The Greens

[nut]

The situation is completely different now. Complaints about how the previous generation had it easier will not get you into your own home



I don't have children, however half of my friends do, almost all are home owners, early 30s.

You can have a family, just means you have to work long hours to support them.

So to own a home and have a family you have stay away from your home and your family?
Sounds like the recipe of a broken family.

 

[Puddy]

So to own a home and have a family you have stay away from your home and your family?
Sounds like the recipe of a broken family.

It's reality. If you want to own a home then it's what you have to do. Complaining that your parents had it easier will get you nowhere

 

[nut]

It's reality. If you want to own a home then it's what you have to do. Complaining that your parents had it easier will get you nowhere

I own a mortgage … I’ll complain about the Ponzi scheme as much as I like..

 

[Ghost Patrol]

The situation is completely different now. Complaints about how the previous generation had it easier will not get you into your own home



I don't have children, however half of my friends do, almost all are home owners, early 30s.

You can have a family, just means you have to work long hours to support them.

Can you not think of ways to improve the system?

Are you scared of change?

Why are you bothered by people discussing this topic?

 

[Father Jack]

It's reality. If you want to own a home then it's what you have to do. Complaining that your parents had it easier will get you nowhere

Unless the complaining is done in such a manner that it triggers a change in the system allowing a more sustainable and fairer path to home ownership. If what you are suggesting is the only way then we're already living in a dystopian society and something will have to give at some point.

 

[Gralin]

It's reality. If you want to own a home then it's what you have to do. Complaining that your parents had it easier will get you nowhere

And yet I've got a home and a family and I'm only working one job and not working more than 40 hours a week

Could it be possible that your reality is not the reality but just your situation?

 

[Puddy]

I own a mortgage … I’ll complain about the Ponzi scheme as much as I like..

I hate the banks for profiting off my hard work.

Can you not think of ways to improve the system?

Are you scared of change?

Why are you bothered by people discussing this topic?

Alot of young people are looking for a easy ride. They want to have their cake and eat it too.

And yet I've got a home and a family and I'm only working one job and not working more than 40 hours a week

Could it be possible that your reality is not the reality but just your situation?

Good for you. If someone can service their mortgage with just their fulltime wage they are very lucky

 

[Home Alone]

Good for you. If someone can service their mortgage with just their fulltime wage they are very lucky

Perhaps they just worked hard. Excelled in their academic endeavours, ambitious in their corporate careers and head a department by early 30's. Salary $360+pa.

House purchase can be done; whether it is 80+ hours a week or the above). But if you think that is a sustainable system and the root cause is laziness then I don't think you can 'see the forest for the trees'.

 

[Seeds]

The situation is completely different now. Complaints about how the previous generation had it easier will not get you into your own home



I don't have children, however half of my friends do, almost all are home owners, early 30s.

You can have a family, just means you have to work long hours to support them.

But why do you have to? Back in the day a decent sized property could be earnt off 1 income working 40 hours a week. And now a much smaller property takes 2 incomes and a total of 100-120 of work for week?

by what reason does that seem justified?

the problem we have is there are lots of people who work less then 20 hours a week (or none at all) but rake in massive money from property and equity income which they have largely acquired through gambling and luck. Not hard work. And everyone else has to work harder because these rent earners arent pulling their weight and getting all this free money to boot to bid up house prices.

 

[Gralin]

I hate the banks for profiting off my hard work.



Alot of young people are looking for a easy ride. They want to have their cake and eat it too.


Good for you. If someone can service their mortgage with just their fulltime wage they are very lucky

and instead of saying people are lazy maybe you should be agitating for something to be done about that problem

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Alot of young people are looking for a easy ride. They want to have their cake and eat it too.

Alot of old people are already on an easy ride. Their cake is subsidised by young people’s taxes.

Are you an old person stuffing your face with cheap cake?

 

[Puddy]

But why do you have to? Back in the day a decent sized property could be earnt off 1 income working 40 hours a week. And now a much smaller property takes 2 incomes and a total of 100-120 of work for week?

by what reason does that seem justified?

the problem we have is there are lots of people who work less then 20 hours a week (or none at all) but rake in massive money from property and equity income which they have largely acquired through gambling and luck. Not hard work. And everyone else has to work harder because these rent earners arent pulling their weight and getting all this free money to boot to bid up house prices.

If it's justified or not is irrelevant. It's the reality of the situation alot of people are in.

and instead of saying people are lazy maybe you should be agitating for something to be done about that problem

Instead of complaining these people should be picking up second or third jobs to purchase a home.

Alot of old people are already on an easy ride. Their cake is subsidised by young people’s taxes.

Are you an old person stuffing your face with cheap cake?

I'm in my early 30s. Have been working in Aged Care for over a decade. Old people literally lose all their assets as soon as they require care. Bad news for younger people relying on inheritance

 

[Johnny Bananas]

The situation is completely different now. Complaints about how the previous generation had it easier will not get you into your own home

Sure, if you don't want to change the system and just want to accept it as it is. I wonder if you're on the wrong subforum though. The Money board will have plenty of your fellow "Rise and Grind Bro™" types. Whereas in SRP and particularly in this subforum, we like to envision what things could be rather than what is, because politics can change the system if enough people feel strongly about it.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

If it's justified or not is irrelevant. It's the reality of the situation alot of people are in.



