Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

[Slippery Pete]

How good is Bro Science.

 

[Slippery Pete]

They then proceed to draw a very long bow

Given the article released this week from the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners…in particular the excerpt quoted below…
I think it’s incumbent upon you to very clearly outline whether you still believe this product should have been mandated on people.

Long COVID Sufferers can take heart

This article acknowledges the increased knowledge, acceptance and awareness of long COVID but emphasises the need for more guidance on handling and diagnosing long COVID and supporting patients.

www1.racgp.org.au

Recipients of two or more injections of the mRNA vaccines display a class switch to IgG4 antibodies. Abnormally high levels of IgG4 might cause autoimmune diseases, promote cancer growth, autoimmune myocarditis and other IgG 4-related diseases (IgG4-RD) in susceptible individuals.29 There are clear implications for vaccine boosting where these and similar observations8,22,30 relating to COVID-19 vaccination and the incidence of long COVID-like symptoms are substantiated, adding further to public health officials’ concerns. Understanding the persistence of viral mRNA and viral protein and their cellular pathological effects after vaccination with and without infection is clearly required. Because COVID-19 vaccines were approved without long-term safety data and might cause immune dysfunction, it is perhaps premature to assume that past SARS-CoV-2 infection is the sole common factor in long COVID.8

 

[ADL9798]

Given the article released this week from the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners…in particular the excerpt quoted below…
I think it’s incumbent upon you to very clearly outline whether you still believe this product should have been mandated on people.

Long COVID Sufferers can take heart

This article acknowledges the increased knowledge, acceptance and awareness of long COVID but emphasises the need for more guidance on handling and diagnosing long COVID and supporting patients.

www1.racgp.org.au

Recipients of two or more injections of the mRNA vaccines display a class switch to IgG4 antibodies. Abnormally high levels of IgG4 might cause autoimmune diseases, promote cancer growth, autoimmune myocarditis and other IgG 4-related diseases (IgG4-RD) in susceptible individuals.29 There are clear implications for vaccine boosting where these and similar observations8,22,30 relating to COVID-19 vaccination and the incidence of long COVID-like symptoms are substantiated, adding further to public health officials’ concerns. Understanding the persistence of viral mRNA and viral protein and their cellular pathological effects after vaccination with and without infection is clearly required. Because COVID-19 vaccines were approved without long-term safety data and might cause immune dysfunction, it is perhaps premature to assume that past SARS-CoV-2 infection is the sole common factor in long COVID.8

Copy pasted from previous responses to the 50-odd other times you've asked me this.

• During 2021, numerous published studies and systematically collected disease surveillance data from around the world demonstrated that vaccines did provide a substantial and durable reduction in risk of transmission for the predominant Delta variant (which was circulating at the time vaccine mandates were introduced), as well as reducing severity of illness.
• This all changed when Omicron arrived in late November 2021 - while vaccine efficacy against severe illness remained high, they were far less effective when it came to reducing risk of transmission for this variant. No arguments there.
• The debate from this point on (and a debate that’s worth having) was how quickly any policies instated by governments and private businesses which were predicated on vaccines reducing risk of infection should have been lifted. It’s not reasonable to argue that they were never justified or had any value in any setting whatsoever in the first place, particularly higher risk settings like health and aged care.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Copy pasted from previous responses to the 50-odd other times you've asked me this.

None of that answer addresses the most significant point, a point I made numerous times back when mandates were rolled out, and one which has finally been acknowledged in that paper.

“….COVID-19 vaccines were approved without long-term safety data and might cause immune dysfunction”

If you believe long-term data was not important, and that it was okay to ”guess” on people’s lives, health, and livelihoods, then just say that.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Terrible

Six stabbed to death, killer gunned down by police officer in horrific Bondi Junction attack​

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/police-operation-underway-reports-of-stabbings-at-bondi-junction/news-story/11e24b698fa13dc4c0ad735ab31fb1a1?utm_source=AdelaideNow&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Editorial&utm_content=ADV_BREAKING_NEWS-ALERT_01&net_sub_id=285893080&type=curated&position=1

 

[OneGreatClub]

Terrible

Six stabbed to death, killer gunned down by police officer in horrific Bondi Junction attack​

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/police-operation-underway-reports-of-stabbings-at-bondi-junction/news-story/11e24b698fa13dc4c0ad735ab31fb1a1?utm_source=AdelaideNow&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Editorial&utm_content=ADV_BREAKING_NEWS-ALERT_01&net_sub_id=285893080&type=curated&position=1

Tragic

 

[ADL9798]

Incredibly sad.

Details of the killer emerging - reports suggesting he had schizophrenia, police are exploring whether he had deliberately targeted women (13 of the 16 victims were female).

Can’t imagine how frightening it would have been for them, particularly the mother trying to protect her baby. Hard to fathom what kind of a grotesque person goes out of their way to stab a baby in a pram.

Conversely some pretty incredible acts of bravery to prevent this tragedy from becoming any worse.

 

[ADL9798]

Coward. I noticed this in the CCTV, knife in hand he literally runs straight past or even away from a few men.

 

[kirky]

So the judge has ruled under probabilities that Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins.

Why am I sitting here totally unsurprised with that outcome.

 

[OneGreatClub]

So the judge has ruled under probabilities that Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins.

Why am I sitting here totally unsurprised with that outcome.

I think that with his backers, Lehrmann felt infallible. Good outcome.

 

[kirky]

I think that with his backers, Lehrmann felt infallible. Good outcome.

