Roast Biased umpires - time for Carlton to make a statement

[The Flying Doormat]

Well said Numbers and to even claim they were biased is just a very immature and pathetic way to look at the game and result.

Umpiring decisions in our game were at times woeful, but to suggest they were intentionally making incorrect calls or being biased is just pathetic and embarrassing.

Next we will have supporters saying they were paid off at half time behind the change rooms...

Biased no. Inconsistent yes. Incompetent perhaps.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Biased no. Inconsistent yes. Incompetent perhaps.

Exactly Doully....

I suggested they were incompetent all along.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Yes the hawks got the rub of the green and were outplayed but to suggest every time they take the field they are umpires darlings is incorrect. 30 frees to 15 against when we played North and 33-19 against Port and how many frees did Buddy get with 2 blokes hanging off him all night?? One blatant in the back, both hands on the 2 on his back 40 m out? Play on!
Also Nicholls (ump 15) gave you a great run in the first half. But I do feel your pain, 2 wildly inconsistent halves of decision making ultimately went hawthorns way.

Was he the clown that was distracted by having an earpiece in and talking to the commentators ??

 

[KennyHunter9]

Maybe Juddy should call Chamberlain a knob, pay 20K and live on the good will of the footy world for the next 20 years. Works for the cheat Hird ... 20 years and counting.

 

[OldBlueFan]

Biased no. Inconsistent yes. Incompetent perhaps.

Yep, it was just a coincidence that their incompetence came upon them when it was possibly a free kick to Carlton and then miraculously went away when there was a possible free kick for Hawthorn.

The fact that the club has issued a "please explain" should be enough for folks to realise that the general feeling within the club is that the umpires showed a bias toward Hawthorn. Clubs don't take these steps lightly.

The simple fact is, there are as many 50/50 incidents in a game of football as there are blatant frees (if not more). When every single 50/50 decision goes the way of one particular team, it's very hard to claim that there isn't something affecting the decisions being made.

 

[Desmodromico]

Why the hell do we keep getting Chamberlain? The guy always has a concerted effort to screw us over e.g Waite time wasting for punching the ball for a behind

Wait didn't get pinged for punching the ball through for a behind. The ball had gone through for a GOAL and Wait was standing next to the fence when he punched the ball into the crowd in frustration. And apparently that was time wasting. Which is amazing because the rules say that time on is called when a goal is kicked. So how could Wait have wasted any time? This was a dumb decision by a stupid Maggot who does not know the rules of the game, as demostrated on Friday night.

 

[CrippsonBlue]

When every single 50/50 decision goes the way of one particular team, it's very hard to claim that there isn't something affecting the decisions being made

Yep, there may have been 10 free kicks go to the Hawks in a row but in the same time they're missing ours meaning you're looking at something like 20 decisions going against us in a row, which is just ridiculous. I know that can be a simplistic way of looking at it, but in this instance not so as there were around the same number not paid to us.

For people that say umps don't influence results, well that's akin to a player running around for the Hawks racking up 20 possessions in a half unopposed. If it were an actual player for the Hawks, that would have been deemed a match winning performance.

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Not sure how to link on my phone, but Rohan Connolly's article on the Age website is called "Umpires-Get Over It"... And references our last two games.

 

[BlueBelle]

Not sure how to link on my phone, but Rohan Connolly's article on the Age website is called "Umpires-Get Over It"... And references our last two games.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/suck-it-up-and-move-on-20130616-2ochw.html

Here's the link

 

[OldBlueFan]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/suck-it-up-and-move-on-20130616-2ochw.html

Here's the link

You would think that journos might at least have some degree of comprehension whether it be reading or listening. Rohan, no-one's saying that a free kick count of 22-13 (or even 14-4 after half time) in and of itself is the problem. The problem is paying frees to one team that you ignore for the other, or ignoring possible frees for one team that you pay to the other.

The problem in other words is CONSISTENCY OF INTERPRETATION, across games, within games and most importantly between teams in specific games.

Interesting that Connelly comes out swinging at Malthouse after he gets put in his box ny the same man on radio just 2 days ago.

 

[LanceRomance]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/suck-it-up-and-move-on-20130616-2ochw.html

Here's the link

Isn't he a bomber fan?

Maybe his next article could be called "just shoot up and move on"

Lol @ asadadon

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/suck-it-up-and-move-on-20130616-2ochw.html

Here's the link

Thanks!

 

[Aphrodite]

Isn't he a bomber fan?

