venturing to the North Melbourne board to do research on a player.

Clearly on something himself.

 

[Phar Ace]

Don’t listen to him Phar Ace. I noticed over in the rate my team thread that tigs admitted to venturing to the North Melbourne board to do research on a player.

Clearly on something himself.

 

[Cotchy9]

What’s the consensus on Walsh? On the surface he’s an absolute lock. But man that round 2 bye is annoying and an out off. Unsure what to do. Eat a rookie score for a week?

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

What’s the consensus on Walsh? On the surface he’s an absolute lock. But man that round 2 bye is annoying and an out off. Unsure what to do. Eat a rookie score for a week?

A no for me. Copping a potential 20-40 point score from a rookie can put you a long way behind the leaders after just 2 rounds

 

[Phar Ace]

What’s the consensus on Walsh? On the surface he’s an absolute lock. But man that round 2 bye is annoying and an out off. Unsure what to do. Eat a rookie score for a week?

Can understand if you intend having a lot of Lion's and Blues in your side - however I think we fall into the bye thinking we've experienced in the past. THERE ARE ONLY TWO TEAMS ON THAT BYE. Let's say you have two players from each of those sides (bet you don't) then you still have another 26 players to get the best 18 from.

 

[tigs2010]

A no for me. Copping a potential 20-40 point score from a rookie can put you a long way behind the leaders after just 2 rounds

You’d be pretty stiff to cop a 20-40. Would mean 5 rookies would have to score in that range.

 

[Phar Ace]

You’d be pretty stiff to cop a 20-40. Would mean 5 rookies would have to score in that range.

I'd say you would need 10 -12 rookies in your 26 available for Round 2 to get close to achieving that 20-40. Stiff is definitely the word.

 

[Shaunn]

Can understand if you intend having a lot of Lion's and Blues in your side - however I think we fall into the bye thinking we've experienced in the past. THERE ARE ONLY TWO TEAMS ON THAT BYE. Let's say you have two players from each of those sides (bet you don't) then you still have another 26 players to get the best 18 from.

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Yeah you'll have cover but you're missing out on a 800k+ premos score and fall behind the pack straight of the bat.
Flanders i think is different though, mainly because there aren't many other options at that price who present anything close to his value and hes highly owned.

I think mid prices are fine but high price players with early bye are going to be very iffy.

I can understand someone picking up a round 5 premo potentially though (Daicos) but you could go either way.

 

[Phar Ace]

Yeah you'll have cover but you're missing out on a 800k+ premos score and fall behind the pack straight of the bat.
Flanders i think is different though, mainly because there aren't many other options at that price who present anything close to his value and hes highly owned.

I think mid prices are fine but high price players with early bye are going to be very iffy.

I can understand someone picking up a round 5 premo potentially though (Daicos) but you could go either way.

Perhaps a Rounds 2&3 scores might be affected slightly, if you get a bit unlucky (what about this game isn't unlucky). Do you think Round 5/6 should be even a smaller risk as you'll have had 8 trades and still looking at just two bye teams?

What sort of difference do you think it will be - falling behind the pack 20-40pts in rounds 2 & 3, or do you think it will more and more rounds?

Still think it's a bit overstated, especially when you have opportunity benefits not even factored in to that assessment (like not having to trade said player in after the avoided player's bye - Walsh is a good example).

 

[Shaunn]

Perhaps a Rounds 2&3 scores might be affected slightly, if you get a bit unlucky (what about this game isn't unlucky). Do you think Round 5/6 should be even a smaller risk as you'll have had 8 trades and still looking at just two bye teams?

What sort of difference do you think it will be - falling behind the pack 20-40pts in rounds 2 & 3, or do you think it will more and more rounds?

Still think it's a bit overstated, especially when you have opportunity benefits not even factored in to that assessment (like not having to trade said player in after the avoided player's bye - Walsh is a good example).

I think you just fall behind 20-40 points i think? where as the later byes i guess you have more time to prepare/change if needed.
I just think it's not worth getting anyone in 2-3 byes unless they're a mid pricer (Flanders the only premo exception)

But i don't know what will be the best so i guess we'll find out/hopefully get more info .