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A 7pm kick-off in Los Angeles would air at midday in Australia’s eastern states, while a 7pm game in New York City would air at 9am.

Had a quick look at Qatar schedule for start times.
16 of 48 group games were played at 10pm mainly due to heat issues, and it was prime time in central Europe time zone at 8pm
8 of 16 knock out games were played at 10pm and
8 at 16 knock out games were played at 6pm, but the final and 3rd place match was at 6pm

The other slots for the 32 group games were 1pm, 4pm, 6pm and 7pm and they were shared equally during the group phase either 7, 8 or 9 games at each of these.

The tournament is expected to last between 38 and 40 days from early June start, an increase from 32 days so there will be a lot of double up games. Reckon there will be a lot of 1pm and 3pm eastern US time games as that is prime time kick off of 7pm and 9pm in central Euro time zone.

This sports travel website suggests, saysthe WC will be squeezed into 5 1/2 weeks and they will have to use all time slots and have a lot of double up games. The website suggests we should see the schedule released sometime in November - re dates and times that cities will host games with teams playing there slotted in, in late 2025. This article is dated 25th October.


When will the 2026 FIFA World Cup schedule be announced?


The schedule will be released by the end of the year, according to FIFA, with those within the industry indicating November could be the timeframe.

A group of international and North American based FIFA experts leading operational areas from transport and stadium operations to hospitality and pitch management have completed half of its next set of site visits. FIFA visited Miami, Houston, Atlanta, Kansas City, Boston, New York New Jersey, Philadelphia and Toronto in a nine-day span in September.

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Do we know anything for sure?

At the most recent official FIFA Congress, it was announced that the 2026 World Cup final will be on Sunday, July 19. When FIFA recently put the 2026 TV rights out to the market in Australia, it said the tournament would last 5 ½ weeks, which would mean the opening match will be around the week of June 7.

The 48-team tournament will be the biggest FIFA World Cup, with 104 matches. And another reason the schedule has not been released yet is because it wasn’t supposed to be 104 matches to begin with.
 
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June 7th(ish) start is good (should be) vintage would be finished by then and will be looking for a good excuse to stay home and drink....
From a FIFA Circular to all members associations dated 6 April 2023


The final of the FIFA World Cup 2026 will take place on 19 July 2026, with the date of the opening match to be confirmed in due course.
 

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Host cities on Pacific time zone are LA, San Francisco, Seattle and Vancouver so 7pm games are 12noon AEST and 1pm = 6am

Host cities on Eastern time Zone are New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Toronto, Miami and Atlanta 7pm = 9am AEST and 1pm = 3am

Central time zone 1 hour behind NY are Dallas, Houston, Kansas City 7pm = 10am AEST and 1pm = 4am

Mountain time zone 2 hours behind NY are Mexico City, Monterrey and Guadalajara 7pm = 11am AEST and 1pm = 5am

Under the old format there was 80 games and Canada and Mexico get 10 games each with USA 60. They haven't said what the split of the extra 24 games is but 16+16+72 probably will be the split.
 
He keeps winning them over. The how did that go comment mid video to Gary Neville relates to when Neville coached Valencia in 2016, where he only won just three of his 16 games in charge, including infamously losing 7-0 to Barcelona in the Copa del Rey.



 
Saw Nestory Irankunda's send off last night. What a farcical piece of refereeing. He was getting his shirt pulled, elbowed in the back right in front of the ref and linesman and crickets from them. This went on all night and he was given no protection.
 
Saw Nestory Irankunda's send off last night. What a farcical piece of refereeing. He was getting his shirt pulled, elbowed in the back right in front of the ref and linesman and crickets from them. This went on all night and he was given no protection.
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Behaviour of the Melbourne Victory crowd was down to their usual standard also.
 
Everton have been docked 10 points by the FA for breaching the financial rules (ie too much debt) and are once again in a relegation battle - although there's still enough time to fight their way out of it if they're good enough, and if their appeal against the penalty is successful.

