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[Redline]

My feeling is that Hayward is a done deal on big bucks to come home. Where is the noise that he's re-signing or going to Carlton from? Didn't he say no to the blues?

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The club is certainly confident they are getting a quality player in.

I don't see how the Swans can keep Heyward on big money. He is a good player but they have some absolute elite players that need to pay.

 

[George Kramer]

The club is certainly confident they are getting a quality player in.

I don't see how the Swans can keep Heyward on big money. He is a good player but they have some absolute elite players that need to pay.

We were last year too, saying the same things then as we are now

 

[huludicidal]

With Rankine attending over 50% CBAs against Collingwood for the third time in his career and having a breakout game spending relatively little time forward, I think a goalscoring threat is pretty important. Enough that it should be part of the pipe dream scenario, to free up Rankine to spend more time in the middle and only go forward when it suits the team (for instance to break a tag or as a resting position).

If we miss Hayward as it seems we probably will, is there anyone else we would want? I guess Zuuhar is the obvious choice?

Blake Hardwick (FA) and Lukosius (trade) would likely be the two goal scoring threats we’re looking at I would suggest.

 

[huludicidal]

The club is certainly confident they are getting a quality player in.

I don't see how the Swans can keep Heyward on big money. He is a good player but they have some absolute elite players that need to pay.

Swans have already signed everyone other than L McDonald and Hayward.

One of them will re-sign, the other will be shaken loose.

 

[ams4crows]

We need to draft players that can take contested marks, we don't have any one that can reliably take a contested mark on the wing or from kick outs other than Dawson.

 

[GreyCrow]

Blake Hardwick (FA) would likely be the goal scoring threats we’re looking at I would suggest.

His stats dont suggest this

19 goals in his career with 5 coming today

His other stats are fine but I would like that goalkicking basket filled a bit more

 

[huludicidal]

His stats dont suggest this

19 goals in his career with 5 coming today

His other stats are fine but I would like that goalkicking basket filled a bit more

Bit hard to kick goals when your shit club plonks you at half back.

 

[GreyCrow]

Bit hard to kick goals when your s**t club plonks you at half back.

Bit hard to see a forward based on one game as well

 

[huludicidal]

Hardwick for me has always been a more natural forward than defender. He’s always been an elite kick, has great hands, and is a genuinely good one on one player.

Here’s a flashback to his draft year, where he played as a forward as a junior.



Blake Hardwick (Eastern Ranges)

The forward has drawn comparisons with Jake Stringer

25

Jake Stringer

Age

30

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

4star

G

1.8

5star

D

8.5

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.5

1star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

4star

G

2.5

5star

D

7.2

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

2.4

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.4

5star

due to his ability to play either as a hardworking lead-up option or as an explosive crumbing small. At 181cm, Hardwick is incredibly difficult to match up on and kicked a heap of goals with Eastern Ranges in the TAC Cup. He booted bags of 12 against Bendigo Pioneers, 10 against Geelong Falcons and eight against Western Jets, totalling 56 goals from 16 games throughout the year. Couple that output with an average of 16 disposals and five marks per game and you have a very good prospect on your hands.


5 goals in 3 quarters against Port today, before his coach switched him to defence. Also kicked a bag of 4 earlier this year. Has spent the majority of his career at half back. Would be a good get for mine.

 

[BigBoSS_Riot]

His stats dont suggest this

19 goals in his career with 5 coming today

His other stats are fine but I would like that goalkicking basket filled a bit more

He's spent virtually his entire career as a lockdown defender.

The plan was for him to be a forward this season, but Hawthorn's injuries down back prevented him from moving.

He kicked 4 goals against Collingwood as a forward as well.

 

[Trigger13]

Hayward is staying in Sydney. Forget about him.

 

[Firewalker]

Luke Beecken among the best for SA against WA today, might’ve continued to catch a bit more attention. If the Crows have interest like rumoured might be interesting to see if they have to use their 1st available mid-season draft pick to grab him after the strong season he’s had, if they do they’d have to be comfortable that Toby Murray will be available with their other pick(s) if they want him as well.

Disappointed my guy Eamon Wilkinson didn’t kick straight as 4 goals looks a lot better than 2 goals, like Beecken showed he has qualities that can translate to AFL level.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Luke Beecken among the best for SA against WA today, might’ve continued to catch a bit more attention. If the Crows have interest like rumoured might be interesting to see if they have to use their 1st available mid-season draft pick to grab him after the strong season he’s had, if they do they’d have to be comfortable that Toby Murray will be available with their other pick(s) if they want him as well.

Disappointed my guy Eamon Wilkinson didn’t kick straight as 4 goals looks a lot better than 2 goals, like Beecken showed he has qualities that can translate to AFL level.

