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Zach Package said:
I know he was in essence a freebie and probably necessary just to meet the cap floor but I just don’t get the point of him.

Conceptually, I don’t understand
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We've been very fortunate Wright has been durable, as at times he's been the only mature KPF fit to play. Weideman for nothing to add some depth / selection pressure / injury coverage made sense IMO.
 
Zach Package said:
I know he was in essence a freebie and probably necessary just to meet the cap floor but I just don’t get the point of him.

Conceptually, I don’t understand
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Plays ruck and forward. Gives depth. Can play a role if we get injuries and may well be a better option as second ruck / forward than using Phillips as the second ruck. If we get something out of him as the second ruck who has forward ability then we can play Jones at CHF if needed. People said the same thing about Wright. We did not just get him to make the cap floor. He actually fits a gap we have in the list. All clubs end up with guys who could only be on the list for 2 or 3 years and fill short term spots. On a few occasions they end up like Peter Wright.
 
ant555 said:
Plays ruck and forward. Gives depth. Can play a role if we get injuries and may well be a better option as second ruck / forward than using Phillips as the second ruck. If we get something out of him as the second ruck who has forward ability then we can play Jones at CHF if needed. People said the same thing about Wright. We did not just get him to make the cap floor. He actually fits a gap we have in the list. All clubs end up with guys who could only be on the list for 2 or 3 years and fill short term spots. On a few occasions they end up like Peter Wright.
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I certainly hope so. Wright at least we all knew coming in had a good set of hands and could kick missiles better than just about everyone and there was an element of mystery as to why he wasn’t getting a good crack on the GC. Bit exotic and mysterious.

Weideman really couldn’t have hoped for better circumstances to make it and hasn’t really impressed and for all the talk of ‘can play ruck or we may trial him as a defender’ I’m yet to see anything to indicate he can do either.

Willing to give it a go because the stakes are real low, I just don’t see it.
 

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Zach Package said:
I certainly hope so. Wright at least we all knew coming in had a good set of hands and could kick missiles better than just about everyone and there was an element of mystery as to why he wasn’t getting a good crack on the GC. Bit exotic and mysterious.

Weideman really couldn’t have hoped for better circumstances to make it and hasn’t really impressed and for all the talk of ‘can play ruck or we may trial him as a defender’ I’m yet to see anything to indicate he can do either.

Willing to give it a go because the stakes are real low, I just don’t see it.
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Did we know that ? One of the knocks was he dropped a lot of marks and is still prone to doing so at times. I think 90% where saying the same as you are about Weideman. Watch the VFL GF and tell me he can not play some ruck.
 
ant555 said:
Did we know that ? One of the knocks was he dropped a lot of marks and is still prone to doing so at times. I think 90% where saying the same as you are about Weideman. Watch the VFL GF and tell me he can not play some ruck.
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I've been trying to work out who he rucked against in that GF because he's not looked up to it when I've seen him at AFL level.

I think I recall the Southport ruck is some bulky hairy mother who is about 6'4.
 
If he's the Francis replacement then I think we can already call it an upgrade. Soz Franga.
 
BrunoV said:
I've been trying to work out who he rucked against in that GF because he's not looked up to it when I've seen him at AFL level.

I think I recall the Southport ruck is some bulky hairy mother who is about 6'4.
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Nope.

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Match centre says Southport's ruck was Brayden Crossley

Former Gold Coast ruckman, 6'6 and over 100kg, or so spake Wikipedia:
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Wikipedia says he was also a white powder aficionado, which gave him a 12 month suspension and probably ended his attempted AFL career.

Bonus point because the match centre has a link to a full replay of the match.
 
Zach Package said:
I certainly hope so. Wright at least we all knew coming in had a good set of hands and could kick missiles better than just about everyone and there was an element of mystery as to why he wasn’t getting a good crack on the GC. Bit exotic and mysterious.

Weideman really couldn’t have hoped for better circumstances to make it and hasn’t really impressed and for all the talk of ‘can play ruck or we may trial him as a defender’ I’m yet to see anything to indicate he can do either.

Willing to give it a go because the stakes are real low, I just don’t see it.
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Yeah this kind of feels like a 'free hit' in all honesty. If it fails we brought in a guy who was a highly talented and touted junior, who'd been in the system for almost a decade and gave it a shot. We don't lose much. If it works and somehow we pull a diamond out of a bloke that so far has producing pyrite then WIN!
 
