List Mgmt. 2024 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

 

[caesar88]

I personally like the sound of Dattoli, Hannaford, Trainor and either of the Whitlocks.

Any of them along with Cochran would be a pleasing result, having only seen their highlights and read their profiles.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I personally like the sound of Dattoli, Hannaford, Trainor and either of the Whitlocks.

Any of them along with Cochran would be a pleasing result, having only seen their highlights and read their profiles.

Agree Berry looks going way higher than I had him so rule him out.

 

[Bloods86]

I personally like the sound of Dattoli, Hannaford, Trainor and either of the Whitlocks.

Any of them along with Cochran would be a pleasing result, having only seen their highlights and read their profiles.

I'd think we need a contested type KPD and KPF more than a concussion-risk Trainor and the Whitlocks. Either Whitlock is a long term prospect, probably go with Matt if we picked one and see which end he ends up at.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Just looking more into Mraz, it seems he was playing as a forward up until recently when he went into defence, and had he not been injured was probably going to go forward more this year for the Stingrays

Clubs Set Sights on Injured Prospect Noah Mraz in 2024 Draft

Noah Mraz, a promising junior from the Narre North Foxes, has emerged as a wildcard in the upcoming 2024 AFL draft, captivating the attention of clubs eager to bolster their defensive ranks.The

www.footboom1.com

Linked closely to the Sydney Swans, who currently hold picks 19, 22, 44, and 59, Mraz's fate may be impacted by the club’s likely need to sacrifice their later picks to accommodate a bid for fellow Academy player Joel Cochran.

Adding to his appeal, Mraz has increased his muscle mass by nine kilograms during his recovery, a testament to his commitment and resilience that has caught the eye of industry insiders.

Noah Mraz Draft Profile

Dandenong Stingrays tall Noah Mraz missed most of his top-age campaign, but projects as a mobile and versatile prospect.

central.rookieme.com

 

[Bloods86]

Just looking more into Mraz, it seems he was playing as a forward up until recently when he went into defence, and had he not been injured was probably going to go forward more this year for the Stingrays

Clubs Set Sights on Injured Prospect Noah Mraz in 2024 Draft

Noah Mraz, a promising junior from the Narre North Foxes, has emerged as a wildcard in the upcoming 2024 AFL draft, captivating the attention of clubs eager to bolster their defensive ranks.The

www.footboom1.com

Linked closely to the Sydney Swans, who currently hold picks 19, 22, 44, and 59, Mraz's fate may be impacted by the club’s likely need to sacrifice their later picks to accommodate a bid for fellow Academy player Joel Cochran.

Adding to his appeal, Mraz has increased his muscle mass by nine kilograms during his recovery, a testament to his commitment and resilience that has caught the eye of industry insiders.

Noah Mraz Draft Profile

Dandenong Stingrays tall Noah Mraz missed most of his top-age campaign, but projects as a mobile and versatile prospect.

central.rookieme.com

I really doubt a club makes us match Cochran before our 3rd pick ~ 40ish. The talent that's expected to still be around would likely give them pause, unless they really want a tall interceptor/wing and aren't just making us pay up.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Really like Hannaford. Goss at our second I’m okay on but I do want a key forward somewhere we can’t go into next year relying on these forwards

No key forward we draft will make a big impact next year. 2026 would be a good effort.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

No key forward we draft will make a big impact next year. 2026 would be a good effort.

That’s correct but we need to develop one and get rid of one we are playing in our top side

 

[Bandicoot]

Nah. I don't have an issue with players want to move closer to family later on, especially if they have partners or young kids. But if you're an 18 yo looking to get drafted, I'd rather know about that mindset upfront and then give them a wide berth.

It sometimes works out e.g. Wines at Port, but it's not just about how strong the club culture is.

How different things could have been in 1996 and beyond if we took on board that Anthony Rocca had no intention of staying in Sydney as he was such a mamma's boy. However, we held our ground and picked him anyway alongside Shannon Grant.
Scott Lucas was the next picked.

 

[Callipygian]

How do people rate Kevin 'Shifter' Sheehan as a judge of prospective footy players? Obviously better than most but how much attention would you pay where his draft ratings vary with the consensus elsewhere?

I had a quick squiz through his top 40 players (unranked): https://www.afl.com.au/news/1255450/kevin-sheehans-2024-telstra-afl-draft-top-40-prospects. The players he includes in his top 40 which are not consensus top 40 are:

Will Hayes

40

Will Hayes

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

8.6

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.3

5star

CL

0.9

3star

No current season stats available

D

15.8

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

7.4

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.4

3star

Sam Davidson
Hugh Boxshall
Logan Smith

None of these names are surprising (generally rated in the 40s) but probably Will Hayes

40

Will Hayes

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

8.6

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.3

5star

CL

0.9

3star

No current season stats available

D

15.8

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

7.4

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.4

3star

is the biggest bolter- he's your quintessential skinny outside flanker.

