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Round 2 is the issue. Devonport won the game, but for some reason the result was changed to a forfeit against them.

Reference is "Devonport forfeit under competition rules"

Also believe the same thing happened to them in Round 1
 
Adds up perfectly on both ladders if you add the byes...

Which then leads onto another problem - why North and Lton have three byes and the other teams two. All teams played 16 matches...what was the point of that...? Some weird s**t going on during this season...
 
Gibbke said:
Adds up perfectly on both ladders if you add the byes...

Which then leads onto another problem - why North and Lton have three byes and the other teams two. All teams played 16 matches...what was the point of that...? Some weird sh*t going on during this season...
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It is all over the show. North Launceston had a Rd 8 bye, but also had a roster adjustment done that gave it a win.

Weirdness to the max
 

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2009 TSL Colts:
Round 2, 2009 - Saturday, 18/4/09 (Windsor Park)
Launceston 11.9 (75) d Hobart 8.12 (60)

Round 5, 2009 - Saturday, 9/5/09 (TCA Ground)
Hobart 12.8 (80) d North Hobart 10.3 (63)

Round 6, 2009 - Saturday, 16/5/09 (Devonport Oval)
Burnie Dockers 6.12 (48) d Hobart 5.9 (39)

Round 7, 2009 - Saturday, 23/5/09 (TCA Ground)
Hobart 19.12 (126) d South Launceston 8.6 (54)

Round 8, 2009 - Saturday, 30/5/09 (TCA Ground)
Glenorchy 10.9 (69) d Hobart 7.8 (50)

Round 12, 2009 - Saturday, 4/7/09 (TCA Ground)
Hobart 13.8 (86) d North Hobart 8.2 (50)

Round 13, 2009 - Saturday, 18/7/09 (KGV Oval)
Glenorchy 9.8 (62) d Hobart 4.7 (31)

2009 TSL Reserves:
Round 1, 2009 - Friday, 10/4/09 (TCA Ground)
Glenorchy 16.9 (105) d Hobart 9.4 (58)

Round 2, 2009 - Saturday, 18/4/09 (Windsor Park)
Launceston 17.16 (118) d Hobart 7.6 (48)

Round 3, 2009 - Saturday, 25/4/09 (Lauderdale Oval)
Lauderdale 16.16 (112) d Hobart 8.10 (58)

Round 4, 2009 - Sunday, 3/5/09 (Richmond Rec. Ground)
Clarence 15.18 (108) d Hobart 11.11 (77)

Round 5, 2009 - Saturday, 9/5/09 (TCA Ground)
North Hobart 20.15 (135) d Hobart 9.10 (64)

Round 6, 2009 - Saturday, 16/5/09 (Devonport Oval)
Devonport 16.15 (111) d Hobart 10.8 (68)

Round 7, 2009 - Saturday, 23/5/09 (TCA Ground)
South Launceston 10.11 (71) d Hobart 7.11 (53)

Round 8, 2009 - Saturday, 30/5/09 (TCA Ground)
Glenorchy 16.8 (104) d Hobart 10.6 (66)

Round 9, 2009 - Saturday, 13/6/09 (West Park)
Burnie Dockers 14.22 (106) d Hobart 4.3 (27)

Round 10, 2009 - Saturday, 20/6/09 (Lauderdale Oval)
Lauderdale 8.16 (64) d Hobart 7.9 (51)

Round 11, 2009 - Sunday, 28/6/09 (Snug Park)
Clarence 13.20 (98) d Hobart 7.9 (51)

Round 12, 2009 - Saturday, 4/7/09 (TCA Ground)
North Hobart 12.10 (82) d Hobart 10.11 (71)

Round 13, 2009 - Saturday, 18/7/09 (KGV Oval)
Glenorchy 23.11 (149) d Hobart 6.2 (38)

Round 14, 2009 - Sunday, 26/7/09 (TCA Ground)
Hobart 9.9 (63) d North Launceston 6.8 (44)

2010 TSL Colts:
Round 1, 2010 - Friday, 2/4/10 (TCA Ground)
Hobart 12.10 (82) d North Hobart 11.8 (74)

Round 2, 2010 - Sunday, 11/4/10 (KGV Oval)
Glenorchy 10.11 (71) d Hobart 10.5 (65)

Round 3, 2010 - Saturday, 17/4/10 (TCA Ground)
Clarence 10.11 (71) d Hobart 6.11 (47)

Round 4, 2010 - Saturday, 24/4/10 (Lauderdale Oval)
Lauderdale 16.18 (114) d Hobart 1.4 (10)

