Thanks scomo, everyone knows 80% vaccinated is hard to achieve. More spin, we’ll never ‘open up’ with our current set of politicians (of all colours)

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HPKS said:
Bigger question what happens when we hit 80% open up & then 6 months later that 80% stops getting boosters & then it slips back to say 55%. Do we go back to what’s happening now? Serious question as I’ve never heard this talked about.
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My thoughts would be that boosters would be for the most at risk (age/comorbidity) so hopefully the majority would get a booster anyway.
The worse scenario would be opening at 80% and then having another wave of a variant more able to bypass the immune repsonse. Then we'd be back nearly to square one.
 

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Pessimistic said:
Britain still isn’t 70% let alone 80% and it’s 50% in cities. Vaccination centres are deserted

it’s not happening
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NSW just crossed 70% first dose, the entire country is beyond 60% first dose, and it's not slowing down. Current vaccine hesitancy in Australia is 11.7% unwilling, and 8.6% unsure.

Mid 80s is my tip for where we'll plateau.
 
Getting to 80% (of the over 16 population) will be difficult. The UK is at 63% of the entire population. That translates into just
under 80% of the over 16 population. And the UK have had the urgency factor of seeing tens of thousands of deaths whereas
we here in Australia haven't. What has happened in the UK and US is that people see the case numbers and deaths occurring
in unvaccinated, mostly poor, mostly non-white sections of the population and many decide Covid is now a "poor people's" disease
that is unlikely to effect them. And they are largely correct. The same thing is starting to occur here in Australia. In Sydney
80% of the cases and almost all the deaths are occurring in the south-west and west parts of Sydney which is easily the poorest
and most non-white part of the city. There are few cases and almost no deaths in the predominantly white, wealthier areas of
Sydney, and over time that will effect the vax take-up rate even in these neighbourhoods. Anyway, I guess we'll see.
 
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MVille Swan said:
Getting to 80% (of the over 16 population) will be difficult. The UK is at 63% of the entire population. That translates into just
under 80% of the over 16 population. And the UK have had the urgency factor of seeing tens of thousands of deaths whereas
we here in Australia haven't. What has happened in the UK and US is that people see the case numbers and deaths occurring
in unvaccinated, mostly poor, mostly non-white sections of the population and many decide Covid is now a "poor people's" disease
that is unlikely to effect them. And they are largely correct. The same thing is starting to occur here in Australia. In Sydney
80% of the cases and almost all the deaths are occurring in the south-west and west parts of Sydney which is easily the poorest
and most non-white part of the city. There are few cases and almost no deaths in the predominantly white, wealthier areas of
Sydney, and over time that will effect the vax take-up rate even in these neighbourhoods. Anyway, I guess we'll see.
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The UK are living freely. That's the incentive not to get vaccinated. The deaths are arbitrary and wouldn't be noticed any more than your heart disease, cancer deaths. Hardly people being burned in the street. Only reason to get the vaccine in Australia is so our tyrannical governments will let us out again.
 
MVille Swan said:
Getting to 80% (of the over 16 population) will be difficult. The UK is at 63% of the entire population. That translates into just
under 80% of the over 16 population. And the UK have had the urgency factor of seeing tens of thousands of deaths whereas
we here in Australia haven't. What has happened in the UK and US is that people see the case numbers and deaths occurring
in unvaccinated, mostly poor, mostly non-white sections of the population and many decide Covid is now a "poor people's" disease
that is unlikely to effect them. And they are largely correct. The same thing is starting to occur here in Australia. In Sydney
80% of the cases and almost all the deaths are occurring in the south-west and west parts of Sydney which is easily the poorest
and most non-white part of the city. There are few cases and almost no deaths in the predominantly white, wealthier areas of
Sydney, and over time that will effect the vax take-up rate even in these neighbourhoods. Anyway, I guess we'll see.
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ive had two close calls with delta since I’ve been here, since July 3. Been really ill with something which didn’t test positive at all. OK now. Freedom is great though, I recommend it.

it wouldn’t take Nostradamus to predict aus govts saying we want 80% of every state before opening etc, depending on political drivers (which is why aus govts are atrocious)
As I said, meant urban areas in UK barely above 50%
 
theyellowsash said:
Just hearing that scumo went to and from Sydney without any quarantine to visit his family for fathers day.

Meanwhile I haven't seen mine for months and can't go 5.5km to the inlaws.

What. A. Can't. I'll never understand how people can keep voting for the libs with the constant corruption.
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The only thing wrong is the optics. He didn’t breach any rules or laws.

Are you equally offended that our premier posted a family pic on social media on Father’s Day with his family, enjoying a wine? I couldn’t do the same with my family.
 
FlowersByIrene said:
The UK are living freely. That's the incentive not to get vaccinated. The deaths are arbitrary and wouldn't be noticed any more than your heart disease, cancer deaths. Hardly people being burned in the street. Only reason to get the vaccine in Australia is so our tyrannical governments will let us out again.
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I am genuinely curious about this.

