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A string of Hawk signings this morning.
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We’ve got pick 2!
More than half of the Vic girls predicted to go top 40 in the draft are from Dandenong, Eastern or Sandringham, so we are one of the few clubs on their side of town. Hopefully they will be keepers.
How did we get pick 2 by the way?
This will see the Hawks receive pick No. 9 while the Tigers will receive picks No.16 and 18 in the Victorian draft pool.
Hawthorn has signed a trio of talent heading into its inaugural AFLW season, with Ainslie Kemp, Isabelle Porter and Catherine Brown all committing to the club.
The Hawks completed a trade for Ashmore on Tuesday, welcoming the 30-year-old as well as Picks 26 and 27 of the Victorian draft whilst giving Picks 23 and 41 to Melbourne and Pick 32 to Richmond as part of a three-way trade.
On Wednesday, the Hawks received Picks 12,14 and 31 from Carlton in exchange for Pick 9 while also gaining Picks 13 and 40 from North Melbourne whilst exchanging Picks 14, 29 and 31.
This leaves Hawthorn with Picks 1, 3, 5, 6, 11, 12, 13 and 40 in the Victorian pool, bringing a close to a hugely successful Sign and Trade Period.
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The recruiting team will now turn its attention to the NAB AFLW Draft on June 29.
Galway star Áine McDonagh set for AFLW move
McDonagh will become the first Irish AFLW Hawk.www.the42.ie
Listed on FIBA at 188cm (genuine ruck height) and turning 24 in August.
Interesting we haven't heard anything about Aine joining yet.
HAWTHORN is set to sign multi-talented Irishwoman Aine McDonagh to its inaugural list.
McDonagh plays Gaelic football for County Galway as a half-forward and midfielder and is also a basketballer with NUIG Mystics.
Womens.afl understands a few final details need to be ironed out, but McDonagh will be donning the brown and gold next season.
What this "in the victorian pool", do they separate the regions?
I never knew this until recently.yes, because its semi professional, they nominate a state they want to play in, so we get to pick a bunch of Victorian girls and the odd Tassie ect that nominate the Victorian Zone
here are my thoughts on the Victorian ProspectsI never knew this until recently.
Montana Ham seems to me to be a unique player in that she is so big for a midfielder, think Cripps/Bont//Fyfe type for the womens footy, she tackles hard which i like, she can also run on the outside, but doesnt as often as she could, when she floats forward she can pack mark like a key forward, she generally makes good decisions, in her interviews she seems like she has big goals, as a kid she wanted to make it in the AFL as the 1st woman player i believe she said, which shows a determination to make it.Great write up Davo-27
The choice between Montana Ham and Jasmine Fleming is the one that intrigues me. From what I have read Fleming also plays cricket for Box Hill, so she is right under our noses and is also Hawks supporter. From what I read, she has great speed, a lethal right boot, strong character and is also late convert so she has plenty of upside. Apparently she enjoys watching Conti and Dangerfield as she shares a lot of similiar traits.
I just wonder if Montana Ham is good for age group because of how big she is compared to the other girls or if's a lot more than that.
What are thoughts on the choice between Montana Ham and Jasmine Fleming?
Thanks Davo. I really appreciate your very well thought out analysis on both players.Montana Ham seems to me to be a unique player in that she is so big for a midfielder, think Cripps/Bont//Fyfe type for the womens footy, she tackles hard which i like, she can also run on the outside, but doesnt as often as she could, when she floats forward she can pack mark like a key forward, she generally makes good decisions, in her interviews she seems like she has big goals, as a kid she wanted to make it in the AFL as the 1st woman player i believe she said, which shows a determination to make it.
Jasmine Fleming is an endurance midfielder, she will pop up on all lines and get plenty of the ball, she adds run and carry to the midfield, her disposal is ok, she kindve goes un-noticed at times but is a part of many links in plays, in mens footy she would be the Sam Walsh type
i guess the question is, do you want a prospect to be big unique potentially a power mid, or do you want a reliable endurance machine that will run all over the ground gathering poss?, i think Hams size is something that could help her have an impact in the AFLW
Montana Ham has being playing at the Western Jets for 4 years, so she debuted as a 15 yr old and has had years of 20.3, 18.0 and 24.1 disposals average each year since she was 16-17-18(consistently very good), she had a big AFLW Academy game, also averaging 23.3 disposals for Vic Metro(winning the MVP too), she has a high contested poss rate and handballs at a high rate, contested poss is a good indicator they will be valuable at the highest levels.
Jasmine Fleming has only been playing for 2 years and has stats of 20.0 and 25.7 so theres not much difference in the amount of disposals each player has, she averaged 22.5 for Vic Metro as well, she is more the handball receiver and runner, very similar to a Sam Walsh, the Patrick Dangerfield comparison is an odd one because he relies on power and being a strong bodied presence whereas Fleming is more the run her opponents off their feet and get involved in as many links of play as possible
thats why i choose Ham over Fleming, they have similar numbers of poss, Fleming kicks more goals consistently which is a huge plus for her, but the size and contested side of Hams game will translate better as an inside mid and her size and weight helps with tackling and her solid marking ability, we're also forgetting Charlotte Baskaran who i also consider worthy of this conversation for pick 1, she is a ferocious tackler and has a real desire to make it and even hopes to coach at the AFLW level some day, she also stood out to me with some of her efforts for Vic Metro which caught my eye, the way she runs lines and can burst out of a pack, her tackling is brave and strong, she makes good decisions and she seems a real social butterfly in her interviews too.
the good news is, we get 2 of Ham, Fleming and Baskaran, i would take Ham and whoever Essendon doesnt take.
*just some of my thoughts, im not an expert on AFLW or the AFLW draft, i've only seen a few games so dont take my thoughts too seriously because i dont profess to be that well versed on womens footy, just my thoughts on what i've seen.
Fixture will hopefully be out in the next fortnight so we should know reasonably soon.I see the girls training regularly at Box Hill, but any news on where we will be playing Matches?