Round 5, 2010 - Saturday, 1/5/10 (TCA Ground)
Burnie Dockers 14.14 (98) d Hobart 5.6 (36)

Round 6, 2010 - Saturday, 8/5/10 (TCA Ground)
Hobart 13.5 (83) d Devonport 12.7 (79)

Round 7, 2010 - Saturday, 15/5/10 (Youngtown Oval)
South Launceston 20.22 (142) d Hobart 1.6 (12)

Round 8, 2010 - Sunday, 23/5/10 (North Hobart)
North Hobart 8.4 (52) d Hobart 7.4 (46)

Round 9, 2010 - Saturday, 29/5/10 (TCA Ground)
Lauderdale 9.11 (65) d Hobart 3.12 (30)

Round 10, 2010 - Saturday, 5/6/10 (KGV Oval)
Glenorchy 7.10 (52) d Hobart 7.7 (49)

Round 11, 2010 - Saturday, 19/6/10 (York Park)
North Launceston 21.12 (138) d Hobart 6.1 (37)

Round 12, 2010 - Sunday, 27/6/10 (North Hobart)
Clarence 8.13 (61) d Hobart 7.9 (51)

Round 13, 2010 - Saturday, 3/7/10 (Devonport Oval)
Devonport 24.13 (157) d Hobart 9.9 (63)

Round 14, 2010 - Saturday, 10/7/10 (North Hobart)
North Hobart 15.11 (101) d Hobart 8.11 (59)

2010 Statewide Reserves:
Round 1, 2010 - Friday, 2/4/10 (TCA Ground)
North Hobart 10.9 (69) d Hobart 6.8 (44)

Round 2, 2010 - Sunday, 11/4/10 (KGV Oval)
Glenorchy 14.15 (99) d Hobart 7.2 (44)

Round 3, 2010 - Saturday, 17/4/10 (TCA Ground)
Clarence 15.8 (98) d Hobart 5.10 (40)

Round 4, 2010 - Saturday, 24/4/10 (Lauderdale Oval)
Lauderdale 10.4 (64) d Hobart 4.7 (31)

Round 5, 2010 - Saturday, 1/5/10 (TCA Ground)
Bye - Burnie forfeit.

Round 6, 2010 - Saturday, 8/5/10 (TCA Ground)
Hobart 12.8 (80) d Clarence 7.7 (49)

Round 7, 2010 - Saturday, 15/5/10 (Youngtown Oval)
South Launceston 18.14 (122) d Hobart 3.4 (22)

Round 8, 2010 - Sunday, 22/5/10 (North Hobart)
North Hobart 18.13 (121) d Hobart 4.5 (29)

Round 9, 2010 - Sunday, 29/5/10 (TCA Ground)
Lauderdale 9.12 (66) d Hobart 4.4 (28)

Round 10, 2010 - Saturday, 5/6/10 (KGV Oval)
Glenorchy 18.10 (118) d Hobart 2.6 (18)

Round 11, 2010 - Saturday, 19/6/10 (York Park)
Bye - No match scheduled.

Round 12, 2010 - Saturday, 26/6/10 (TCA Ground)
Clarence 11.14 (80) d Hobart 2.8 (20)

Round 13, 2010 - Saturday, 3/7/10 (Devonport Oval)
Devonport 11.8 (74) d Hobart 7.7 (49)

Round 14, 2010 - Saturday, 10/7/10 (North Hobart)
North Hobart 15.25 (115) d Hobart 7.7 (49)

Round 15, 2010 - Saturday, 24/7/10 (TCA Ground)
Lauderdale 9.11 (65) d Hobart 9.6 (60)

Round 16, 2010 - Saturday, 31/7/10 (TCA Ground)
Glenorchy 16.11 (107) d Hobart 11.2 (68)

Round 17, 2010 - Saturday, 7/8/10 (Bellerive Oval)
-

Round 18, 2010 - Saturday, 14/8/10 (TCA Ground)
Hobart d Launceston on forfeit.

That's all the matches I have so far
 
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Ok...here's one I'm not buying:

R18-22-PON Sat 02:00 PM, Saturday, 13 Aug 2022
LIND 7.3 9.7 9.7 18.9 (117) Saturday, August 13
BRI 1.3 5.3 5.3 10.11 (71) check scores

Q by Q appears wrong, and I can't find another source. I don't believe that both teams went scoreless in the 3rd quarter...
 