Apparently Leicester are considering legal action (not to have themselves reinstated to the Premiership at Everton's expense), as they would have avoided relegation if the Everton penalty had been applied last season. Good luck with that, but given the £Millions at stake you can understand why.

 
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The first eight teams for the proposed second division of the national soccer competition have been announced, with another two to four to come early next year, and the second tier commencing in 2025. The first eight are all from NSW and Victoria, with several ghosts from the old NSL days making a reappearance. It remains to be seen whether any from SA, Qld or WA make it - Perth Glory are already under administration, so another WA team seems unlikely.


National second tier: Football Australia announce eight foundation clubs​

A national second tier is one step closer, with Football Australia revealing eight initial foundation teams.

The National Second Division (NSD) has been on the radar for many years, viewed as an important step for football's growth in the country.

Who are the National Second Division foundation teams?​

Eight teams have been announced as the foundation clubs for the NSD.

According to Football Australia, the respective teams were selected "based on their strong proposals and readiness to meet the standards set" for the competition.

"The establishment of the National Second Tier is a transformative step for Australian football, aligning perfectly with our 15-year strategic vision outlined in the XI Principles," FA CEO James Johnson said.

"It symbolises our commitment to reconnecting the football pyramid and enhancing the competitiveness of our national game."

The selected clubs are:

  • APIA Leichhardt FC
  • Avondale FC
  • Marconi Stallions FC
  • Preston Lions FC
  • South Melbourne FC
  • Sydney Olympic FC
  • Sydney United 58 FC
  • Wollongong Wolves FC

An additional two to four clubs will be chosen in early 2024, with the second tier to feature 10 or 12 teams.

How will the National Second Division work?​

Football Australia is currently considering two formats for the second tier, dependent on whether the league features 10 or 12 teams:

  • A 10-team competition with two rounds plus a finals series, totalling 18 regular season matches.
  • A 12-team competition with two rounds plus a finals series, totalling 22 regular season matches.
Once the NSD is established and has "matured", a promotion-relegation system involving the A-League Men competition is expected to be implemented.

"This is more than just a competition; it's a cornerstone in our mission to fortify the foundations of our sport," Johnson said.

"The National Second Tier will be instrumental in nurturing talent, engaging communities, and elevating the overall quality of football across the country."

LINK
 
There will be at least 1 team from a combo of SA / Tas / ACT / Qld team whether the NST gets to 10 or 12 teams.

On 29th August Football Australia said;


Football Australia is pleased to announce the conclusion of phase two, the Request for Proposal (RFP) phase of the National Second Tier (NST) Application Process.

The RFP phase, crucial for laying the groundwork for the upcoming NST, has resulted in submissions being received by the deadline on Monday 28 August 2023. Given the confidential nature of the RFP process, Football Australia will not disclose the clubs that have made submissions, nor comment on their submissions’ compliance or completeness at this time.

“We’ve taken significant strides towards establishing a robust framework for the National Second Tier. The response and the submissions received are testament to the passion and commitment of the football community to this pivotal initiative,” said James Johnson, CEO of Football Australia.

With the RFP process now finalised, the Assessment and Review Phase has now commenced. Each submitted proposal will undergo a rigorous evaluation to ensure its completeness and alignment with the set criteria and requirements. Should sufficient proposals be deemed suitable, this phase will be succeeded by the Completion phase, marking the end of the selection process.

Ensuring transparency and accuracy in these crucial steps, Football Australia has appointed BDO, globally recognised accounting and advisory experts, as an independent third party to provide their assistance to the process. Johnson further added, “Every decision we make during this process aims to guarantee that the National Second Tier is holistic, competitive, and adds immense value to Australian football. Collaborating with BDO assures our stakeholders of the process's integrity and fairness.”

Football Australia continues to target a 2024 launch of the NST, aiming to feature a minimum of 10 teams that will compete in a home and away league structure with finals. However, Football Australia may also explore a phased 'group based’ model, where the National Premier Leagues would influence the composition, adopting the ‘Champions League’ model.