Now just expect a pile on the judge by the goons on Sky After Dark. They will double down on it.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Now just expect a pile on the judge by the goons on Sky After Dark. They will double down on it.

It has been a bad couple of days for Fox misogynists and racists.
First the killer in Bondi wasn’t an illegal immigrant, in fact an immigrant tried to stop him ,and today poster boy Lehrmann found to be guilty of rape.

 

[relapse]

Now just expect a pile on the judge by the goons on Sky After Dark. They will double down on it.

Pretty sure that Bolt was demanding for the prosecutor to be sacked once the trial ended, no doubt there will be some ridiculous narrative tonight painting Bruce as a victim of an unfair justice system.

Honestly this civil trial has turned into one of the biggest own goals I have ever seen, after escaping the criminal trial by the skin of his teeth, why would anyone be stupid enough to reopen pandora's box in the hope of getting a pay day.

No doubt there's a whole lot of people (possibly even some who frequent this thread) who are now waiting for Bolt and Murry etc to tell them what to think tonight.

 

[kirky]

Pretty sure that Bolt was demanding for the prosecutor to be sacked once the trial ended, no doubt there will be some ridiculous narrative tonight painting Bruce as a victim of an unfair justice system.

Honestly this civil trial has turned into one of the biggest own goals I have ever seen, after escaping the trial why would anyone be stupid enough to reopen pandora's box in the hope of getting a pay day.

No doubt there's a whole lot of people (possibly even some who frequent this thread) who are now waiting for Bolt and Murry etc to tell them what to think tonight.

Because he mistakenly thought the mistrial meant he was innocent.

It has always been interesting how the media whenever they discussed BL and that mistrial always said that “no findings were found against him”.

Will be interesting to see how this outcome is reported.

 

[relapse]

Because he mistakenly thought the mistrial meant he was innocent.

It has always been interesting how the media whenever they discussed BL and that mistrial always said that “no findings were found against him”.

Will be interesting to see how this outcome is reported.

No doubt that he's spent too much time listening to the Sky News After Dark coverage and those on the right who were running defence for him and he started believing his own bullshit.

They'll definitely claim that it was a miscarriage of justice etc and no doubt try and get him to lodge an appeal, I read somewhere that all his legal bills are being paid for him so clearly there's people in the background who are throwing money at this. I guess it remains to be seen whether people are willing to continue picking up his legal tab as to whether there will be an appeal.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

So the judge has ruled under probabilities that Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins.

Why am I sitting here totally unsurprised with that outcome.

Said before this case he may end up doing a Ben Roberts-Smith own goal.

He's a proven grub & liar.

Channel 7 are having a habit if backing the wrong horse...

 

[Brett Cummings]

This stupid idiot using the bondi incident as a hate campaign against men. Absolute scumbag. The guy was mentally ill ffs.

 

[OneGreatClub]

This stupid idiot using the bondi incident as a hate campaign against men. Absolute scumbag.

Yes, it’s unfair to extrapolate like this that the majority of males are violent ( although a lot of women do suffer domestic violence)
This type of commentary is familiar to conservatives using a migrant crime as a hate campaign against all immigrants, isn’t it.

 

[adelaidecrows]

This stupid idiot using the bondi incident as a hate campaign against men. Absolute scumbag.

Yes, it’s unfair to extrapolate like this that the majority of males are violent ( although a lot of women do suffer domestic violence)
This type of commentary is familiar to conservatives using a migrant crime as a hate campaign against all immigrants, isn’t it.

Clearly the perpetrator had a mental health issue and thats why the tragedy occurred. Not sure linking it to violence against women and domestic violence does the issue any good.

There is no excuse for violence against women but statistically its more of a symptom of rampant drug and alcohol abuse amongst lower socio-economic communities. It would be better served trying to get people to look in those areas than a blanket accusation of misogyny towards men like its every mans fault.

 

[ADL9798]

Pretty sure that Bolt was demanding for the prosecutor to be sacked once the trial ended, no doubt there will be some ridiculous narrative tonight painting Bruce as a victim of an unfair justice system.

Honestly this civil trial has turned into one of the biggest own goals I have ever seen, after escaping the criminal trial by the skin of his teeth, why would anyone be stupid enough to reopen pandora's box in the hope of getting a pay day.

How great was this statement from Justice Lee in his concluding remarks.

No doubt there's a whole lot of people (possibly even some who frequent this thread) who are now waiting for Bolt and Murry etc to tell them what to think tonight.

Haha.

 

[Coopers]

Yes, it’s unfair to extrapolate like this that the majority of males are violent ( although a lot of women do suffer domestic violence)
This type of commentary is familiar to conservatives using a migrant crime as a hate campaign against all immigrants, isn’t it.

But, she didn't say anything about the majority of men at all in her tweet. She just said there was a problem.

She's not wrong, just a s**t way to leverage the message.

 

[kirky]

Said before this case he may end up doing a Ben Roberts-Smith own goal.

He's a proven grub & liar.

Channel 7 are having a habit if backing the wrong horse...

Well the person backing the wrong horse is one Kerry Stokes, Australia’s version of Rupert Murdoch.

 

[Coopers]

Well the person backing the wrong horse is one Kerry Stokes, Australia’s version of Rupert Murdoch.

Isn't Rupert Murdoch Australia’s version of Rupert Murdoch?

 

[kirky]

Isn't Rupert Murdoch Australia’s version of Rupert Murdoch?

Thought Rupert had renounced his Australian citizenship.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

16 years old FFS

Sydney church stabbing 'religiously motivated', ASIO boss says

www.9news.com.au