I saw a poll a couple of months ago saying that only just over 50% supported a 'controlled' end to lockdowns.

I was surpised it wasn't 100%. Then I realised due to my age, current life situation and location I probably see it differently to a lot of people. 2nd Pfizer jab is tomorrow. Not for a second did I consider that I was getting it to prevent the negative effects of Covid. Literally only got it to help the country back up so I can travel with my family and live the life that's been upended since last March.

I'd love to know the percentage breakdown of people who were motivated to get the vax because of the virus and those who just want life get back to normal ASAP.
 
Sttew said:
The only thing wrong is the optics. He didn’t breach any rules or laws.

Are you equally offended that our premier posted a family pic on social media on Father’s Day with his family, enjoying a wine? I couldn’t do the same with my family.
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ah yes, the "technically its ok by the technical reading of the regulations". that seems to be the libs favourite catchphrase.

that you're raising andres having a picture with the family who he lives as a comparison shows where youre coming from already.
 

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theyellowsash said:
ah yes, the "technically its ok by the technical reading of the regulations". that seems to be the libs favourite catchphrase.

that you're raising andres having a picture with the family who he lives as a comparison shows where youre coming from already.
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Put politics aside, Apart from the optics what is wrong with what the PM did?

As for Andrews. Yes he lives with his family but so many families like yours and mine couldn’t share Father’s Day. I bet he regrets posting the photo just as I bet Scomo regrets visiting his family. Because we live in a ****ed country where people are offended by everything
 
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Sttew said:
The only thing wrong is the optics. He didn’t breach any rules or laws.

Are you equally offended that our premier posted a family pic on social media on Father’s Day with his family, enjoying a wine? I couldn’t do the same with my family.
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a two class Australian Is appearing where such as scomo gets things simply ticked off but those without contacts or money are having to jump through increasingly higher hoops and those deciding are free from accountability
I guess it will all end when the 80% targets met

If you believe the target will be met I've found some land in qld to sell you can't decide if it's unfettered capitalism or socialism. It's certainly not libertarian
 
Pessimistic said:
a two class Australian Is appearing where such as scomo gets things simply ticked off but those without contacts or money are having to jump through increasingly higher hoops and those deciding are free from accountability
I guess it will all end when the 80% targets met

If you believe the target will be met I've found some land in qld to sell you can't decide if it's unfettered capitalism or socialism. It's certainly not libertarian
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must be contacts with Scomo. He is the ******* PM. You wonder why we attract dickheads into politics on both sides? Because everything they do is shitcanned and overanalysed.
 
Sttew said:
must be contacts with Scomo. He is the ******* PM. You wonder why we attract dickheads into politics on both sides? Because everything they do is shitcanned and overanalysed.
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he took 40 people to the UK 'one of the most risky places on earth according to him.
Warranted?
 
Pessimistic said:
he took 40 people to the UK 'one of the most risky places on earth according to him.
Warranted?
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For the G7 Summit? Get a grip. Did any of the entourage contract Covid? No.
 
Blackhawk42 said:
I am genuinely curious about this.

I saw a poll a couple of months ago saying that only just over 50% supported a 'controlled' end to lockdowns.

I was surpised it wasn't 100%. Then I realised due to my age, current life situation and location I probably see it differently to a lot of people. 2nd Pfizer jab is tomorrow. Not for a second did I consider that I was getting it to prevent the negative effects of Covid. Literally only got it to help the country back up so I can travel with my family and live the life that's been upended since last March.

I'd love to know the percentage breakdown of people who were motivated to get the vax because of the virus and those who just want life get back to normal ASAP.
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I would think most people are getting it for both reasons. To protect themselves and those around them, and because they want things to go back
to normal. There are many frightened and anxious people out there in the community even in regular times and the virus has sent these feelings
into overdrive and so I'm not surprised there are lot of people who don't want to the lockdowns to end. They can't seem to get their head around
the maths which show they are very unlikely to get Covid, and it's virtually impossible to die from it in this country, especially if you are vaccinated.
 
Projecting here, but if someone tends to be anti vax and anti immigration, abstaining would be a choice for them.

it needs to be 70 or 80 percent had the chance to vaccinate. They can’t hold the rest of us to ransom

It remains to be seen if the pollies dog whistle on this, while claiming vaccination success anyway.
 
amazingjoshy said:
That's crazy, we're never hitting those targets
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It amazes me how many doomsayers and Morrison haters said we couldn’t achieve 80%, let alone 70% in 2021.
 
The 747 said:
Yes, it seems that we got a huge move on. What is the point of bumping this post el champo?

Edit - oh I get it, cheerleading for ScoMo :rolleyes:
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remember, having a slow vaccine program so that we'd have more lockdowns and deaths was all part of the plan to incentivise people to get vaccinated. it was definitely not a result of yet another incompetent, penny pinching and pampering (to antivax/anti az boomers) cockup of a program.
 
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