Gibbke said:
Ok...here's one I'm not buying:

R18-22-PON Sat 02:00 PM, Saturday, 13 Aug 2022
LIND 7.3 9.7 9.7 18.9 (117) Saturday, August 13
BRI 1.3 5.3 5.3 10.11 (71) check scores

Q by Q appears wrong, and I can't find another source. I don't believe that both teams went scoreless in the 3rd quarter...
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As per the Brighton Robins Facebook page.

Three Quarter Time:
Lindisfarne 13 8 (86) lead Brighton 9.5 (59)

Rest of the quarter-by-quarters' are correct.
 
Ok, champions...I'm compiling records of the Old Scholars Association, and there's a team called New Town from 1985-95. Do they have anything to do with Glenorchy or the old New Town, or are they a completely separate entity...? Edit - after a bit of research on wiki - are Ogilvenians Technical Old Scholars and New Town Old Scholars the same team (which means no, they'd have nothing to do with Glenorchy)...?

Also, does anyone keep scores of this league? There are a few gaps, especially finals. Also, did they play two rounds over long weekends in the early 80's...? There are two Easters and one QB that would fit this scenario perfectly, but I don't have non-Saturday dates to confirm...?
 
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Gibbke said:
Ok, champions...I'm compiling records of the Old Scholars Association, and there's a team called New Town from 1985-95. Do they have anything to do with Glenorchy or the old New Town, or are they a completely separate entity...? Edit - after a bit of research on wiki - are Ogilvenians Technical Old Scholars and New Town Old Scholars the same team (which means no, they'd have nothing to do with Glenorchy)...?

Also, does anyone keep scores of this league? There are a few gaps, especially finals. Also, did they play two rounds over long weekends in the early 80's...? There are two Easters and one QB that would fit this scenario perfectly, but I don't have non-Saturday dates to confirm...?
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Yes Ogilvenians Technical Old Scholars and New Town Old Scholars the same team. And No they are a total separate entity to New Town/Glenorchy.
 
Gibbke said:
Ok, champions...I'm compiling records of the Old Scholars Association, and there's a team called New Town from 1985-95. Do they have anything to do with Glenorchy or the old New Town, or are they a completely separate entity...? Edit - after a bit of research on wiki - are Ogilvenians Technical Old Scholars and New Town Old Scholars the same team (which means no, they'd have nothing to do with Glenorchy)...?

Also, does anyone keep scores of this league? There are a few gaps, especially finals. Also, did they play two rounds over long weekends in the early 80's...? There are two Easters and one QB that would fit this scenario perfectly, but I don't have non-Saturday dates to confirm...?
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Ogilvie High School opened in 1937 and was first known as New Town Commercial High School. It was originally a co-education school but it became single-sex high school for girls in 1963.
So the last male students at Ogilvie went through in 1962.

New Town High School opened in 1919 and was first known as Hobart Junior Technical School.
Matriculation classes were first offered when the school moved to its present site in New Town in 1952 whereby it changed its name to Hobart Technical High School.
With the formation of separate Matriculation Colleges, this practice at New Town was discontinued after 1961 and in 1962 the school became a regional comprehensive high school and adopted the name, New Town High School in that year.
(I'm pretty sure Ogilvie and New Town High did have co-ed classes much the same as St Marys College did with St Virgils College's Barrack Street campus up until the mid 90s).

In 2022 Ogilvie High School and New Town High School merged and became known as Hobart City High School.

OTOS (Ogilvenians Technical Old Scholars) changed their name to NTOS (or New Town Old Scholars) in the 80s and folded in 1995.

PS: If you go through some of the old Southern Amateurs results from pre-1946 you'll see a listing for a team called "Clemes".
Clemes College was absorbed and amalgamated into The Friends' School in January 1946.
 
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Okely dokely, champions, I'm putting together what I've got of the Midlands Footy Association between 1960 and 1971. The gentleman who gave me a huge series of Excels really nailed this one, with only one score in twelve seasons missing by the look of it...

Q's - if anyone out there has rosters, that'd be awesome, because I have no home grounds for any of the games. The document, when ideally finished, features anyone who kicked five in a match, although the more achievable goal is double figures. I'm all about cross checking and confirmation, so if anyone has sources, they'll be appreciated. And the teams - Campbell Town, Oatlands, Ross and Tunnack, just the four right throughout the entire span. I'd assume CT were Essendon style Robins, and Oatlands these days are a Balmain style Tigers. I know nothing otherwise, would love to hear some old stories. Looked like a very competitive comp, with few thrashings despite the obvious superiority of Oatlands and the dodgy WL record of Tunnack...
 