Instead of complaining these people should be picking up second or third jobs to purchase a home.


I'm in my early 30s. Have been working in Aged Care for over a decade. Old people literally lose all their assets as soon as they require care. Bad news for younger people relying on inheritance

You are arguing that young people should shut up and accept the status quo. Which is why I thought you were a boomer.

Maybe you just rely on conservative mainstream media for your world view?

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Can you not think of ways to improve the system?

Are you scared of change?

Why are you bothered by people discussing this topic?

Because if other people don't have to work as hard as they did to get ahead, that's morally wrong, as it makes all their suffering have a lesser payoff. Only people who work 80 hours a week should be able to afford a home, and anyone who struggles to do that, even those mentally or physically incapable of doing so, doesn't deserve a place of their own.

I swear, some people want us to live in the 1850s again.

 

[Gralin]

If it's justified or not is irrelevant. It's the reality of the situation alot of people are in.

the whole point is that it should not be like this
you think the problem is people not working enough

everyone else thinks the problem is housing is too expensive

Instead of complaining these people should be picking up second or third jobs to purchase a home.

its no that hard to actually do two things at once

well when you're not working 4 part time jobs to butcher yourself out of a life and get the worst possible return on your earnings anyway

I'm in my early 30s. Have been working in Aged Care for over a decade. Old people literally lose all their assets as soon as they require care. Bad news for younger people relying on inheritance

the wealth transfer from aged care is an issue in itself and an absolute ton of money is going to be fleeced to these companies who pay s**t and provide bad services in exchange for taking a large chunk of any money they can

again a problem that should be addressed but I'm sure you'll just shrug and go back to calling people lazy hey

 

[Puddy]

You are arguing that young people should shut up and accept the status quo. Which is why I thought you were a boomer.

Maybe you just rely on conservative mainstream media for your world view?

I'm more left wing than right. I believe in free education, anything to help people better themselves.
It's why I find it frustrating to see international students pay enormous study fees, work their asses off to get ahead and buy property, only to have people who have a easier path complain.

 

[Puddy]

the wealth transfer from aged care is an issue in itself and an absolute ton of money is going to be fleeced to these companies who pay s**t and provide bad services in exchange for taking a large chunk of any money they can

again a problem that should be addressed but I'm sure you'll just shrug and go back to calling people lazy hey

Society doesn't care about the elderly at all. That's why we leave them to get picked apart by these vultures.

 

[Gralin]

Society doesn't care about the elderly at all. That's why we leave them to get picked apart by these vultures.

from the guy who says no point complaining about anything wrong with society.....

I'm more left wing than right. I believe in free education, anything to help people better themselves.
It's why I find it frustrating to see international students pay enormous study fees, work their asses off to get ahead and buy property, only to have people who have a easier path complain.

you sure as s**t don't post like someone with left of center politics

 

[Johnny Bananas]

It's why I find it frustrating to see international students pay enormous study fees, work their asses off to get ahead and buy property, only to have people who have a easier path complain.

I've met some incredibly lazy international students before, that I essentially had to rescue in a postgrad group project. Many of them do indeed work hard, and others simply have rich parents who can pay to send them to a richer country after they fail to get into a university in their own country.

 

[Father Jack]

I'm more left wing than right. I believe in free education, anything to help people better themselves.
It's why I find it frustrating to see international students pay enormous study fees, work their asses off to get ahead and buy property, only to have people who have a easier path complain.

This makes no sense, why would you think that the people with an 'easier path' shouldn't complain about being forced to work unsustainable 80 works to afford a home? Anyone able to afford enormous fees for education is likely to be on a whole different path anyway, making it hard to compare.

 

[nut]

If it's justified or not is irrelevant. It's the reality of the situation alot of people are in.



Instead of complaining these people should be picking up second or third jobs to purchase a home.


I'm in my early 30s. Have been working in Aged Care for over a decade. Old people literally lose all their assets as soon as they require care. Bad news for younger people relying on inheritance

So if everyone under 30 decided to have 2-3 jobs, where do these jobs come from?

 

[Puddy]

from the guy who says no point complaining about anything wrong with society.....


you sure as s**t don't post like someone with left of center politics

Aged Care is far more overpriced than the real estate market.

If everyone was like me socialism would work. No room for bludgers

So if everyone under 30 decided to have 2-3 jobs, where do these jobs come from?

Sectors like Aged Care are literally collapsing due to lack of staff.

 

[Puddy]

I've met some incredibly lazy international students before, that I essentially had to rescue in a postgrad group project. Many of them do indeed work hard, and others simply have rich parents who can pay to send them to a richer country after they fail to get into a university in their own country.

I'm not talking about the wealthy ones, I'm talking about the hard workers from poor families who in addition are also sending money home to support their families

 

[Ghost Patrol]

I'm not talking about the wealthy ones, I'm talking about the hard workers from poor families who in addition are also sending money home to support their families

So you are saying that they already have homes?