Player Watch #34: Jackson Archer - suspended for 3 matches for "hit" on WBD player Cleary - NMFC are challenging

[DarkPhoenix]

My fear is that the AFL know how wrong they've got the call, so they'll double down on stupid and uphold the ruling.

 

[toepoker]

I would like the challenge the functionality of Michael Christian's brain stem

 

[Flawed Genius]

Jay Clark obviously a yes man he won’t go against the AFL model. Didn’t he just get a promotion wonder why lol

You don't get to be the Herald Sun chief footy w***er without being able to spell sycophancy

 

[Devington]

You don't get to be the Herald Sun chief footy w***er without being able to spell sycophancy

Thankfully you only need to spell it once, and they give you 3 tries.

 

[Blightys Barrel]

Pretty much the entire AFL Community has rallied around Arch. The exception is the Scray faithful and the North Hating Hawks mod on the Main Board.

He has form of being a flog and should be treated with a grain of salt.

 

[BlueRoos]

The whole duty of care/ he didn't try to slow down drivel coming from some quarters defies evidence. Every single screen shot shows Arch's centre of gravity transferring back as he tries to pull up. The last shot is the most telling, there was nothing he could do whilst he tries to cushion the blow. Only in the wonderful world of the ATO could they give this a 3 game suspension. It has nothing to do with Archer, it is all about AFL optics being seen trying to 'prevent' concussion. -

 

[Ashley B]

So what would have happened if Archer was badly injured , imo nothing

 

[the big lebowski]

The whole duty of care/ he didn't try to slow down drivel coming from some quarters defies evidence. Every single screen shot shows Arch's centre of gravity transferring to his plant foot as he tries to pull up. The last shot is the most telling, there was nothing he could do whilst he tries to cushion the blow. Only in the wonderful world of the ATO could they give this a 3 game suspension. It has nothing to do with Archer, it is all about AFL optics being seen trying to 'prevent' concussion. -

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The line on the grass is also telling imo

 

[Flawed Genius]

Only in North Melbourne lore would a player wearing our colours break another footballers leg sliding in, and subsequently be the reason for the creation of a rule protecting the player who is being slid into

Only for many years to have the player being slid into be given a three match suspension because the slider went head first rather than feet first ... And the player being slid into is wearing NM colours

Absolutely exceptional

 

[Ashley B]

Only in North Melbourne lore would a player wearing our colours break another footballers leg sliding in, and subsequently be the reason for the creation of a rule protecting the player who is being slid into

Only for many years to have the player being slid into be given a three match suspension because the slider went head first rather than feet first ... And the player being slid into is wearing NM colours

Absolutely exceptional

Absolutely, the irony. Maybe they will bring in the Archer law lol.
They will come up with some flipping bullshit. Like Carlton did when their Harry elbowed our Harry to the back of the head and said it was their new patented tackling technique . And was told by the hearing knob it was refreshing. Laughable crap. And was then let off

 

[shinboner magic]

Deliberation should take all of a minute - something like this

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Only in North Melbourne lore would a player wearing our colours break another footballers leg sliding in, and subsequently be the reason for the creation of a rule protecting the player who is being slid into

Only for many years to have the player being slid into be given a three match suspension because the slider went head first rather than feet first ... And the player being slid into is wearing NM colours

Absolutely exceptional

It's weird how the universe continually does this shit to North.

 

[Event Horizon]

I would like the challenge the functionality of Michael Christian's brain stem

The way the system works, he is almost asked to report anything slightly questionable, and then the tribunal will test it. It shouldn't even be called the appeal. We are simply asking the tribunal to deliberate on it.

 

[Samsquanch]

Absolutely, the irony. Maybe they will bring in the Archer law lol.
They will come up with some flipping bullshit. Like Carlton did when their Harry elbowed our Harry to the back of the head and said it was their new patented tackling technique . And was told by the hearing knob it was refreshing. Laughable crap. And was then let off

Wasn't it a proactive defensive technique applied by McKay in the event that Sheez might have gained possession? But the judgement was laughable crap as you say.

 

[Samsquanch]

The way the system works, he is almost asked to report anything slightly questionable, and then the tribunal will test it. It shouldn't even be called the appeal. We are simply asking the tribunal to deliberate on it.

Agreed. That's how it should work, but in this instance, the MRO has made a "finding" and has applied a penalty. So this is taken to the tribunal to appeal the MRO decision, which of course, was a wrong decision. The MRO charged the wrong player based on the laws of the game. He should probably stand down when the case against Archer is dismissed.

 

[Shermanator]

interesting, only jay clarke i have sen say he should go. joey montagna said he way completely wrong,

The same flog who single-handily started the cheerleading last year for St Kilda to throw the kitchen sink at LDU and prise him out of Arden Street.

This squeaky voiced bit of belly-button lint is nearly at USC levels for mine..

 

[CURVE]

I hope part of our defense is the wrong player is facing the tribunal, and that Cleary should be facing the three week suspension.

 

[Ashley B]

Agreed. That's how it should work, but in this instance, the MRO has made a "finding" and has applied a penalty. So this is taken to the tribunal to appeal the MRO decision, which of course, was a wrong decision. The MRO charged the wrong player based on the laws of the game. He should probably stand down when the case against Archer is dismissed.

Interesting, so when Maynard was sent to the tribunal from memory for his “football incident”there was no finding. Is it better or worse for the mro to make a decision or recommendation? In any case the black and white striped player got off , ended someone’s career , then won a flag. Nothing to see here.

 

[Samsquanch]

I hope part of our defense is the wrong player is facing the tribunal, and that Cleary should be facing the three week suspension.

I think the penalty for Cleary taking out Archer's legs (or just causing Archer to have to take evasive action is enough according to the laws of the game) is a $10k fine.

The laws of the game are cut and dried. The wrong player was charged. Archer cannot be found guilty as he did his best by taking evasive action to avoid or minimise contact with Cleary. The onus for duty of care was on the person who dived.

 

[Samsquanch]

Interesting, so when Maynard was sent to the tribunal from memory for his “football incident”there was no finding. Is it better or worse for the mro to make a decision or recommendation? In any case the black and white striped player got off , ended someone’s career , then won a flag. Nothing to see here.

Remember when Higgins was concussed and required facial surgery...

 

[Ashley B]

I think the penalty for Cleary taking out Archer's legs (or just causing Archer to have to take evasive action is enough according to the laws of the game) is a $10k fine.

The laws of the game are cut and dried. The wrong player was charged. Archer cannot be found guilty as he did his best by taking evasive action to avoid or minimise contact with Cleary. The onus for duty of care was on the person who dived.

Unfortunately for Cleary he did it with his head and so the obvious outcome occurred. IMO he too (Cleary)did nothing wrong the AFL reactionary brigade changed the rule due to our Great Lindsay trying to get the ball. This game is based on instinct, sometimes there are collisions, it’s a contact sport . No one should be going to the tribunal in this case its flipping dumb.

 

[lockheed]

You don't get to be the Herald Sun chief footy w***er without being able to spell sycophancy

Don't have to spell it. Just get someone to write it on your forehead every day

 

[Twinkletoes]

Did Gerard post this? Too many long words.

No, that’s my verbal diarrhoea.

 

[Ashley B]

Remember when Higgins was concussed and required facial surgery...

Yes ,

 

[Twinkletoes]

The hardest thing to stomach is going to be reading the AFL’s representative caning Archer’s character and painting a picture of him executing a deliberate 100mph karate knee to the chops.