1st Test Border Gavaskar Trophy November 22-26 1350hrs @ Perth Stadium

[Nuggetz]

Should pitches be flatter to help the batsmen and have some chance of future matches lasting past day 4?

 

[western royboy]

Holding’s nick name of whispering death is still the best in cricket

Arguably the most fluent run up and action ever

 

[Gough]

And so many more who just happened to be around at the wrong time. Sylvester Clark, Ezra Moseley was a gun bowler, Wayne Daniel’s played back up a bit. It was just one after another. Played against many of them in Pennants in WA and league cricket in England. Not always an enjoyable experience.

Moseley was the only rebel tourist to play for the West Indies again after the tours were over and the bans lifted. Compared to the English and Australian rebels those guys paid one hell of a cost.

 

[western royboy]

Moseley was the only rebel tourist to play for the West Indies again after the tours were over and the bans lifted. Compared to the English and Australian rebels those guys paid one hell of a cost.

Breaking the apartheid ban was a big thing in the West Indies, destroyed lots of them

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Breaking the apartheid ban was a big thing in the West Indies, destroyed lots of them

Richard Austin.

 

[hawkman]

The ball tends to look like that when it hasn’t been hit off the square much.

Plus grass on the wicket and no used wickets in the square

 

[western royboy]

Richard Austin.

David Murray

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Adelaide is day/night and there hasn't been many draws in the last 30 years.

Luckily Shane Warne came on the scene after 7 or 8 draws in the 80's and early 90's as Les Burdett decided to make sure the pitch would crumble days 4 and 5, after a decade of building rock hard roads.

Damien Hough produced good wickets before the drop in pitches and after a couple of tests where he had to learn how they would react, has produced plenty of good test pitches.

I reckon a couple of tests against South Africa have been a draw, late 90's when Hansie cracked the shits on a couple of not out decisions when they were trying to win on day 5, and think it was Mark Waugh got the benefit and made a ton and saved the game for Oz, and du Plessis and de Villers batted and batted to save a test and the test v india in 2008 when 6 or 7 big hundreds were scored and India batted slowly.

I don't think a day/night test has been drawn anywhere they have been played around the world.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Adelaide is day/night and there hasn't been many draws in the last 30 years.

Declarations and day night mask how much of a road it is.

 

[FullyBigKPro]

Did you even read my post? There can be quality bowling amongst a couple of poor shots, that’s cricket. Given both sides have struggled it’s clearly not been an easy day for batting for whatever reason.

The problem with this forum is that it has to be one extreme or the other, sometimes there can just be days where bowlers dominate, it doesn’t mean the batsmen all played poor shots and are cooked at this level.

 

[Gough]

Breaking the apartheid ban was a big thing in the West Indies, destroyed lots of them

Those poor buggers copped it from everyone at the time and it was grossly unfair. As mostly second string West Indian cricketers they were barely earning a living and trying to set themselves up but because they were black they got judged more harshly than the English and Australian sides who already earned decent coin but took the Krugerrand anyway.

 

[Redline]

Should pitches be flatter to help the batsmen and have some chance of future matches lasting past day 4?

I loved the days Cricket, give me that over a first innings score of 500 declared any day.

 

[chriso11]

Just can't agree with this. Disastrous innings. At number 3, you need to take charge or at least give the bowler something to think about. He let them walk all over him. Well past his best and change is needed.

Agree I think he should be dropped to find form for his own sake. Still had something to offer but he needs to rediscover his confidence

 

[Rookie]

What a display from Bumrah, and some handy backup from Siraj and Rana. We are very fortunate Shami's injured.

Hopefully Carey can get us back into it - another 50 runs would be gold.

 

[gtrxuone]

I loved the days Cricket, give me that over a first innings score of 500 declared any day.

Agreed its a contest between bat and ball.Field placements and finding the gaps in the field.
Its not T20 its test cricket.Its not all about batsman dominating.
Like last year Ashes that was a well balanced bat vs ball contest

 

[big_e]

Should pitches be flatter to help the batsmen and have some chance of future matches lasting past day 4?

Nothing wrong with the pitch today. It was simply world-class bowling to batters either new at this level or woefully out of form.

 

[Kram]

i played a heap of test cricket

shane warne cricket 99

I rented the only copy of that at the local video store when I was a kid when it was new. And then when my best mate came around and knocked on the door I pretended I wasn't home just because I wanted to spend all day playing it myself.

 

[Lunchtime]

Some of the players currently playing Sheffield Shield are very very average.
Unfortunately in recent times the only potential superstar was Will Pucovski.

Australian cricket hasn't been strong depthwise for at least a decade..

 

[Lunchtime]

Nothing wrong with the pitch today. It was simply world-class bowling to batters either new at this level or woefully out of form.

Or who can't handle a deck with some life in it

 

[Westend]

India have a patched up team and playing in foreign conditions ....so to get to 150 I can understand

but for Australia in there own backyard to be 7/67 off 27 overs is a disgrace

Australia has to get us close as they can to 150 tomorrow even then.....if India get a lead of 200 plus which I think they will.....I can't see Australia batting/chasing that down.

With the form of our top six atm going to be very hard .....hope to be proven wrong but I just can't see it atm

Ussie looks old
Mcsweeney Raw
Marnus .....cant even lay bat on ball....the bronx cheer today in the stands when he hit one said it all ...F**king embarrisng
Smudge...loves kicking the ball instead of using the bat
Head Mitch not enough cricket

Carey the only one in form ...fingers crossed he can kick on tomorrow

 

[The 4th Horseman]

The bigfooty cricket board brains trust out in full force once again.

One bad batting performance at the start of the series and the sky is falling.

Half the top order needs to be put out to pasture, Head is a T20 player, etc etc.

The same mongoes were probably saying it would be a 5-0 whitewash when India was rolled for 150.

Never change, bigfooty cricket board, you loveable bunch of emotionally charged yo-yo fools

Before sitting on the high horse, this isn't exactly just one bad batting performance so for the people here that are understandably angry, the emotions are justified. This goes further beyond today.

Only day one and I am still optimistic that we can get close to the Indian first innings score, bowl well again and chase it down. However, I wouldn't be sitting there thinking that the cause of concern is ludicrous because the evidence is building.

 

[Westend]

Before sitting on the high horse, this isn't exactly just one bad batting performance so for the people here that are understandably angry, the emotions are justified. This goes further beyond today.

Only day one and I am still optimistic that we can get close to the Indian first innings score, bowl well again and chase it down. However, I wouldn't be sitting there thinking that the cause of concern is ludicrous because the evidence is building.

yup agreed

 

[010203]

Marnus's strike rate of 3.84 for his time at the crease today is the lowest of any Australian batsman who faced at least 50 balls in their innings.

 

[Saint12]

And so many more who just happened to be around at the wrong time. Sylvester Clark, Ezra Moseley was a gun bowler, Wayne Daniel’s played back up a bit. It was just one after another. Played against many of them in Pennants in WA and league cricket in England. Not always an enjoyable experience.

I played a match against Hartley Alleyne another WI quick that never made the big time...my god that was an experience I will never forget lol

 

[Bob Neil]

TennisPlayerAndy said:
Just imagine fronting up to Marshall, Holding and Garner.

Scariest trio in history, one was lethal speed, one lethal bounce and the other was just lethal

People who weren’t in that era to experience it will never understand how tough Allan Border was standing up to the might of the Windies almost singlehanded through that era. 100 not out and 98 not out in the same match on a minefield in the Caribbean is just mind boggling.