Concluding his statement, Johnson remarked, “As we advance, our commitment is to the future of Australian football. Whether we finalise on the conventional league structure or adopt the 'Champions League' model, our vision remains clear – to elevate the stature of football in Australia.”


On the say day the official A- League site ( run by the professional clubs) said 8 clubs completed their submissions and 6 immediately put out social media info confirming this.



Football Australia (FA) has announced the Assessment and Review Phase for the proposed National Second Tier (NST) has commenced, with a handful of clubs confirming their bids.

The Request for Proposal (RFP) phase concluded with the target of a 2024 launch, though the FA did not disclose which clubs had made submissions after 26 teams had been shortlisted for the RFP.

Six teams have since announced their bids – at time of writing – including three from Victoria and two from New South Wales: NPLM VIC premiers Avondale FC, NPLM NSW premiers APIA Leichhardt, South Melbourne and Preston Lions, as well as Sydney Olympic and Sydney United.
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With a March kick-off previously stated among 10-16 teams, the next phase will see each submitted proposal undergo a rigorous evaluation to ensure its completeness and alignment with the set criteria and requirements with help from accounting and advisory experts BDO as an independent third party to assist.

Football Australia continues to aim for a league of at least 10 teams across a home-and-away structure with finals. However, a ‘group based’ model mirroring the National Premier Leagues is being considered.

The original 26 clubs shortlisted

*= Confirmed bid submitted

ACT

  • Canberra Croatia
  • Gungahlin United
NEW SOUTH WALES
  • APIA Leichhardt*
  • Fraser Park
  • Marconi Stallions
  • Rockdale Ilinden
  • Sutherland Sharks/Cronulla Sharks
  • Sydney Olympic*
  • Sydney United 58*
  • Wollongong Wolves
QUEENSLAND
  • Brisbane City
  • Brisbane United (Wynnum Wolves, Brisbane Strikers, Virginia United)
  • Gold Coast Knights
  • Gold Coast United
  • Olympic FC
  • Sunshine Coast Fire
SOUTH AUSTRALIA
  • Adelaide City
  • Football South Australia bid (Campbelltown City, North East MetroStars, West Torrens Birkalla)
TASMANIA
  • South Hobart*
VICTORIA
  • Avondale FC*
  • Brunswick Juventus
  • Green Gully
  • Heidelberg United
  • Melbourne Knights*
  • Preston Lions*
  • South Melbourne*

So looks like Keep Up A-League site made a mistake and didn't know/guess that Marconi and Wollongong had put bids by the due date. If the rest of their confirmed bids are correct then South Hobart and Melbourne Knights didn't get approved.

Old NSL clubs in the 8 who were there at the end in the early '00's are Apia Leichhardt, Marconi, South Melbourne, Sydney Olympic, Sydney United and Wollongong.

Preston Lions are the old Preston Makedonia club that played in the NSL but were relegated back to the Vic Premier League in the mid 90's. I don't know anything about Avondale FC other than they are a western Melbourne team.
 
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I didn't even watch it, to be honest. I was watching the local futsal team playing the state league semifinal. (We lost 4-1, but the second leg will be here.)

It's the second match in a row that I deliberately missed. Last week, I watched ARG-URU instead of COL-BRA.

CBF's incompetence is a sight to behold. We are navigating in uncharted territories in terms of bad results.

However, the people in charge wouldn't be able to do a mediocre job if they were living in the best-case scenario. There's no way they can find a solution for this mess.

I'm not going to follow that.
 
SOUTH AUSTRALIA
  • Adelaide City
  • Football South Australia bid (Campbelltown City, North East MetroStars, West Torrens Birkalla)

This has such a 1990-Port-v-SANFL-AFL-bid vibe that I don't know whether I laugh, be ashamed, or laugh in shame...
 
I didn't even watch it, to be honest. I was watching the local futsal team playing the state league semifinal. (We lost 4-1, but the second leg will be here.)