Gibbke said:
Okely dokely, champions, I'm putting together what I've got of the Midlands Footy Association between 1960 and 1971. The gentleman who gave me a huge series of Excels really nailed this one, with only one score in twelve seasons missing by the look of it...

Q's - if anyone out there has rosters, that'd be awesome, because I have no home grounds for any of the games. The document, when ideally finished, features anyone who kicked five in a match, although the more achievable goal is double figures. I'm all about cross checking and confirmation, so if anyone has sources, they'll be appreciated. And the teams - Campbell Town, Oatlands, Ross and Tunnack, just the four right throughout the entire span. I'd assume CT were Essendon style Robins, and Oatlands these days are a Balmain style Tigers. I know nothing otherwise, would love to hear some old stories. Looked like a very competitive comp, with few thrashings despite the obvious superiority of Oatlands and the dodgy WL record of Tunnack...
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I have some stuff from later in the MFA days, or are you just looking from '60 to '71?
 
Ozguy said:
I have some stuff from later in the MFA days, or are you just looking from '60 to '71?
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The ultimate goal is every score of every game ever played in Tasmania, including double-ups so I can cross reference, so yes please, whatever you've got! With the lower leagues, I'm chasing date, round, venue, rough time (am, 12-3:20 classed as day, 3:20-5pm classed as twilight and 5pm or later classed as night), final goals and points, and everyone who kicked 5 or more goals. Ideally, every goalscorer so I can build season tallies, but realistically the lower leagues can't be relied on to provide all scorers or quarters, so I'm happy to get anyone who kicks 10 and the final scores. As long as I can build the ladder accurately. I'm also chasing every reserve and U19 score too...
 
Gibbke said:
The ultimate goal is every score of every game ever played in Tasmania, including double-ups so I can cross reference, so yes please, whatever you've got! With the lower leagues, I'm chasing date, round, venue, rough time (am, 12-3:20 classed as day, 3:20-5pm classed as twilight and 5pm or later classed as night), final goals and points, and everyone who kicked 5 or more goals. Ideally, every goalscorer so I can build season tallies, but realistically the lower leagues can't be relied on to provide all scorers or quarters, so I'm happy to get anyone who kicks 10 and the final scores. As long as I can build the ladder accurately. I'm also chasing every reserve and U19 score too...
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Pretty certain the stuff I have around '75 to '78 would have Goals, Best, Final Scores & Quarter by Quarter. At least for some games
 
Ozguy said:
Pretty certain the stuff I have around '75 to '78 would have Goals, Best, Final Scores & Quarter by Quarter. At least for some games
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The Midlands Association would up in 1971. Are we talking about other leagues here, particularly Oatlands?
 
Huon FA 1977 - can anyone list the scores of the three Kingston v Huonville games? Specifically, it appears that Huonville needed to win at least one to make the finals, which they did, but my source says Kingston won all three. Not discounting the possibility that match points were taken from Kingston in one of them, maybe player ineligibility, that sort of thing. If anyone has a late season 1977 HFA record lying around...?
 
Ploughing through the NTFL after I was given the rosters of a bunch of NTFL Records. Some various missing scores here, was wondering if anyone could help me fill them in:

Saturday, May 6 - R06-89- Sat ULV () WYN () WYN* by
R06 means round 6, 89 was the year. Ulverstone won this game via protest (the *), so that's how the record wrote it in, with no scores!
Also, the 1988 and 1989 records just wrote scores with no G-B added, so if anyone happens to have two complete seasons there...?

What day?
R01-90- ? BURN 21.14 (140) WYN 11.14 (80) BURN by 60

Saturday, August 18
R22-90- Sat DEL (143) EDEV () DEL by
R22-90- Sat BURN (156) GT (69) BURN by
R22-90- Sat PENG (68) SCOT (105) SCOT by
R22-90- Sat LTON (161) LAT () LTON by
R22-90- Sat WYN () SMITH (148) SMITH by
These scores were worked out by subtracting the difference from the R22 ladder, but they didn't add up perfectly...

Saturday, August 8
R17-92- Sat ULV () SMITH () ULV by
R17-92- Sat DEL () LTON () DEL by
R17-92- Sat BURN () EDEV () BURN by
R17-92- Sat SCOT () WYN () SCOT by
R17-92- Sat PENG () LAT () PENG by
Saturday, August 15
R18-92- Sat WYN () BURN () BURN by
R18-92- Sat LAT () LTON () LTON by
R18-92- Sat SMITH () DEL () SMITH by
R18-92- Sat PENG () SCOT () SCOT by
R18-92- Sat EDEV () ULV () ULV by
Missing the last two rounds of 1992. I turned it into a number puzzle on Excel...the differences and ladder do add up, but it's trial and error trying to get the right combination, tougher than expert level Sudoku! You can see by tracing a line through the teams that a single score will crack it open...e.g. knowing the scores ov Ulv v Smith sequentially gives you the next game, and so on. Fun as that may be, I just want the answer!

