Preview 2023 National Draft Preview Thread [currently: #2, #14 (PA), #19 (PP) #40, #52, #60]

[chubbspeterson]

The interesting thing is our MSD pick didn't get out until the very last minute. Wouldn't surprise me if we're linked to a player in the lead up to get another team to bite on trading up for 2 or 3 and we still end up with who we really want in the end.

 

[KangaRooster]

I think Wet Toast think they can take Reid & Curtain with one pick !

Makes sense.

 

[munsonned]

What about Trading #11 and our F1st for GC pick#5...Tempting or not?

Wouldn't be appealing to the Suns as they are looking for Max points this year. Would need to be 11 & 14 or similar to trump some of the other offers (unless we agree not to bid on Walter in the first few picks)

 

[R00StaR]

Wouldn't be appealing to the Suns as they are looking for Max points this year. Would need to be 11 & 14 or similar to trump some of the other offers (unless we agree not to bid on Walter in the first few picks)

What about 14, 19(via WC), 39 (2555 pts) to GC for pick 4 and 28 (2711 pts)
We'd on trade 4 to WC for 1 and other pick swaps, but means North and WC have the top 4 picks and can let Walter slide to at least pick 5 saving GC 630 pts.

 

[kool kangas]

Wouldn't be appealing to the Suns as they are looking for Max points this year. Would need to be 11 & 14 or similar to trump some of the other offers (unless we agree not to bid on Walter in the first few picks)

so we trade out #11 and #14 for GC #4 (5) and end up with #2,#3,#4 (5)..Sounds good for me...

 

[The_General#1]

Pick #21:

Am I reading the downside to the agreement wrong? I'd rather be a rnd 2 + pick than a rnd 1 pick. Yes I know rnd 1 picks usually get me coin on their second contract but under this scenario if your a rnd 2+ pick and you're flying, when given you're second contract u will potentially be better off than a higher pick who will still be on the base + matchies.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

so we trade out #11 and #14 for GC #4 (5) and end up with #2,#3,#4 (5)..Sounds good for me...

2, 3 and 5. It's only 4 now because the FA window hasn't opened.

 

[R00StaR]

so we trade out #11 and #14 for GC #4 (5) and end up with #2,#3,#4 (5)..Sounds good for me...

Too much, we're saving them 630pts not bidding on Walter in the top 4 and in that trade we're giving them 400 additional points.

Unless WC bid on him at 1 which GC might well let them have him, allowing us Reid and Curtin at 2 and 3. Unlikely they'd risk it, so only North can save GC that 630pts. It would be foolish for North and GC not to work something out.

 

[4cunningTonneTruck]

Are west coast a realistic chance they take Curtin with pick 1?

No chance. VIC club fans saying that are delusional

 

[Harris 10]

If we can't do a deal for the GC pick then I'd look at trying to get the GWS pick.

Something pike pick 11(or Port pick) for 6 and Haynes with us taking the full salary.

If GWS can get Haynes salary of their books it allows them to bring $1.2 mil of cap forward.

 

[munsonned]

What about 14, 19(via WC), 39 (2555 pts) to GC for pick 4 and 28 (2711 pts)
We'd on trade 4 to WC for 1 and other pick swaps, but means North and WC have the top 4 picks and can let Walter slide to at least pick 5 saving GC 630 pts.

Sounds Ok im theory but the complex trades often fall over. Also hearing that Bulldogs, Crows and Demons would outdo it on points and Suns only care about the points.

 

[R00StaR]

Sounds Ok im theory but the complex trades often fall over. Also hearing that Bulldogs, Crows and Demons would outdo it on points and Suns only care about the points.

But It would have to be way over our offer or we bid on him at 2. Means its costs you 2517pts, but if we have 2, 3 we can let him slide to pick 4 which is 2034pt (Hawthorns pick). You'd have pick 5 after we get 3 which is worth 1878 which is a 638pt saving that North and GC can share in a deal.

Edit: If we deal just with GC and forget WC. Pick 12, 15 for pick 4 (5) and 28 (29) would be about right. Ensure GC the capital to take Walter at 4 with a little dollop of pts to spare.

Then we target Haynes and GWS pick 6(7) somehow, even with future picks. Leaving us 2,3, 5 and 7. Taking 4 of Curtin, McKercher, Watson, Caddy and O'Sullivan. Cupboard bare for next year, but plenty of youth to work with so who cares.

 

[ferball]

Yeah I remember.

Fair enough. You've been consistent on how good Reid is for as long as i can remember this year.

 

[JGreezy]

My worry with Shoenmaker is he a bit of a Trent McKenzie? Can't really play on the bigs and not quick but good kick.

Mckenzie is a chance to be a 200 gamer and maybe even 250 if he didn't have so many injury issues.

 

[ferball]

He looks like Scrimshaw 2.0 (i.e a tall HBF) rather than a genuine KPD though.

Isn't this how its going tho? The best backs are all marking interceptors rather than KPDs.

 

[Sphynx]

Isn't this how its going tho? The best backs are all marking interceptors rather than KPDs.

Scrimshaw isn't even a marking intercepter though, which was why I compared him to him.

He's a tall half back flanker that gets it 25 times a game and kicks long.

Basically what McDonald thinks he is.

 

[DuckYeah]

He looks like Scrimshaw 2.0 (i.e a tall HBF) rather than a genuine KPD though.

He’s been touted as a Sicily 2.0 not scrimshaw

 

[Sphynx]

He’s been touted as a Sicily 2.0 not scrimshaw

He's not Sicily in the NAB League.

He doesn't intercept much at all.

Scrimshaw is my comparison for him.

 

[R00StaR]

He's not Sicily in the NAB League.

He doesn't intercept much at all.

Scrimshaw is my comparison for him.

Im confident Curtin can add it to his game, should WC not deal.

 

[ferball]

Scrimshaw isn't even a marking intercepter though, which was why I compared him to him.

He's a tall half back flanker that gets it 25 times a game and kicks long.

Basically what McDonald thinks he is.

Yeah i read that as Sicily actually. Didn't even think of Scrimshaw.

 

[ferball]

Also ... GC have 34, we have 39 and 59.

They have 28, we have 34, 39 and 59.

Both of those trades give them a few more points to blow on picks and we have done well recently drafting players in that 30-40 range, which is where their picks would end up if we got them.

So even 4 and 28 for any combination of our late picks plus 11 and 14 could provide us with something worthwhile in the second round and give them enough points that they can pick later in this draft or get their entire academy and not go into deficit next year.

Tho personally I'd prefer 2, 3, 11 and 14 (even tho i know we only have picks 2 and 14 right now.)

 

[giantroo]

 

[DaveyBoy123]

About time!

Now we just need to leak out a few rumours about him & watch him slide all the way down to pick 40+!

 

[shinboner magic]

Pack of w***ers

 

[Garibaldi82]

How were we able to match Thomas' bid at #8?
I'm assuming they changed the rules after that?