Maybe his next article could be called "just shoot up and move on"

Lol @ asadadon

He sure is an EssADA fan.

"Whatever it takes" !!

 

[Aphrodite]

You would think that journos might at least have some degree of comprehension whether it be reading or listening. Rohan, no-one's saying that a free kick count of 22-13 (or even 14-4 after half time) in and of itself is the problem. The problem is paying frees to one team that you ignore for the other, or ignoring possible frees for one team that you pay to the other.

The problem in other words is CONSISTENCY OF INTERPRETATION, across games, within games and most importantly between teams in specific games.

Interesting that Connelly comes out swinging at Malthouse after he gets put in his box ny the same man on radio just 2 days ago.

Funny about that OBF.

I was thinking the same.

 

[carlton2dabone]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/suck-it-up-and-move-on-20130616-2ochw.html

Here's the link

Connelly's a goose, YES we want fewer free kicks in the game but we want whatever free kicks that are paid to be for blatant indiscretions, not for a 'technical' infringement.

FFS, they ping a player for dragging the ball in after he makes the play and gets hands on the ball only to be instantaneously jumped on my 5 blokes who hold the ball in BUT they won't pay a free against a player who takes on other players and gets caught without correctly disposing of the ball.

They ping a player for high contact when the opponent ducks or drops his knees resulting in a light brush of his shoulder, BUT they won't give Murphy a free after he gets his jaw broken from an opponents shoulder.

They ping a player for getting a quick kick out of the pack that ends up across the boundary line BUT they won't ping another player that has all the time and space in the world but still finds the line.

So yes we want fewer free kicks but let's give them only for blatant infringements and not 50/50 calls.

 

[Aphrodite]

Controversial umpiring decisions from Round 12

MICK SEEING BLUE
Carlton coach Mick Malthouse was fuming after the Blues lost the match and the free kick count against Hawthorn on Friday night — and that was just a window to the anger coming from Blues fans in the stands and watching at home as the Hawks went on a 10-0 free kick run on the way to a 14-4 tally in the second half (22-13 for the match).

Three free kicks don’t have to be even to be fair, but drawing particular fury was the liberal interpretation of the “illegal disposal” rule. Luke Hodge clearly got away with one when he sharked a ruck hitout and burst clear, taking half a dozen steps before being run down by Chris Judd. The ball dropped from his hands but no free kick was awarded. In the final term the Blues were dudded again when Brad Sewell tried to handball as he was tackled, missed the ball and it dropped to the ground. Again there was no whistle and the Hawks goaled from the following passage of play.
The final straw for Blues fans came when Sam Mitchell tossed a water polo pass to a teammate and the whistle finally blew — for a free kick against Jarrad Waite, who had infringed moments earlier.

Controversial umpiring decisions from Round 12

 

[billybloggs]

It is not the free kicks against us that hurts its the frees we don't get. GO TO FOOTYWIRE and check out how far behind the rest of the comp for frees for we are. 186 at present. The Kangas on 257 with a game in hand. If the Kangas score there ave to date of 23, they will be on 280 for the same amount of games played. That will be a difference of 94 frees. The only team that gets near us is the saints. I would say due to the milney factor.
We see it week in week out, maybe the Mick factor for us ? Who knows, but one thing for sure is the umpires do not treat us equally unless it is an interstate team playing here. A local team and we are behind the eight ball. THE FACTS ARE THERE FOR ALL TO SEE.

 

[OldBlueFan]

Controversial umpiring decisions from Round 12

Controversial umpiring decisions from Round 12

Add to that list the mark to Matty K at CHF (which should also have been 50m since the late contact knocked the ball out of his hands). And the non deliberate OOB for them vs the deliberate OOB for us. The one that wasn't paid being on our HFF and the one that was paid being between their HFF and the wing (guaranteeing another inside 50 play).

 

[southcab]

Umpires need to umpire as the game unfolds not umpire the AFL ladder, How many times do we see the decision go to the team that's higher on the ladder.
There no doubt in my mind that this is what is unfolding .

 

[BlueTongue]

Must admit I'm still not over last Friday. Seriously the worst umpiring I've ever seen.
I think somebody with a copy of the game video, and a bit of time on their hands should dissect every major play from that game and put a compilation together of all the frees paid & Not paid for all to witness. I'm betting it'll look twice as bad when you see them all lumped together, and the fact that the interpretation was squarely favouring the Hawks. Do it somebody!