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ant555 said:
Did we know that ? One of the knocks was he dropped a lot of marks and is still prone to doing so at times. I think 90% where saying the same as you are about Weideman. Watch the VFL GF and tell me he can not play some ruck.
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Admittedly the numbers are closer than I anticipated but Wright at GC is the more prolific contested marker and marker inside 50 of the two. Playing in an absolutely rubbish side as well so there’s probably an element of loading there too.

I do recall him being very good in the VFL grand final but is wrestling Brayden Crossley in a mud pit at Ikon park really rucking? We play most of our games under a roof.

A big tick for general competitiveness for sure because that’s been a big question mark with him as well but at 197 without a massive spring and not a great deal of craft on show he doesn’t really have a lot going for him.
 
LOL, he hasn't played a game for us and already getting a hard time.

At the end of the day he is a ready made AFL player who at worst is massive depth for Jones if he is injured of out of form. At best, who knows.

Would have been super beneficial last year when Jones was injured or needed time in the VFL.

Great pick up IMO.
 
Lore said:
Nope.

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Match centre says Southport's ruck was Brayden Crossley

Former Gold Coast ruckman, 6'6 and over 100kg, or so spake Wikipedia:
en.wikipedia.org

Brayden Crossley - Wikipedia

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Wikipedia says he was also a white powder aficionado, which gave him a 12 month suspension and probably ended his attempted AFL career.

Bonus point because the match centre has a link to a full replay of the match.
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I'm a few cm off.

Crossly is nowhere near tall enough to not have a Nic Nat or Ryder level leap, not for AFL level. He can't get off the ground.

He's not a good reflection of an AFL ruck, which is what Package is getting at.
 
Zach Package said:
Admittedly the numbers are closer than I anticipated but Wright at GC is the more prolific contested marker and marker inside 50 of the two. Playing in an absolutely rubbish side as well so there’s probably an element of loading there too.

I do recall him being very good in the VFL grand final but is wrestling Brayden Crossley in a mud pit at Ikon park really rucking? We play most of our games under a roof.

A big tick for general competitiveness for sure because that’s been a big question mark with him as well but at 197 without a massive spring and not a great deal of craft on show he doesn’t really have a lot going for him.
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Of course there is a big question mark. That is why he was traded for cheap. Same as Wright who was a big question mark as he could not get a game in a crap side. What is it about cheap and depth for a couple of seasons that is the issue ? No one is saying he is going to be a super star.


All he has to do is take 25% of the ruck against the opposition second ruck if they go with one genuine ruck .
Then he just has to play a third talk forward role.

It may not be every week. The may play Flipper although he will get injured at some stage.

He could play bugger all games. He is there so we do not end up rucking Cox or Jones if it goes wrong or like the last couple of seasons we do not have to rush players back and play them at well under full fitness.

When I say he can ruck I am not taking number 1 ruck role .

If we get lucky he lives up to his potential. If not he is the cheap back up who is gone in 2 seasons once the likes of Cox etc are sorted.

Every list has cheap back ups.
 
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TheGrizz said:
Significantly outplayed Jones and could argue was better performed than Wright in the two praccies.

Would think he is a shoe in for round 1.
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Yep, I thought he was good. Presented well (good as outlet from defensive 50) and was very good in the ruck when needed.
 
Lore said:
I thought he was supposed to do second ruck/fwd so Wright can spend more time in the forward line. Which means he’s the one to beat for Bryan and Phillips if they want a spot.

Bryan is still building, would hope he starts getting semi-regular games toward the back end of this year but he should be #1 ruck in the 2s, and really honing his forward craft swapping with Phillips so he’s not completely useless after the ball is bounced.

Between Wright, Weideman, Voss, Jones and Stringer we should have 2-3 of them available with their habit of getting injured. The rest of the forward line should be smalls and a rotating mid.

Baldwin seems to be playing in defence which makes sense when you consider that Cox, Reid and Stewart are currently injured. Weideman might end up in defence too if we get any more injuries there, atm Laverde and BZT are holding down key posts which is not ideal and I don’t think we want Ridley tied to that role either.

I think what Weideman is at the very least is a plug and play mature body that gives us rotations and cover at both ends and can also teach the young guys a bit. If he ends up winning the Crichton then so much the better.
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Weideman is a mature body who doesn't like contact and we might play him as a defender. 😱
 
NAB777 said:
And Matthew Scarlett's father played for Geelong, but Matthew changed to Essendon after seeing Lloyd play well when we beat Geelong down at Kardinia
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Are you Joel Reynolds?
 
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