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Yes need knock back for bumping for sure. Also, I've noticed with bumping in other AFL games, if you bump successfully, you still stop or slow down as well which makes bumping pointless.
I think bumping for marking contests should just make the player getting bumped walk backwards a metre, not fall over. And I think collisions should warrant moving a player back, but just make it only slightly, half a metre or less. I think that's reasonable, it's not dramatically 5 metres like that game I showed you, that was just an example how I think it could look in your game but just dial it back to 20-50 cm. I think the player with the fastest movement/momentum at that time should be the one moving the player they collide into.
Good idea but I think QTEs would be more annoying than anything else. Especially if they last 2-3 seconds. The gameplay would have to stop or if it continues during the QTE you could get tackled by another player.
I don't mean by pausing the game, but with continuous movement of gameplay you have to press 3 randomized buttons to control a fumbled ball you're trying to mark, or to successfully fend off. Randomizing the buttons would make it a challenge, it would be hard to exploit that. Also, when you say you'll be tackled, I think that's fine, because you have to time it right and be more in a 1 on 1 situation, so then it's not exploitable. Maybe you can do it in 1 second, then it gives you a 3 second window to knock down only 1 opponent, then you have to activate the randomized button fend off if you want to do it again. And I don't think the user would try and use the fend off all the time, because of the continuous play they have to worry about.
I see what you meaning now. A cool concept. With things like this, I always ask, what will this add to the game and why are we adding it?
If you can think of other ways to introduce fumbling or fend offs but make it so it's not exploitable, that'd be awesome. I just thought randomizing the controls would achieve that. It's just an idea to make it more advanced. No Aussie Rules has fumbling, so it would make a welcomed addition if you could introduced it as a mechanic.
Fully agree with footy games need more contested situations rather than simple kick miark kick mark goal scenario.
Maybe in those situations, you should only fumble if you're in a contested marking contest, but in an uncontested marking contest, you don't fumble. But even when you fumble, you should implement some sort of a mechanic where you're given the chance to control the ball but make it so it's not exploitable and formulaic.
I think if you were to bring it in like that, have the opposition player be given the chance to counter it and be able to pin you down. I think a 1 second warning a fend off is happening, followed by 1 randomized button that lasts maybe half a second pops up that you can press to stop the fend off and pin the player down. That way it feels more fair and you're not invincible just because you were able fill up the bar, it can be countered. Or, maybe there's another way you can think of to counter fend offs, it should be like a mini challenge for both the fending off challenger and its opposition.
30-40% is too high fumble rate in my opinion. Would need to be around 8-10% to not be annoying or even lower, we wouldn't know until testing.
Not just an animation variation, I was thinking more so make the spoiled ball animation a possibility to mark on the rebound for one of the player's. Rather than it just being a player either marking it once on the first try, have the ball fly out of the hands like the spoil animation but make it markable as the ball flies away like the spoiled ball animation as it flies up in the air and drops. At the moment, you have that animation and physics but it's not markable as it's only a spoiled ball from an opponent instead of the mark attempters hands.
That's a really good idea, too, like a 2-3 second animation where the ball spins in the player's hands, maybe they can move away from the opponent to avoid getting spoiled, but can only do it without sprinting, or it'd dropped, whereas the opponent can sprint and knock it out. But also consider introducing the "ball drops out of hands and can be rebound marked on the second try" as a second variation of a fumble. Try and include both, I think they're both very doable, because you already have the spoil animation and physics.
Never thought about that. Footy Showdown started as a project for me to learn game dev and see if I could create a decent AFL game.
I actually thought you were employed or had been employed as a video game programmer but doing this as a side project. Surprised you surpassed almost every Aussie Rules video game with your gameplay footage.
No, no gamedev experience before FS. This is 4-5 years on now from where I started. When I began to put footy showdown out there, I'd been learning gamedev for about 2 years.
That's wild, the gameplay footage is far better than every other Aussie Rules game. Really only think Live 2011 is in a similar league, but your game very unique. I like how it contrasts Legend Bowl's arcadey style, you've tried to go with a more simulation game only with 8 bit graphics, instead of an arcade game. Aussie Rules really needs a simulation video game. I notice the speed of your game is more like Live 2011, more grounded with weight, 23 is very weightless and ice skating like. I hope you keep it weighted like that.
Not a bad idea. I was thinking about releasing when I have a standard season mode working. No trading etc just choose a team and play the rounds.
A lot of that is definitely on the dream list for the game.
