List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Thread - Part III

[SaintsSeptember]

Doesn’t need to beat him outright.

Just block, niggle, harass.

Generally get in his way and be a nuisance.

I reckon he’s down for that

Sounds like my ex could do it without trying.

 

[DougalHoward]

Matt Rendell doing st kilda's list next on trade radio

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Got to develop our own players and stop taking the crap from other clubs. It's laughable how we accept these spuds and make up excuses for why we do it. Get them young and develop them. If we have to go back before going forward then do it. Shoukld drop the moniker Saints and become the StKilda Bin Chickens. *n Cordy.

Issue is that we can’t structure our list properly or identify talent sufficiently so that we constantly need to plug short term holes with spuds. Once you add up all these cloggers over time that’s a lot of late stabs that we could have had at untapped youngsters or state leaguers.

 

[Max the great]

I understand your point. Still, using Joyce as your argument doesn't stack up as he had no place on an AFL list. I don't want a list clogger like Cordy either yet he has a small amount of value in a seniors team. Like you though, that doesn't make him a good pickup even for depth. There is a better option out there, Phillips.

I'm not necessarily using Joyce. I'm saying getting players in that are on the same level or slightly better is hardly smart.
I'm more on the larger point that people saying that getting these type of players in doesn't hurt us is completely wrong.
Some of the bums we have brought in have hurt us dearly. We are a mediocre to bad side because we keep recruiting mediocre to bad players. Sets a standard.

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[SaintsSeptember]

Weids could be good. Pretty easy to turn a failed forward into a good backman

When its our failed forward.

 

[snails13]

Nah you still have to pay their wages

Agree with that but how do they get on a list

 

[bergholt]

Agree with that but how do they get on a list

I mean you just sign them, if they agree to play for you and you have an empty list spot and it's in the DFA period then you can sign any delisted player and they go straight onto your list

 

[austinnn]

Yep, same age as Joyce.

We've replaced Joyce with someone just like him.

On the face of it I agree, but if we we pick up Cordy for a similar wage to that which Joyce was on then at least with this replacement there is AFL premiership experience or at least AFL finals experience and also for what it's worth, the IP of a rival.

 

[#gosaintas]

Your alternative?

Recruit young from the state leagues (like with Wilkie) to plug that kind of depth. Why get a guy we already know is rubbish. List spots shouldn't be thrown around like confetti.

 

[Max the great]

Issue is that we can’t structure our list properly or identify talent sufficiently so that we constantly need to plug short term holes with spuds. Once you add up all these cloggers over time that’s a lot of late stabs that we could have had at untapped youngsters or state leaguers.

Tommy Wigs knows.

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[Veer Right]

I'm not necessarily using Joyce. I'm saying getting players in that are on the same level or slightly better is hardly smart.
I'm more on the larger point that people saying that getting these type of players in doesn't hurt us is completely wrong.
Some of the bums we have brought in have hurt us dearly. We are a mediocre to bad side because we keep recruiting mediocre to bad players. Sets a standard.

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[#gosaintas]

Tommy Wigs knows.

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He's 100% spot on

 

[Drop Kick]

Sinclair Howard Wilkie
Clark Hartigan Cordy
Wood Steele Hill
Weideman Membrey Billings
Higgins King Butler

Marshall Jones Ross

Dixon Windhager Wanganeen-Milera Coffield

What a crew is all I can say, look out Geelong!

That team could easily win us spoon No.28, look on the bright side, we'd get pick 1 in the draft to use on the best half back flanker.

 

[Max the great]

On the face of it I agree, but if we we pick up Cordy for a similar wage to that which Joyce was on then at least with this replacement there is premiership experience and finals experience and also for what it's worth the IP of a rival.

He is experienced at sucking at football and will continue to do so.

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[bergholt]

Issue is that we can’t structure our list properly or identify talent sufficiently so that we constantly need to plug short term holes with spuds. Once you add up all these cloggers over time that’s a lot of late stabs that we could have had at untapped youngsters or state leaguers.

Spot on. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

Are all the players taken after pick 50 going to be stars? No. Are some of them? Yes.

If we're grabbing guys we know won't be in our next premiership side then we're missing an opportunity to maybe get a guy who will.

 

[DougalHoward]

Matt Rendell doing st kilda's list next on trade radio

he's a bit worried about the saints

 

[Veer Right]

That team could easily win us spoon No.28, look on the bright side, we'd get pick 1 in the draft to use on the best half back flanker.

Next year is the year to tank if you are going to do it. Harley Reid will be a showstopper!

 

[bergholt]

he's a bit worried about the saints

Didn't both of these guys work for the Saints once upon a time? SOS and Rendell?

 

[Diehard Saint]

North's assistance picks gone so if things change again and Clark gets traded, it won't be for that future 2nd as was speculated.

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I reckon he’ll be staying anyway.

 

[Groater]

Ratts may like as it as it could improve us short term and give him less pressure to keep his job

Long term though we aren't going to push for a flag unless we get the next crop of mids playing quality footy

Not sure why we wouldn't back our kids and expect to see improvement?

I'm not too keen on it myself, but given the track record in recent years of recruitment, selection and match day structures it would be par for the course. Ross on a HBF, Crouch on a HFF, Steele and Mitchell in the guts, Owens and Windy rotating between forward pocket, wing and bench - it's sooo true to form.

 

[dudeintheswamp]

he's a bit worried about the saints

Me too.

 

[bergholt]

Did Rendell just call him "Kunter Clark"?

 

[Geary Is GOAT]

Matt Rendell doing st kilda's list next on trade radio

Right off the bat 'No one had Billings at 3'

campaigner, everyone had Billings at 3.

 

[Yawkey way]

How did his season go? you can't really tell from stats with defenders.

South Adelaide - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

Probably better than Adams ( who is listed as a ruck on the Saints web site ) , I'm guessing.

I like adams.

 

[Diehard Saint]

At least he's a mad campaigner, coming to the Saints a month after this;

Mad Monday chaos as Bulldogs star Zaine Cordy is CARRIED to a taxi

The Western Bulldogs washed down the disappointment for their dramatic elimination final loss against Fremantle with a Mad Monday session.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Well, we said we didn’t want choirboys…..