Round 1 1993. Wynyard v Penguin was also a disqualified match with no numbers shown.
Round 3 1993. Same with Latrobe v Burnie.

1997 NTFL P W L D GBF For GBA Agst % Pts
Ulverstone 18 15 3 - 321-261 2187 184-169 1273 171.80 60
East Devonport 18 13 5 - 254-243 1767 169-165 1179 149.87 52
Latrobe 17 11 6 - 258-192 1740 207-201 1443 120.58 44
Smithton 18 11 6 1 239-241 1675 224-207 1551 107.99 46
Scottsdale 18 10 8 - 206-206 1442 200-187 1387 103.97 40
Wynyard 18 8 9 1 260-244 1804 246-226 1702 105.99 34
Penguin 18 7 11 - 194-228 1392 241-194 1640 84.88 28
Deloraine 18 4 14 - 202-200 1412 250-251 1751 80.64 16
South Burnie 17 - 17 - 143-120 978 356-335 2471 39.58 -
LAT v SBURN either missing and played as a standalone game which LAT won, or a bye where 4 points were each awarded. Assuming missing match...?

R01-98- SCOT 9.7* (61) LTON 5.7* (37) SCOT by 24
R01-98- EDEV 11.12* (78) DEL 9.10* (64) EDEV by 14
R01-98- WYN 17.15* (117) LAT 12.12* (84) WYN by 31
R01-98- PENG 9.5* (59) SBURN 17.13* (115) SBURN by 76
R01-98- ULV () SLTON () SLTON by 37+
R03-98- PENG () SMITH () SMITH by
R13-98- EDEV 13.13* (91) LAT 3.7* (25) EDEV by 66
R13-98- SCOT 16.13* (109) DEL 10.11* (71) SCOT by 38
R13-98- WYN 16.14* (110) SBURN 8.5* (53) WYN by 57
R13-98- PENG () SLTON () SLTON by
R13-98- ULV () SMITH () ULV by
The * games are where I made up GB totals after successfully calculating points totals. Might be wrong though!

R04-99- WYN () EDEV () EDEV by
R04-99- PENG () SMITH () SMITH by
R04-99- ULV 23.21* (159) LTON 8.7* (55) ULV by 104
R04-99- LAT () SCOT () LAT by
R04-99- SLTON () DEL () SLTON by

The finals are not aligned with the ladder here. A top 6 system where 1v2, 3v6 and 4v5 in week 1:
2002 NTFL P W L D GBF For GBA Agst % Pts
Burnie 22 20 2 - 405-335 2765 215-212 1502 184.09 80
South Launceston 22 19 3 - 372-352 2584 185-208 1318 196.05 76
Northern Bombers 22 17 5 - 393-351 2709 183-166 1264 214.32 68
Ulverstone 22 17 5 - 342-281 2333 238-244 1672 139.53 68
Devonport 22 14 8 - 348-310 2398 254-205 1729 138.69 56
Latrobe 22 12 10 - 335-264 2274 272-235 1867 121.80 52
East Devonport 22 10 12 - 283-214 1912 326-305 2261 84.56 40
Launceston 22 9 13 - 263-242 1820 334-298 2302 79.06 36
Deloraine 22 5 16 1 260-255 1815 337-276 2298 78.98 22
Smithton 22 4 18 - 212-195 1467 371-304 2530 57.98 12
Wynyard 22 2 19 1 190-193 1333 387-385 2707 49.24 10
Penguin 22 2 20 - 185-203 1313 486-357 3273 40.12 8
Ulverstone and North reversed positions? WL adds up, but Ulv v Lat should be 3 v 6. Simon says Devonport are 15-7, North 16-5.
R10-02- NBOMB 13.14 (92) DEV 13.5 (83) NBOMB by 9
Most likely, Phil has put 13.5 instead of 13.15 against Devonport. I think this is what happened...?

Last one - if anyone has anything at all, please send it! I use all info at the very least for cross referencing, and the document is missing nearly all home grounds and dates/times, goalkickers and quarters. Many clashing score sources, too many to list...
 
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