Opinion Non-Crows AFL 10

[GROTTO]

Apologies if this has been posted before, this came across my Tiktok feed.

Spelling and grammar obviously not a priority for Port supporters.

 

[GROTTO]

Clubs that consistently make poor decisions like North Melbourne will do so even if they had more money and more picks.

The biggest monumental blunder North made was winning an irrelevant game in Tasmania in the Final round that cost them what is looking to be a generational talent in Harley Reid.

North didnt need to tank, they just needed to be playing the same way they have been in 2024.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Nailing that pick 1 can make a big difference though

Harley Reid will certainly help West Coast...

 

[GROTTO]

Harley Reid will certainly help West Coast...

The Eagles are desperate to get him to sign that contract extension. You can clearly see the kid is generational talent.

If he stays healthy, the RS will be a lock, so his value will only go up in 6 months time.

Even if he were to leave and return home, the Eagles Im sure will be very well compensated for him.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

Fold North Saints and Dogs

 

[rocket18]

Fold North Saints and Dogs

It really is laughable these tinpot Melbourne clubs are in an elite national competition. Joke.

 

[Billy_01]

We should really be beating this pies team next week

 

[FullyBigKPro]

We should really be beating this pies team next week

Need to shut down N Daicos, I'd put Keays on him and tell him to not leave his hip all day.

 

[FullyBigKPro]

Shuestar13 - not looking good here mate!

 

[cmndstab]

This is quickly turning into a rout. Could be a 100+ point margin.

 

[Shuestar13]

Shuestar13 - not looking good here mate!

Last years premiers vs last years wooden spooners. I’m totally shocked I tell ya

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Fold North Saints and Dogs

& Get back to a 16 team competition with Tassie.

Proper 30 games home & away.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Free agency at the moment is an anti-equalisation measure. The way our league is set up, with premierships waaaay above all other achievements, it will always be that way. Giving persistently poor teams a lot of extra cap space might help offset that a bit I guess.

They don't need to give the bad teams more cap than the good ones.

Just raise the roof against the minimum, so there's a meaningful difference in the amount that, say, North have to pay and the amount that Collingwood have to pay. North can build a war chest.

Players might not move for an extra 150,000 per year, but they damn sure would for another 500,000.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Last years premiers vs last years wooden spooners. I’m totally shocked I tell ya

Not a bad little catch from a rookie.

Air Harley reaches new heights with MOTY contender

Harley Reid shows off his aerial skills with a superb speccy against the Pies

www.afl.com.au

 

[Mostyn]

Nailing that pick 1 can make a big difference though

I hear what you're saying, but have many pick ones even ended up being the best player from their draft? Have many turned a club around?

They should, but they so rarely do.

 

[Mostyn]

The NFL has 32 teams and 53 man rosters and yet teams can rebuild.

Our problem is that the distance between minimum and maximum cap spend is too small, and there are too many restrictions on free agency.

Bad teams simply do not have enough extra money to lure big name players, and there is almost no player movement. Infact, with basically no real financial difference between offers, the movement is towards already good teams

Raise the roof higher than the floor and create a real pull factor.

This and your post on age are both very true.

A lot of NFL teams also find it hard to rebuild though, and that's with a less compromised draft than ours.

It's also possibly easier to draft in the NFL? You mentioned age, but also players often do one specialised task, so you can perhaps get a sense of their genuine potential with more certainty.

 

[dogs105]

I hear what you're saying, but have many pick ones even ended up being the best player from their draft? Have many turned a club around?

They should, but they so rarely do.

Top 20 Brownlow winners:


Brownlow Medallists taken at pick 1:
1 - Adam Cooney


Pick 2:
1 - Trent Cotchin

Pick 3:
3 - Chris Judd (2), Dustin Martin

Pick 4 and 5 and 6:
0

Pick 7:
1 - Ollie Wines

Pick 8:
1 - James Bartel

Pick 9:
0

Pick 10:
1 - Patrick Dangerfield

Pick 11:
0

Pick 12:
1 - Gavin Wanganeen

Pick 13:
2 - Shane Crawford, Patrick Cripps

Pick 14 and 15:
0

Pick 16:
1 - Brad Hardie

Pick 17, 18:
0

Pick 19:
1 - John Platten

Pick 20:
2 - Nat Fyfe (2)

 

[Mostyn]

John Platten - pick 19!

 

[BigBoSS_Riot]

But I don’t think it’s true that over the course of a decade it sorts itself out. Or maybe it is?

I think there’s a trigger. It might be that you get the midfield right, but then that’s what Kangas are trying to do but are failing. Brisbane brought in Hodge for experience. Maybe that’s it. It can’t be bring in an experienced coach. I think there’s too many fails there - Clarko, Malthouse at Carlton, wait and see on Hardwick.

For any of those teams at the bottom you’d want to carefully review those teams that broke the cycle and what are the common elements, and what didn’t work.

Melbourne brought in Roos to coach, and enlisted Cross and Vince in 2014. They only drafted their best midfielders in 2014-16, so the leadership pillars were already in place (which they then added to in 2017 with Lewis).
They never actually drafted their best key defenders (May and Lever), but at the time they had serviceable players in Frawley (who later left for Hawthorn), McDonald and Dunn. So while it wasn't a world beating defence, it wasn't a disaster.

So from a Melbourne perspective, it would appear that you need to get absolutely all of those factors right, as well as nailing player development.

North have nothing in the way of good KPDs (and the only barely decent players they have there are injured), the only older midfield leader they've brought in is Shiels (who had already retired, and is nowhere near as good as Cross/Vince/Lewis). So they've already gotten a lot wrong in my opinion.

 

[GreyCrow]

The NFL has 32 teams and 53 man rosters and yet teams can rebuild.

Our problem is that the distance between minimum and maximum cap spend is too small, and there are too many restrictions on free agency.

Bad teams simply do not have enough extra money to lure big name players, and there is almost no player movement. Infact, with basically no real financial difference between offers, the movement is towards already good teams

Raise the roof higher than the floor and create a real pull factor.

Interesting. So a Priority Cap Space instead of a pick where you can put $XXX outside the cap - a reverse Veterans cap

 

[morris086]

Would Nicks play him?

 

[hugecannon]

Would Nicks play him?

In the FP maybe

 

[Sanders]

Sheesh

 

[Southerntakeover]

This and your post on age are both very true.

A lot of NFL teams also find it hard to rebuild though, and that's with a less compromised draft than ours.

It's also possibly easier to draft in the NFL? You mentioned age, but also players often do one specialised task, so you can perhaps get a sense of their genuine potential with more certainty.

They don't. NFL teams that are unwilling to spend find it difficult. There are owners in the NFL who are not earnestly trying to win super bowls.

 

[Sanders]

They don't. NFL teams that are unwilling to spend find it difficult. There are owners in the NFL who are not earnestly trying to win super bowls.

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