It's the second match in a row that I deliberately missed. Last week, I watched ARG-URU instead of COL-BRA.

CBF's incompetence is a sight to behold. We are navigating in uncharted territories in terms of bad results.

However, the people in charge wouldn't be able to do a mediocre job if they were living in the best-case scenario. There's no way they can find a solution for this mess.

I'm not going to follow that.
You guys are looking unusually poor at the moment. Uruguay is looking awesome actually! Beat both Brazil and Argentina comfortably in consecutive games.
 
This has such a 1990-Port-v-SANFL-AFL-bid vibe that I don't know whether I laugh, be ashamed, or laugh in shame...
I don't know if you are aware of it, but Adelaide City wore/ wear the black and white stripes - were called Adelaide Juventus for many years, but they were formed in 1946 as Juventus and basically wore the Italian club's strip* with the odd exception after they changed their name to Adelaide City to be a foundation club of the new National Soccer league (NSL) in 1977.

*Great irony is for the first few years they didn't wear the black and white strip of Juventus as the then SA Soccer Federation ruled that there could only be one black and white team per league and the black and white of Port Adelaide Soccer Club took precedence. So they wore a navy blue strip with a white “J” before finally being permitted to wear black and white stripes from 1949.

Like Port in the SANFL they dominated the league in the 1950's and won the League championship 5 times, including 4 in a row from 1956 to 1959 and were a strong club in the 60's and 70's winning more titles and were ready for the national league, not an expansion of a state league when the first of the 4 football codes set up a national club league.

In fact the NSL was the first national club league of any sports in Oz. Cricket had its state league comp for 100 years and national championships were the major competitions for how national teams were selected. Basketball's NBL was next in 1979.

Like Port found hard taskmaster Fos Williams, Adelaide City found hard taskmaster coach Zoran Matic. He came from Yugoslavia in the early 70's to play local Yugoslavian community club, ended up playing the first two or three years Adelaide City were in the NSL, then retired and was appointed coach in 1986 . He was coach of the 3 NSL championships Adelaide City won, 1986, 1991/1992 and 1993/1994 seasons and lost the grand finals for the 1992/93 and 1994/95 season. Also under Matic's reign, Adelaide City won 2 NSL Cups.

Johnny Warren often used to talk about Adelaide City being the first club who looked to Asia to help secure its playing and financial success, when Soccer Australia was stuck in the Oceania Confederation.

Matic retired after that 1995 grand final loss, but 12 months later had a season with Collingwood Warriors and a season with Marconi in Sydney before returning to Adelaide City for the last few years when it and the NSL was in a financial death spiral. Adelaide City's last year in the NSL was 2002-2003 season, they finished 3rd, and returned to the SA Premier League in 2004 and the last season of the NSL was 2003-04.

This photo is from the 1992/93 season based on Coca Cola Leagues sponsorship and Fairmont Homes club sponsors logo on the shirts. Next year some how both brewers Fosters and Coopers got their logos on the front of the shirt. Photo probably is a final at Hindmarsh Stadium

Fairmont Homes - isowned by Gordon Pickard (and his family) who helped create Adelaide United to fill the place of Adelaide City in the 2003-04 NSL season. He also helped Port Football Club out between 2009 and 2014 years when we were financially struggling.

There are several Socceroos in the side on this day. Starting fro, back row left
Alex Tobin ....... Milan Ivanovic ...... Carl Veart (current Adelaide United coach) ........
Robert Zabica ...... Damien Mori ....... / .......
Missing from this photo who played in the grand final is Tony Vidmar.

I know back row right is Steve Maxwell. Guy with the head band I know his face but mind is a blank. Pretty sure next to goallie Zabica is Joey Mullen and that's Carlo Talladira far right bottom row.

No wonder hard man Matic was able to be successful at Adelaide City, his back 5 included 4 long time Socceroos - Zabica, Vidmar, Ivanovic, and Tobin.