Boxshall (athletic, 187 cm mid) and Davidson (mature age 190 cm leading forward who won the Fothergill medal (VFL Rising Star equivalent)) are players I'd be happy to take with our 3rd pick (depending on who else is available). Davidson could be a great alternative to a player like Davis (who is widely rated higher) - lower ceiling, higher floor and, as a mature ager, ready to go. He's also an alternative to Josh Murphy, and a better bet. I prefer Boxshall to Ough.

By comparison, Barratt, who is another forward (194 cm) and generally rated higher, doesn't make Shifter's top 40.

Matt Whitlock/Oliver Hannaford/Sam Davidson/Luke Kennedy strikes me as an excellent draft haul. Then Cochran as a rookie. Get it done. I don't give a flying **** if our VFL team is too tall. We can recalibrate next year when half of them depart.

 

[ShireSwan]

No idea whether we want Faull or if he’s available at our selection, but if we don’t select him for that reason we are a piss weak football club

Back your culture and select the player you want/need

No means no.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

How do people rate Kevin 'Shifter' Sheehan as a judge of prospective footy players? Obviously better than most but how much attention would you pay where his draft ratings vary with the consensus elsewhere?

I had a quick squiz through his top 40 players (unranked): https://www.afl.com.au/news/1255450/kevin-sheehans-2024-telstra-afl-draft-top-40-prospects. The players he includes in his top 40 which are not consensus top 40 are:

Will Hayes
Sam Davidson
Hugh Boxshall
Logan Smith

None of these names are surprising (generally rated in the 40s) but probably Will Hayes is the biggest bolter- he's your quintessential skinny outside flanker.

Boxshall (athletic, 187 cm mid) and Davidson (mature age 190 cm leading forward who won the Fothergill medal (VFL Rising Star equivalent)) are players I'd be happy to take with our 3rd pick (depending on who else is available). Davidson could be a great alternative to a player like Davis (who is widely rated higher) - lower ceiling, higher floor and, as a mature ager, ready to go. He's also an alternative to Josh Murphy, and a better bet. I prefer Boxshall to Ough.

By comparison, Barratt, who is another forward (194 cm) and generally rated higher, doesn't make Shifter's top 40.

Matt Whitlock/Oliver Hannaford/Sam Davidson/Luke Kennedy strikes me as an excellent draft haul. Then Cochran as a rookie. Get it done. I don't give a flying **** if our VFL team is too tall. We can recalibrate next year when half of them depart.

Problem I have with Shifter is he thinks every player doesn’t have a weakness he’s okay but I never look into the player types he lists every mid is the next Ablett

 

[ShireSwan]

So who is the Dusty Martin we should get

Hynes

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Hynes

My one hope is someone takes that bloke before us

 

[Bloods86]

My one hope is someone takes that bloke before us

Yeah, us at 22, before our pick at 26

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Yeah, us at 22, before our pick at 26

Hopefully Richmond take him

 

[tombomb]

Cal Twomey's Phantom Draft: Top 30, late picks, whispers

Who will your club take in this year's AFL Draft? Our guru makes the call

www.afl.com.au

Faull and Hannaford.

 

[bedford]

Hopefully Richmond take him

700 lead , HOF coming up

 

[Kbroome]

Cal Twomey's Phantom Draft: Top 30, late picks, whispers

Who will your club take in this year's AFL Draft? Our guru makes the call

www.afl.com.au

Twomey has us taking Faull and Hannaford

So much for Faull not wanting to go outside Victoria rumours

 

[Callipygian]

Problem I have with Shifter is he thinks every player doesn’t have a weakness he’s okay but I never look into the player types he lists every mid is the next Ablett

I agree he's charitable in his assessments, and he won't provide rankings. However with his top 40 it's revealing who's in and who's out and does give an idea of who he rates, at least at that part of the draft. And he's very experienced, knowledgeable and a seemingly nice guy.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I agree he's charitable in his assessments, and he won't provide rankings. However with his top 40 it's revealing who's in and who's out and does give an idea of who he rates, at least at that part of the draft. And he's very experienced, knowledgeable and a seemingly nice guy.

Nice guy for sure and his pure rankings are fine just can’t stand his comparisons

 

[LukeParkerno1]

700 lead , HOF coming up

You can still get the Bronze medal

 

[bedford]

I agree he's charitable in his assessments, and he won't provide rankings. However with his top 40 it's revealing who's in and who's out and does give an idea of who he rates, at least at that part of the draft. And he's very experienced, knowledgeable and a seemingly nice guy.

AND he goes and watches , not like the 2 in the Herald Sun

 

[bedford]

You can still get the Bronze medal

Impossible

 

[bedford]

New thread Thursday night , post daft

 

[LukeParkerno1]

New thread Thursday night , post daft

Still rookie and supplemental draft to come rookie might be important for us. Hoping Cochran lasts till then