Right now I’d imagine only one of Beecken/K Ryan will be there for our first pick

Question is, do we want the speedy outside player, or the hard-nosed, goalkicking inside player?

 

['51 Bewick]

Hi folks,
Do you think Lachlan Gollant will get another contract? I'm not sure whether to trade or keep him in a keeper league.
Cheers.

 

[FullyBigKPro]

Hayward is staying in Sydney. Forget about him.

Good for him, he can enjoy a ~$250k per year pay cut.

 

[Scorpus]

Hi folks,
Do you think Lachlan Gollant will get another contract? I'm not sure whether to trade or keep him in a keeper league.
Cheers.

Not sure, it would only be as depth. Won't make it at AFL level

 

[Crow till I die]

Good for him, he can enjoy a ~$250k per year pay cut.

for the next 6 years mind

 

[Checksider]

Would there be any chance of prying Shai Bolton from Richmond?
Surely he doesn’t want to play in the Richmond team for another 5 years?
I know he’s contracted and would cost alot.
But Rankine and Bolton, wowee

He’d have to remember to bounce the ball a lot more often than he’s required to at Richmond.

 

[Mutineer]

Luke Beecken among the best for SA against WA today, might’ve continued to catch a bit more attention. If the Crows have interest like rumoured might be interesting to see if they have to use their 1st available mid-season draft pick to grab him after the strong season he’s had, if they do they’d have to be comfortable that Toby Murray will be available with their other pick(s) if they want him as well.

Disappointed my guy Eamon Wilkinson didn’t kick straight as 4 goals looks a lot better than 2 goals, like Beecken showed he has qualities that can translate to AFL level.

I think Geordie Payne is likely to be very near the top of our targets in the MSD, showed really good form as a running back for the Devils last year with his speed, dare and run and carry. This year as an overager he's been transformed into a mid/forward and is killing it big time, no doubt will play for the Allies against SA this weekend in game 1 of the Nationals. Worth remembering too with a November birthday he's only really 2 months off being eligible for this year's draft.

29 disposals 17 K, 12Hb, 7M, 6T, 9 i50's and 4.1 yesterday against the Eastern Ranges in Coates Talent League and worth remenbering we were one of the 3 clubs to fly down to Tassie for a meet and greet with Payne family in the week prior to last year's draft according to Twomey, Hawks and Kangas the other 2 from memory. so they may have interest too. Best on for the Devils in 3 of his 5 games this season in the CTL. Also kicked 2.3 playing solely forward in the recent Young Guns game at Punt Road.

https://www.themercury.com.au/sport/local-sport/afl-draft-2023-the-tasmanians-testing-at-national-and-state-combines/news-story/d6765bb7d3fefb67ab72c23dcacc1c68

Geordie Payne, Tasmania Devils. Picture: Linda Higginson
Who is Geordie Payne?

Age: 17

Height: 184cm

Local club: Wynyard

Moved from the forwards to the backs this year with the Devils, Payne had a consistent Coates Talent League campaign.

His composure and decision making are some of the best features of his game, and he has reportedly attracted interest from Adelaide Crows.

Top-five whispers after shock result; more stars in cotton wool amid Eagles’ link to slider: Draft Watch

No.1 favourite’s injury scare as boilover shakes up top-five state of play: Draft Watch

www.foxsports.com.au

Launceston’s Arie Schoenmaker (1.0 from 21 disposals) and North Launceston’s Heath Ollington (2.3 from 15 disposals) also cashed in on the Devils’ dominance in attack, while medium defender Geordie Payne finished with 18 disposals and a season-high 12 marks. The Adelaide Crows have been linked to Payne, who’s averaged 19.4 disposals and 5.1 rebound 50s for the Devils in a consistent 2023 campaign.

 

[Mutineer]

Not sure, it would only be as depth. Won't make it at AFL level

Might as a defender/half back where he played mostly for the Calder Cannons/St Bernards/PEGS along with wing/outside mid

 

[Sizzlepack]

I think Geordie Payne is likely to be very near the top of our targets in the MSD, showed really good form as a running back for the Devils last year with his speed, dare and run and carry. This year as an overager he's been transformed into a mid/forward and is killing it big time, no doubt will play for the Allies against SA this weekend in game 1 of the Nationals. Worth remembering too with a November birthday he's only really 2 months off being eligible for this year's draft.

