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Strategy Changes: Round 3 West Coast Eagles vs. Fremantle Dockers
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Gosh..
7 Day breaks are the worst.
Especially after a loss.
7 Day breaks are the worst.
Especially after a loss.
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Can I just say as well.
NO ONE. And i mean that, NOT A SINGLE ****ING ONE OF US WANTS to lose to West Coast.
But IF winning means we're stuck in mediocrity for the next 2 years, versus losing and bringing in someone who can drive us to a flag, well, I'd take that.
Who knows, JL may be able to right the ship and turn this behemoth around. I hope he does. But I am losing faith. I'm losing patience.
NO ONE. And i mean that, NOT A SINGLE ****ING ONE OF US WANTS to lose to West Coast.
But IF winning means we're stuck in mediocrity for the next 2 years, versus losing and bringing in someone who can drive us to a flag, well, I'd take that.
Who knows, JL may be able to right the ship and turn this behemoth around. I hope he does. But I am losing faith. I'm losing patience.
Wizard
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Suspect Banners is the sub.
I would assume MJ, Dudley, Voss and Draper are in the 22.
Bold of you to assume losing means anything would change.
People have said word for word "I hope we lose".
JL's career hinges on our appearance and performance in the finals this year, he has acknowledged as much in his new employment status and is betting on himself, he has taken on all the risk and done the right thing by the club.
I just don't understand not backing the whole club 100% until it's a statistical impossibility of us not making finals.
You need every little thing to go right to win a flag and the supporter base needs to lead the players through the tough times, not the other way around.
It's easy to explain if your goal is a premiership. If you goal is the team winning this weeks game it makes no sense.
Delaying short term gratification is key to almost all success, why would supporting a football team be any different?
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I think this should be the key driver with every decision we make. Will it get us closer to a premiership or not.
This is why I get so frustrated with the trading away of important draft picks during a rebuild, long term it always hurt you.
For that same reason, what makes a good recruit will be completely different if you are pushing for a top 4 finish, or starting a rebuild. For this exact reason, I feel Aish was a bad recruit purely because the timing was poor, and he was always unlikely to be part of any sustained push into finals.
I will give the club the benefit of the doubt since our recruiting (since Garlick/JL) on average is very much done with the future in mind. Bolton is the only real list decision we've done for the now.
I guess you can argue Aish as well, but the price was low enough that it's not tangible. The reality is, if we kept that pick they likely wouldn't have played as much as Aish. Definitely not worth losing sleep over.
It's a good result but meaningless on its own. So you're correct. We'd then need to beat the Dogs, Tigers and Dees comfortably (flog the Tigers) for me to take it on board as a good sign.
And even then, until we do it against some top 6 teams I don't believe we've improved. Especially in a close games.
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It's more about the how.
Someone posted on here somewhere (can't remember who or where) that if you're expecting the method to change, you're **** out of luck.
I agree 100%. If JL was going to change the method he would have done it already.
This is it.
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I don’t think it’s about any given win. It’s about a brand that stacks up.
Daniel Hoyne from Champion Data was on SEN today. They’ve created new way to measure ball movement for teams.
It’s an interesting discussion, but one thing they do mention is Fremantle is among the showest teams in the comp this year, and when they looked back, Freo has been the slowest or second slowest ever since JL took the reins.
The whole discussion is interesting, but the Fremantle part starts at 11 minutes in.
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If the coach remains on Monday morning I won’t be satisfied. I want us to win sure, but I want the coach gone, result regardless now.
Beating WCE does not equal being able to win a flag.
Taylor
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- #568
The quality of performance WC brings will be both discounted and trivialised.
We could win 40-2 clearances including 28-0 centre clearances dominating the scoreboard and field position and the outcome will be "well WC are clearly rubbish".
I don't think there's a win for the coach anyway here.
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WRONG. Both sides are the bottom cos we're not winning another game under JL.
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I shouldn't expect anything less but people on social media again are whining about Brodie.
This dude has somehow convinced people he's the missing piece when he doesn't even perform well at WAFL level, yet all people see is his disposal count and their mind goes "High disposal = good game"
This dude has somehow convinced people he's the missing piece when he doesn't even perform well at WAFL level, yet all people see is his disposal count and their mind goes "High disposal = good game"
true. It is 12+ or GTFO for me
for real though, i will be happy if we are playing like when we put Melbourne to the sword. Confident in our plays, backing ourselves, drilling them into the ground through aiming to score to the last second.
If we are playing like 2nd to 4th quarter last week where we were ahead but looked like a rabbit being chased by greyhounds around a track, no, i won't be happy.
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I get what you’re saying about him being too small to be a great tackler but pressure is more than just tackling. So I think he can add to our forward half pressure even if he’s not making a heap of tackles.
And hopefully he kicks a snag or two
