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Which realistically available player SHOULD we pick at #4?

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Certainly would have taken Dodson before Welsh which was how it ended ie one or the other

Obvs it shouldn’t have got to that as we should have had another list spot and taken both

Didn't you have him as pick 18 in late September? Thats an absolute slide to 53 - any reason why you think he went from a clear top 30 pick all the way down in less than 8 weeks?

Interesting to also see that only 3 pure ruckman were taken in this draft. Pick 52, 53 and 76. Its almost, almost, almost like ruckman are becoming less and less important every year.
 
Didn't you have him as pick 18 in late September? Thats an absolute slide to 53 - any reason why you think he went from a clear top 30 pick all the way down in less than 8 weeks?

Interesting to also see that only 3 pure ruckman were taken in this draft. Pick 52, 53 and 76. Its almost, almost, almost like ruckman are becoming less and less important every year.

I think too many people have jumped off Welsh without understanding his season in context. Most KPPs drafted early played against kids all season. Welsh played several Sanfl games this year and he dominated in some of the state games. He would have been tasked with working on areas of his game which would have affected his natural style. So some of his games probably didnt live up to expectation. He isnt just going to star at Sanfl level against fully developed men.
 
I think too many people have jumped off Welsh without understanding his season in context. Most KPPs drafted early played against kids all season. Welsh played several Sanfl games this year and he dominated in some of the state games. He would have been tasked with working on areas of his game which would have affected his natural style. So some of his games probably didnt live up to expectation. He isnt just going to star at Sanfl level against fully developed men.

My above post was related to Dodson - not Welsh.
 
Didn't you have him as pick 18 in late September? Thats an absolute slide to 53 - any reason why you think he went from a clear top 30 pick all the way down in less than 8 weeks?

Interesting to also see that only 3 pure ruckman were taken in this draft. Pick 52, 53 and 76. Its almost, almost, almost like ruckman are becoming less and less important every year.
They are less important for the actual art of rucking, which makes players like Dodson who gets midfielder possession numbers (albeit at junior level) all the more valuable.

Think no one's prepared to spend an early pick for a player that, if they do turn out to be any good, could take half a decade or more to be ready.
 
Didn't you have him as pick 18 in late September? Thats an absolute slide to 53 - any reason why you think he went from a clear top 30 pick all the way down in less than 8 weeks?

Interesting to also see that only 3 pure ruckman were taken in this draft. Pick 52, 53 and 76. Its almost, almost, almost like ruckman are becoming less and less important every year.
Yeah clubs are off taking 18 yo rucks , Logan smith is great and he went last pick with no bids

But poster on here mentioned some off field incident re Dodson which I believe as it was a wild drift . Knew something was up when Geelong took his Sturt lesser teammate the pick before as a ruck
 

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I think too many people have jumped off Welsh without understanding his season in context. Most KPPs drafted early played against kids all season. Welsh played several Sanfl games this year and he dominated in some of the state games. He would have been tasked with working on areas of his game which would have affected his natural style. So some of his games probably didnt live up to expectation. He isnt just going to star at Sanfl level against fully developed men.
The context is that he clearly took the piss with his preparation/standards/attitude. His fitness went backwards in an elite environment. An indictment on him and the club.
 
Yeah clubs are off taking 18 yo rucks , Logan smith is great and he went last pick with no bids

But poster on here mentioned some off field incident re Dodson which I believe as it was a wild drift . Knew something was up when Geelong took his Sturt lesser teammate the pick before as a ruck
Maybe clubs already have young developing rucks on their lists?
 
Jacob Sheean any chance?
Did get a state combine invite but I personally doubt it.

IMO the best prospect still available is Ruck/Forward Floyd Burmeister but he'd be a slow burn, unbelievable athletic profile with his speed and leap but very raw and needs some serious time to build his physique. KPF Gabriel Stumpf another with a really exciting athletic profile another you'd think would be a good rookie shot.

SA lad Jacob Newton looks to have all the tools to make it at AFL level to my eye so I hope he gets a rookie spot somewhere, really like the cut of his jib.
 
The context is that he clearly took the piss with his preparation/standards/attitude. His fitness went backwards in an elite environment. An indictment on him and the club.
But if you're the Crows. At the end of the season (a big one for a 17 y.o) are you telling him to get as fit as possible and smash the draft combine or are you telling him to have a bit of a break, bulk up and we will pick him regardless?

I know which I'd prefer.
 
Did get a state combine invite but I personally doubt it.

IMO the best prospect still available is Ruck/Forward Floyd Burmeister but he'd be a slow burn, unbelievable athletic profile with his speed and leap but very raw and needs some serious time to build his physique. KPF Gabriel Stumpf another with a really exciting athletic profile another you'd think would be a good rookie shot.

SA lad Jacob Newton looks to have all the tools to make it at AFL level to my eye so I hope he gets a rookie spot somewhere, really like the cut of his jib.
Thanks.

How do they establish who to invite for the combine? Are a lot of players invited but not go?

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The context is that he clearly took the piss with his preparation/standards/attitude. His fitness went backwards in an elite environment. An indictment on him and the club.
Maybe we just did an excellent job of keeping him out of the first couple of rounds of the draft. Certainly no one SA side was talking him up before the draft, probably not a coincidence.

Before we get too worked up about a draftee we basically got for free, let's look at the facts:

Played SANFL against men most of the year.
Kicked 5 goals in an SANFL game a few days after his 18th birthday.
Leading goal kicker for SA at the national champs, despite being stuck out in a pocket.
Ran a 3.06 20m sprint - around the same time as a lot of mids including Jagga Smith.
Finished 3rd in the vertical jump.

So it's doomsday because he didn't do a fast 2km? Not the first key forward to struggle in that event.

He's quick off the mark, has excellent leading patterns and can kick goals from outside 50m. He has at least a couple of years to work on his aerobic fitness before he's expected to be a factor at AFL level. Think he's going to be ok. If he's not, we used pick 59 on him.
 
But if you're the Crows. At the end of the season (a big one for a 17 y.o) are you telling him to get as fit as possible and smash the draft combine or are you telling him to have a bit of a break, bulk up and we will pick him regardless?

I know which I'd prefer.
Agree. He looks strong and well fed. He will look more "cut" after the preseason - and I'm sure he will have a good preseason. I don't understand the panic. "Indictment" this, "took the piss" that - give him 6-12 months he will be great. He's a nice mark, a beautiful kick and his 20m sprint looks great. Having him turn up emaciated and running middle distance would make no sense.
 
Just a Draft comment ….. it always amazes me Clubs who end up with multiple picks late in Drafts

ESS have been notorious culprits …. COLL and WB in this draft
You invariably end up with list cloggers

To our credit, whilst we don’t take large numbers of draftees usually …. we don’t take large numbers of draft backend players like others
 

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