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Only real micro cap I have or have ever had is TRE.

Which I haven't even bothered to look at for ages... only have about $3k slightly in the red.

I picked up a small parcel of IDT last week at 7.2c. It closed today at 8.5c.

I'm not a small cap player at all having been stiffed by LVT but got this one on a tip from my father in law who is a rather astute investor.
 

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Some healthcare stocks look pretty cheap right now, i think i like SHL the most. Been a bit of a sell off correlating with a fall in covid revenue, but non covid revenue was up on the year. Investing heavily into AI which could have huge benefits for their radiology.
 
Some healthcare stocks look pretty cheap right now, i think i like SHL the most. Been a bit of a sell off correlating with a fall in covid revenue, but non covid revenue was up on the year. Investing heavily into AI which could have huge benefits for their radiology.
Topped that up last week. Growth plus decent fully franked div just chuck it in the bottom drawer.
 

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I reckon that gold, silver, EMs (equity and bonds) and the AUD will all do well in 2024. US, Euro and Japanese government bonds as well.

Bitcoin and cryptominers are also beginning a big run - such that even I've invested in them, and I don't even like Bitcoin in principle.

EMs of interest right now include Argentina (new president) and Brazil (still cheap by historical standards). The Hang Seng and China A50 have had the life beaten out of them, but I'm not sure that they've bottomed yet.
 

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UBS is one of the most active of the big brokers when it comes to commentary on lithium minerals and ASX-listed lithium stocks. Ina recent research note, they warned lithium minerals prices could “overshoot” to the downside. Since then, they’ve been absolutely correct as lithium prices have continued to tumble.
Today, UBS expounded their thinking on lithium minerals prices and downgraded heavyweight Pilbara Minerals (ASX: PLS) in the process.

Picking the bottom in lithium minerals prices

Much of UBS’s recent analysis has been aimed at formulating a likely bottom in spodumene prices from the evolving lithium minerals demand-supply environment over the next three years. Spodumene is a lithium ore produced by Australian suppliers like Pilbara Minerals, Mineral Resources (ASX: MIN), IGO (ASX: IGO), Core Lithium (ASX: CXO), and Liontown Resources (ASX: LTR).



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Many lithium bulls argue there’s going to be so much demand for lithium minerals due to the switch to EVs and battery storage, that it’s just a matter of time until the current destocking cycle at Chinese battery manufacturers ceases, and prices resume their longer term uptrend.
UBS acknowledges in the longer term “It is hard to be all-out negative on a market that even on conservative estimates is expected to grow 2-3x by the end of 2030”, but in the short-to-medium term, the demand-supply dynamics aren’t so rosy.
To put some numbers to this narrative. UBS believes the demand side is likely to grow by around 25% in 2024, but supply is expected to grow 40%. The major driving force in supply is substantial expected growth in lepidolite production. China has vast reserves of lepidolite which is an alternative lithium ore to the better known spodumene.
UBS forecasts Chinese lepidolite production will increase from 130 kt this year to 189 kt in 2024, and 282 kt in 2025. It is going to be the marginal cost of production of Chinese lepidolite producers which largely determines the prevailing price for other lithium minerals in the near term.
UBS pegs this at around 80,000 RMB/t, and speculates that this could translate to a spodumene concentrate 6% price of around US$800/t. To put this into perspective, that’s roughly a little more than half of the current spodumene spot price.
It's worth considering the costs of production of local producers, and their likely profitability under such a scenario. Of course, UBS is just one broker, and there’s no guarantee that they’ll be right with their low-price projections.

Sticky situation for ASX lithium stocks

As a result of increased supply from Chinese lepidolite producers, as well as contribution from Chinese-backed African spodumene producers, and against a backdrop of “weaker demand”, UBS has downgraded their price forecasts for lithium prices by 45% in 2024, 35% in 2025, and by 23% in 2026.
According to UBS, lower lithium minerals prices will likely result in a potential halving in ASX lithium company profits in FY2025. In terms of overall share price impact, ASX listed lithium company valuations need to be pared back by “8-19%”. UBS provided specific analysis on Pilbara Minerals, IGO, and Mineral Resources:
Pilbara Minerals (PLS)
Pilbara Minerals (PLS) chart
Pilbara Minerals (PLS) chart
Rating: Downgraded from “Neutral” to “Sell”
Price target: $3.05 from $3.75
Earnings per share (EPS): -37.8% in FY24, -68.7% in FY25, -51.4% in FY26
Commentary: Market may respond negatively to pricing of the company’s spodumene product, especially against a backdrop of substantial capex expenditure and lower operating cash flow resulting in a lower cash balance.
IGO
IGO (IGO) chart
IGO (IGO) chart
Rating: Retained at “Buy”
Price target: $10.50 from $12.00
Earnings per share (EPS): -13.6% in FY24, -50.5% in FY25, -37.5% in FY26
Commentary: Still potential upside of around “20%” at lowered price target. IGO may be able to “reset the story” on incoming CEO and Cosmos (nickel) update. Key risk is how partners manage Talison and Greenbushes through the current weaker market pricing cycle.
Mineral Resources (MIN)
Mineral Resources (MIN) chart
Mineral Resources (MIN) chart
Rating: Retained at “Sell”
Price target: $49.00 from $53.00
Earnings per share (EPS): -39.6% in FY24, -50.9% in FY25, -32.0% in FY26
Commentary: Iron ore prices are trading around 30% above UBS’s estimate, so “improved earnings” in this division “could offset the weaker lithium business”.

Where do we go from here?

Any demand-supply environment is dynamic as participants constantly respond to their own economics and the prevailing market price.
I’ve mentioned a few times in lithium market-related articles that the cure for high commodity prices is high commodity prices. This is an old saying explaining the commodity price cycle. Basically, it means, when prices for a commodity are high, it encourages greater supply, which usually brings the market back into equilibrium and pares back prices.
The opposite is also true. A lower commodity price tends to subdue production and this can help support prices. On this point, UBS notes a supply side response to lower lithium minerals prices “should see a supply response in some form”. This could be fewer approvals for new lithium projects and the scaling back or cancellation of production increases at existing projects.
Ultimately, UBS says that Chinese production and refining capacity remains the key driving force in the lithium market.
 
Does anyone invest in commodity ETFs?

Looking for recommendations for gold.

I am currently building a position in DEG, looking at NST as a producer but ETF is an option.
 
It's absolutely crazy that you could have bought CBA during the covid era for $50 a share cheaper than it is now.
Yeah but pure fear and panic...

I didn't buy anything on market in the crash but at least participated in every cap raise i was offered, I think the NAB one was around $13.

Didn't sell anything either and just rode it out.
 

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