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You guys are looking unusually poor at the moment. Uruguay is looking awesome actually! Beat both Brazil and Argentina comfortably in consecutive games.

Bielsa is a genius. AUF is in a very good shape. The coach was the final piece they needed.



My futsal team lost, but not without controversy. The go-ahead goal was scored while one of our players was blacked out on the floor. It was ignored by the refs and opposing players, even though our coach kept pointing it out while the attack was going.

Here, the goals:


The city is furious. The first lot of tickets vanished quickly. Our gim is not big (1k, if that much), but it’s known as the toughest venue for visitors in the league. It’s going to be even tougher next Tuesday.





 
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I don't know if you are aware of it, but Adelaide City wore/ wear the black and white stripes - were called Adelaide Juventus for many years, but they were formed in 1946 as Juventus and basically wore the Italian club's strip* with the odd exception after they changed their name to Adelaide City to be a foundation club of the new National Soccer league (NSL) in 1977.

*Great irony is for the first few years they didn't wear the black and white strip of Juventus as the then SA Soccer Federation ruled that there could only be one black and white team per league and the black and white of Port Adelaide Soccer Club took precedence. So they wore a navy blue strip with a white “J” before finally being permitted to wear black and white stripes from 1949.

Like Port in the SANFL they dominated the league in the 1950's and won the League championship 5 times, including 4 in a row from 1956 to 1959 and were a strong club in the 60's and 70's winning more titles and were ready for the national league, not an expansion of a state league when the first of the 4 football codes set up a national club league.

In fact the NSL was the first national club league of any sports in Oz. Cricket had its state league comp for 100 years and national championships were the major competitions for how national teams were selected. Basketball's NBL was next in 1979.

Like Port found hard taskmaster Fos Williams, Adelaide City found hard taskmaster coach Zoran Matic. He came from Yugoslavia in the early 70's to play local Yugoslavian community club, ended up playing the first two or three years Adelaide City were in the NSL, then retired and was appointed coach in 1986 . He was coach of the 3 NSL championships Adelaide City won, 1986, 1991/1992 and 1993/1994 seasons and lost the grand finals for the 1992/93 and 1994/95 season. Also under Matic's reign, Adelaide City won 2 NSL Cups.

Johnny Warren often used to talk about Adelaide City being the first club who looked to Asia to help secure its playing and financial success, when Soccer Australia was stuck in the Oceania Confederation.

Matic retired after that 1995 grand final loss, but 12 months later had a season with Collingwood Warriors and a season with Marconi in Sydney before returning to Adelaide City for the last few years when it and the NSL was in a financial death spiral. Adelaide City's last year in the NSL was 2002-2003 season, they finished 3rd, and returned to the SA Premier League in 2004 and the last season of the NSL was 2003-04.

This photo is from the 1992/93 season based on Coca Cola Leagues sponsorship and Fairmont Homes club sponsors logo on the shirts. Next year some how both brewers Fosters and Coopers got their logos on the front of the shirt. Photo probably is a final at Hindmarsh Stadium

Fairmont Homes - isowned by Gordon Pickard (and his family) who helped create Adelaide United to fill the place of Adelaide City in the 2003-04 NSL season. He also helped Port Football Club out between 2009 and 2014 years when we were financially struggling.

There are several Socceroos in the side on this day. Starting fro, back row left
Alex Tobin ....... Milan Ivanovic ...... Carl Veart (current Adelaide United coach) ........
Robert Zabica ...... Damien Mori ....... / .......
Missing from this photo who played in the grand final is Tony Vidmar.

I know back row right is Steve Maxwell. Guy with the head band I know his face but mind is a blank. Pretty sure next to goallie Zabica is Joey Mullen and that's Carlo Talladira far right bottom row.

No wonder hard man Matic was able to be successful at Adelaide City, his back 5 included 4 long time Socceroos - Zabica, Vidmar, Ivanovic, and Tobin.

800px-AdelaideCity_1993.jpg

ball

So, history is repeating itself.

Wow!
 

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