F1 2025 - Previous Rounds

[Nuggs Bunny]

Australia
China
Japan

 

[juice t]

The commentators definitely mentioned it. The drivers needed to watch their fuel for 2 reasons - they needed enough to get to the finish line, and they also need to have at least 1kg left in the tank for scrutineering. However, the car's final weight is taken after the fuel has been drained, so fuel saving (or lack thereof) can't be the difference between a car being overweight or underweight.

They referenced Vettel's DQ, which was for not having 1kg of fuel left in the tank at the finish of the race, as is required for scrutineering.

It’s also how BAR nearly got wiped out of the championship 20 years ago
They hid a second fuel tank so the car could run underweight… which wasn’t discovered until Jenson Button got a podium at San Marino

 

[Sleezy]

It’s also how BAR nearly got wiped out of the championship 20 years ago
They hid a second fuel tank so the car could run underweight… which wasn’t discovered until Jenson Button got a podium at San Marino

How did the second fuel tank help them run under weight?

 

[juice t]

How did the second fuel tank help them run under weight?

At the original weigh in it was 606kg

Once the FIA drained the second tank the car was 5kg (Or 6kg depending on your sources) under what was then a 600kg race weight limit (Enormous when you compare it to LeClerc being 1kg under)

The theory was they didn’t actually top up that concealed second tank until the last fuel stops (Effectively using fuel as ballast which was/is very illegal), so when the scrutineers came in it would be at a legal weight

So over the course of a race they ran underweight and had a large weight + speed advantage on the other midfield teams - Button in that race was only 10 seconds off the almighty scrap between Alonso and Schumacher and Sato was a comfortable 5th

 

[Vader]

As you may recall, Antonelli was bizarrely announced as DotD - having started 8th and finished 8th (before the Ferraris were DQed).

Everyone was scratching their heads, wondering WTF? To be honest, many still are (including me).

This article attempts to explain why he won it - but misses one fairly obvious and crucial point:
https://au.motorsport.com/f1/news/antonelli-driver-day-chinese-gp/10706493/

The article points out that Antonelli suffered significant floor damage early in the race - quite possibly from driving over Leclerc's missing end plate. This made his car an absolute pig to drive, so holding onto his 8th position was a real achievement. To this end, I'd say that he absolutely deserved the DotD award.

But the article overlooks one glaring problem... DotD is a social media award, and NOBODY in social media land (i.e. outside the Mercedes team) had any clue as to the difficulties which Antonelli was experiencing. So, while he was thoroughly deserving of votes, nobody knew that he was deserving of them, so nobody would/could/should have voted for him on the basis of his difficulties.

Which takes us back to where we were at the end of the race. WTF was going on with the voting, that Antonelli's complete non-entity race (as far as Joe Public was aware) garnered sufficient votes to win DotD?

 

[happy_eagle]

DotD has been a popularity contest for a while now.

 

[Jatz]

Even with that said, it still makes no sense as to why he won it haha

 

[Father Jack]

I thought Martin Brundle was very diplomatic when that flashed up on the screen

 

[Duck Farmer]

Even with that said, it still makes no sense as to why he won it haha

Yeah, should've been Lando like always.

 

[Skull Face]

As you may recall, Antonelli was bizarrely announced as DotD - having started 8th and finished 8th (before the Ferraris were DQed).

Everyone was scratching their heads, wondering WTF? To be honest, many still are (including me).

This article attempts to explain why he won it - but misses one fairly obvious and crucial point:
https://au.motorsport.com/f1/news/antonelli-driver-day-chinese-gp/10706493/

The article points out that Antonelli suffered significant floor damage early in the race - quite possibly from driving over Leclerc's missing end plate. This made his car an absolute pig to drive, so holding onto his 8th position was a real achievement. To this end, I'd say that he absolutely deserved the DotD award.

But the article overlooks one glaring problem... DotD is a social media award, and NOBODY in social media land (i.e. outside the Mercedes team) had any clue as to the difficulties which Antonelli was experiencing. So, while he was thoroughly deserving of votes, nobody knew that he was deserving of them, so nobody would/could/should have voted for him on the basis of his difficulties.

Which takes us back to where we were at the end of the race. WTF was going on with the voting, that Antonelli's complete non-entity race (as far as Joe Public was aware) garnered sufficient votes to win DotD?

Got to put it back on the idiots who put the poll up with his name on it to begin with, should have been oscar, ocon and maybe bearman no one else listed

 

[happy_eagle]

Got to put it back on the idiots who put the poll up with his name on it to begin with, should have been oscar, ocon and maybe bearman no one else listed

Is DotD a restricted poll or can you vote for any driver?

I thought it was the latter, and that is how Danny Ric got it in Singapore last year when he finished last.

 

[Skull Face]

Is DotD a restricted poll or can you vote for any driver?

I thought it was the latter, and that is how Danny Ric got it in Singapore last year when he finished last.

Looking at the % of votes im guessing its unrestricted.

This is how stupid it is:
Antonelli P8 to P8 in a Mercedes DOTD
Ocon P11 to P7 in a Haas - Less than 25% of the votes antonelli got if he even got that many.

Bro litterally lost a position to a Haas driver and got DOTD

 

[Jatz]

Yeah, should've been Lando like always.

Funnily enough, you sound just like Lando when he's whining about something.

 

[Jatz]

It's not like it can be bet on so it's ultimately harmless but it is amusing. Wonder what we'll see at Suzuka with the voting.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Norris brake pedal yikes

"Oscar we need both cars too pit and for you too jump into Landos car
"

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

No emotion from Oscar on the radio. Is he a cyborg?

Kimi Piastri?

 

[Cromulant]

Kimi Piastri?

Kimi showed contempt on multiple occasions, mostly to his own team haha.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Kimi showed contempt on multiple occasions, mostly to his own team haha.

Liked him
One of my fav drivers out of the car because of his demeanour. lol

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

 

[Gasometer]

How nice to be able to watch all of these past 3 races without falling asleep?

Pity it all ends

The US and Mexican, and Azerbaijan are all doable

I’m sure back 30 years ago the European Races started at 10pm?

 

[Black_White]

How nice to be able to watch all of these past 3 races without falling asleep?

Pity it all ends

The US and Mexican, and Azerbaijan are all doable

I’m sure back 30 years ago the European Races started at 10pm?

**** the US.

 

[Pugz89]

European ones mostly start at 11pm, so done by 12.30am. I head to bed soon as chequered flag is waved.

 

[Gasometer]

European ones mostly start at 11pm, so done by 12.30am. I head to bed soon as chequered flag is waved.

That’s right, but I’m sure it used to be 10am.

 

[Gasometer]

**** the US.

Yeh but wats F1 in Miami and Texas at breakfast time upset you so much Albo?

 

[Vader]

That’s right, but I’m sure it used to be 10am.

The telecast used to start at 10pm, but it was just Darryl Eastlake & Allan Jones crapping on for an hour, before the racing finally started at 11pm.

 

[imadodgyumpire]

The telecast times varied from 10:30 pm-12am depending on C9 Sunday night schedule.

The telecast used to start at 10pm, but it was just Darryl Eastlake & Allan Jones crapping on for an hour, before the racing finally started at 11pm.

An hour, or 5-10 minutes?