Player Watch Father-Son Pick #60 (2021) - Jase Burgoyne

[port_adelaide_1870]

Him and JHF are our most clutch players. At other clubs it's the kids who are the least clutch, but at Port the kids are the players who have spent the least time with Ken Hinkley telling them that football is scary.

Unfortunately give it a couple of years and they both will be Hinkleyed

 

[sobrave]

The sanful is a shitshow and we can't rely on form there being an indication of how someone will go in the seniors. Jase is another one who's just better at the higher level

 

[Buget]

He has made that wing his own. I like how he gets from contest to contest, the more contests you can get to and influence as a wing the better.

And unlike some other characters Port have tried and traded on the wings during the Hinkley era, seems to want to win his own ball rather than cherry pick on the outside.

He will play 200 games if he keeps his up.

 

[JakeNeadeFan]

You can add skill and polish. Everything else he's got can't be taught.

Can you? I would think it's the opposite. I can't think of any player who has improved their kicking significantly since entering the AFL. I can think of multiple players who have become tougher in the contest - Amon, Polec, Farrell etc.

His kicking technique is just not going to be conducive to being a high skill player. Doesn't get any power through the ball, it's all up and down. Flubs alot kicks which result in poor turnovers, including his shot on goal last night.

He's still going to be useful, would probably be more useful playing inside than out, but will always be limited by well below average skills.

 

[True__Believer]

Can you? I would think it's the opposite. I can't think of any player who has improved their kicking significantly since entering the AFL. I can think of multiple players who have become tougher in the contest - Amon, Polec, Farrell etc.

His kicking technique is just not going to be conducive to being a high skill player. Doesn't get any power through the ball, it's all up and down. Flubs alot kicks which result in poor turnovers, including his shot on goal last night.

He's still going to be useful, would probably be more useful playing inside than out, but will always be limited by well below average skills.

We were literally saying that about Butters two years ago and he has improved the depth and strength of his kicks significantly. No reason Jase can't do the same thing with more experience and a couple more years of strength training

 

[Chrizzt]

He’s developing nicely in finding the ball but I still think he lacks hurt factor. Doesn’t really take the game on with run and carry and his kicks are often dinky sideways kicks. More than happy to give him more time though

 

[Port 2004]

Can you? I would think it's the opposite. I can't think of any player who has improved their kicking significantly since entering the AFL. I can think of multiple players who have become tougher in the contest - Amon, Polec, Farrell etc.

His kicking technique is just not going to be conducive to being a high skill player. Doesn't get any power through the ball, it's all up and down. Flubs alot kicks which result in poor turnovers, including his shot on goal last night.

He's still going to be useful, would probably be more useful playing inside than out, but will always be limited by well below average skills.

He is going to be more than useful. The kid can really play. His kicking can definitely be improved and will as he gains more experience and strength.

 

[dirty2]

Well done Burgoyne great game.

For a light weight is very good 1v1

 

[Peninsula Boy]

It was great seeing another young player break out especially a Burger.

I was surprised by his stoppage work as well. Good stuff.

And my understanding is that his brother is better than him.

 

[Port 2004]

It was great seeing another young player break out especially a Burger.

I was surprised by his stoppage work as well. Good stuff.

And my understanding is that his brother is better than him.

I believe that to be he case via directly from Peter B.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

I believe that to be he case via directly from Peter B.

Well hopefully he can ping a hammy in his draft year and we can pick him up late like Jase.

 

[Cosmicwinduptoy24]

Reminder that no other clubs bid on Jase in the draft. Seemed ridiculous at the time, and seems even more ridiculous now.

 

[Coobk001]

The sanful is a shitshow and we can't rely on form there being an indication of how someone will go in the seniors. Jase is another one who's just better at the higher level

I'm not sure what you mean, the form was there regardless of the SANFL issues.

 

[Coobk001]

He’s developing nicely in finding the ball but I still think he lacks hurt factor. Doesn’t really take the game on with run and carry and his kicks are often dinky sideways kicks. More than happy to give him more time though

I remember a young man in Dan Houston that also had like high 90's efficiency rating early days, but only ever took very safe kicks. It's very normal as he's developing his confidence. The fact he can find it 20+ times is a gift of its own, let's now hope he grows and starts being more creative and exhibiting the confidence to hit more damaging kicks. Another couple years and we'll be starting to see just where his game will get to.

 

[Chrizzt]

I remember a young man in Dan Houston that also had like high 90's efficiency rating early days, but only ever took very safe kicks. It's very normal as he's developing his confidence. The fact he can find it 20+ times is a gift of its own, let's now hope he grows and starts being more creative and exhibiting the confidence to hit more damaging kicks. Another couple years and we'll be starting to see just where his game will get to.

Yeah I'm more hopeful than doubtful - it seems his limitation at the moment is hesitation to take the game on and general risk aversion. I'd love to see him run and carry a lot more than he does in particular. I don't think this is a vision or skill issue, likely just needs to feel more confident in his ability and his belonging at AFL level to assist.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

I’m loving his reading of the play.
He seems to be getting to heaps more contests and getting into great positions.

Not everyone is going to have an elite leg, he just needs to keep working on it and know his limitations

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Burgs had a really good game, reminded me of young Duursma getting up and down the ground to help out forward and back.

Absolutely noticed the different in size between him and NWM, but Burgs is so strong around the ball, it didn't make much difference to his ability to impact a contest.

He's getting recognised by the media now too, the post-match show with Adam Cooney

Adam Cooney

Age

38

Ht

187cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.7

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.2

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.8

4star

highlighted a couple of super efforts in the last quarter.

 

[backtozero]

It was encouraging seeing him get so much of the ball. Seemed to be everywhere.

 

[VineValerian]

I remember a young man in Dan Houston that also had like high 90's efficiency rating early days, but only ever took very safe kicks. It's very normal as he's developing his confidence. The fact he can find it 20+ times is a gift of its own, let's now hope he grows and starts being more creative and exhibiting the confidence to hit more damaging kicks. Another couple years and we'll be starting to see just where his game will get to.

Played only around 20 games.
Still trying to find if he belongs at the level.
Let's see what he's like after 50-60.

 

[Marmozet]

10 coaches votes.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

10 coaches votes is just brilliant for a young lad.

Just what he needs to feel like he belongs too.

Riley who? Karl who?

 

[Peninsula Boy]

10 votes on the wing is awesome.

 

[Handyandy]

Great to see him develop
Love the romance of a quality father/ son
Certainly has the wonderful Burgoyne footy genes.
The penetration on his kicking should improve when he puts some weight on
I would put a 2kg weight in his shoes
Hope his younger brother is better as heard
But sad that we cut his older brother
Saw him in a trial game years ago & thought he was a talent, but many said he was simply too small
Now peeps are drooling over Hill/ Pickett, 2 other flyweights
Irony of this not lost on me

 

[TazD]

Shocked Ken gave him 10.

Edit. Yes, I'm dumb.

 

[Willsy10]

Shocked Ken gave him 10.

I’d be shocked too, considering max votes is 5


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