29 disposals 17 K, 12Hb, 7M, 6T, 9 i50's and 4.1 yesterday against the Eastern Ranges in Coates Talent League and worth remenbering we were one of the 3 clubs to fly down to Tassie for a meet and greet with Payne family in the week prior to last year's draft according to Twomey, Hawks and Kangas the other 2 from memory. so they may have interest too. Best on for the Devils in 3 of his 5 games this season in the CTL. Also kicked 2.3 playing solely forward in the recent Young Guns game at Punt Road.

https://www.themercury.com.au/sport/local-sport/afl-draft-2023-the-tasmanians-testing-at-national-and-state-combines/news-story/d6765bb7d3fefb67ab72c23dcacc1c68

Geordie Payne, Tasmania Devils. Picture: Linda Higginson
Who is Geordie Payne?

Age: 17

Height: 184cm

Local club: Wynyard

Moved from the forwards to the backs this year with the Devils, Payne had a consistent Coates Talent League campaign.

His composure and decision making are some of the best features of his game, and he has reportedly attracted interest from Adelaide Crows.

Top-five whispers after shock result; more stars in cotton wool amid Eagles’ link to slider: Draft Watch

No.1 favourite’s injury scare as boilover shakes up top-five state of play: Draft Watch

www.foxsports.com.au

Launceston’s Arie Schoenmaker (1.0 from 21 disposals) and North Launceston’s Heath Ollington (2.3 from 15 disposals) also cashed in on the Devils’ dominance in attack, while medium defender Geordie Payne finished with 18 disposals and a season-high 12 marks. The Adelaide Crows have been linked to Payne, who’s averaged 19.4 disposals and 5.1 rebound 50s for the Devils in a consistent 2023 campaign.

Do you know why he wasn't drafted in the end?

 

[DJ75]

Would there be any chance of prying Shai Bolton from Richmond?
Surely he doesn’t want to play in the Richmond team for another 5 years?
I know he’s contracted and would cost alot.
But Rankine and Bolton, wowee

I'd be asking the question for sure.
He's had the good times at Richmond, but looking around now, he should be able to see the writing on the wall. Dusty will be gone and their team is about to hit rock bottom soon.

He should consider us. We could rotate him and Rankine through the midfield and forward line. Makes us much more dynamic on both positions and also protects Rankine's hamstrings a bit.

 

[Mutineer]

Do you know why he wasn't drafted in the end?

Because we ran out of list spots probably.

 

[George Kramer]

I think Geordie Payne is likely to be very near the top of our targets in the MSD, showed really good form as a running back for the Devils last year with his speed, dare and run and carry. This year as an overager he's been transformed into a mid/forward and is killing it big time, no doubt will play for the Allies against SA this weekend in game 1 of the Nationals. Worth remembering too with a November birthday he's only really 2 months off being eligible for this year's draft.

29 disposals 17 K, 12Hb, 7M, 6T, 9 i50's and 4.1 yesterday against the Eastern Ranges in Coates Talent League and worth remenbering we were one of the 3 clubs to fly down to Tassie for a meet and greet with Payne family in the week prior to last year's draft according to Twomey, Hawks and Kangas the other 2 from memory. so they may have interest too. Best on for the Devils in 3 of his 5 games this season in the CTL. Also kicked 2.3 playing solely forward in the recent Young Guns game at Punt Road.

https://www.themercury.com.au/sport/local-sport/afl-draft-2023-the-tasmanians-testing-at-national-and-state-combines/news-story/d6765bb7d3fefb67ab72c23dcacc1c68

Geordie Payne, Tasmania Devils. Picture: Linda Higginson
Who is Geordie Payne?

Age: 17

Height: 184cm

Local club: Wynyard

Moved from the forwards to the backs this year with the Devils, Payne had a consistent Coates Talent League campaign.

His composure and decision making are some of the best features of his game, and he has reportedly attracted interest from Adelaide Crows.

Top-five whispers after shock result; more stars in cotton wool amid Eagles’ link to slider: Draft Watch

No.1 favourite’s injury scare as boilover shakes up top-five state of play: Draft Watch

www.foxsports.com.au

Launceston’s Arie Schoenmaker (1.0 from 21 disposals) and North Launceston’s Heath Ollington (2.3 from 15 disposals) also cashed in on the Devils’ dominance in attack, while medium defender Geordie Payne finished with 18 disposals and a season-high 12 marks. The Adelaide Crows have been linked to Payne, who’s averaged 19.4 disposals and 5.1 rebound 50s for the Devils in a consistent 2023 campaign.

Tasmanian? Hmm

 

[Danger in Texas]

Tasmanian? Hmm

You see, I get the ‘good family, good character, sub-180cm, hard worker’ part of the generic drafting hate, but the Tasmanian part has never made sense to me

Outside of Siggins and Jones, what other Tassie guys have we drafted in the past 15 years?