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Luke Parker was a pick 40. It has been writ. Get him in Sos.Pick 6 is the pick of death and 40 is the sweet spot.
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Luke Parker was a pick 40. It has been writ. Get him in Sos.Pick 6 is the pick of death and 40 is the sweet spot.
In the parlance, Fisher has also since been flipped.They’re all 200 or likely, bolded are players who we flipped or left.
Last year, with Academy Players, the sweet spot moved out to 50 .Luke Parker was a pick 40. It has been writ. Get him in Sos.
Last year, with Academy Players, the sweet spot moved out to 50 .
Last year the sweet spot was in the dormitory of the Gold Coast Academy.
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And the Camporeale twins.They have another top 10 pick this year and Lions get Ashcroft's other boy who looks like he'll go at pick 3.
Last year the sweet spot was in the dormitory of the Gold Coast Academy.
NZ rugby players / juniors.Been a very interesting read through the last couple of pages, with some great work by joydivision22 and phantom13.
I frequently hear industry commenters saying the Saints need to get creative at the draft. But how else, besides trying to generate a higher number of top 5 draft picks can we actually do that?
What other levers do we have to pull?
The Academy is really a toothless tiger nowadays with the inability to match any selection inside pick 40. It effectively means we can only effectively develop our own pick 3 talent.
We have signalled non-AFL listed players across the country with our intention to draft one player every year from Sandringham. It's essentially an open invitation to anyone who believes in themselves to come and work hard right under the nose a club that has one golden ticket to give away each year. Will it work? Dunno, but it's creative.
The Max Benier situation is also interesting, even if it doesn't pan out. But someone has identified potential in the lower leagues and has put them in the window, just a couple of weeks before the shop doors open. Is it subterfuge? Are we trying to distract prying eyes?
We clearly have eyes in the Irish market as evidenced by O'Connell. We've shopped in the States previously with Jason Holmes. For a circa 2000 budget of $100,000 I guarantee I could pull some 200cm Sandringham level ruck/key position potential out of Fiji. Do we expand our horizons so to speak?
Anybody got any other ideas?
And the Camporeale twins.
NZ rugby players.
No. But ESPN had them power ranked at 14 & 19, which is a decent free hit in it's own right even without the younger Ashcroft.They aren't going to be as high as the 2 Queensland boys at least.
Been a very interesting read through the last couple of pages, with some great work by joydivision22 and phantom13.
I frequently hear industry commenters saying the Saints need to get creative at the draft. But how else, besides trying to generate a higher number of top 5 draft picks can we actually do that?
What other levers do we have to pull?
The Academy is really a toothless tiger nowadays with the inability to match any selection inside pick 40. It effectively means we can only effectively develop our own pick 3 talent.
We have signalled non-AFL listed players across the country with our intention to draft one player every year from Sandringham. It's essentially an open invitation to anyone who believes in themselves to come and work hard right under the nose a club that has one golden ticket to give away each year. Will it work? Dunno, but it's creative.
The Max Benier situation is also interesting, even if it doesn't pan out. But someone has identified potential in the lower leagues and has put them in the window, just a couple of weeks before the shop doors open. Is it subterfuge? Are we trying to distract prying eyes?
We clearly have eyes in the Irish market as evidenced by O'Connell. We've shopped in the States previously with Jason Holmes. For a circa 2000 budget of $100,000 I guarantee I could pull some 200cm Sandringham level ruck/key position potential out of Fiji. Do we expand our horizons so to speak?
Anybody got any other ideas?
No. But ESPN had them power ranked at 14 & 19, which is a decent free hit in it's own right even without the younger Ashcroft.
I think the suggestion is always to look outside the pathways leagues ala Tom Stewart for Geelong.Been a very interesting read through the last couple of pages, with some great work by joydivision22 and phantom13.
I frequently hear industry commenters saying the Saints need to get creative at the draft. But how else, besides trying to generate a higher number of top 5 draft picks can we actually do that?
What other levers do we have to pull?
The Academy is really a toothless tiger nowadays with the inability to match any selection inside pick 40. It effectively means we can only effectively develop our own pick 3 talent.
We have signalled non-AFL listed players across the country with our intention to draft one player every year from Sandringham. It's essentially an open invitation to anyone who believes in themselves to come and work hard right under the nose a club that has one golden ticket to give away each year. Will it work? Dunno, but it's creative.
The Max Benier situation is also interesting, even if it doesn't pan out. But someone has identified potential in the lower leagues and has put them in the window, just a couple of weeks before the shop doors open. Is it subterfuge? Are we trying to distract prying eyes?
We clearly have eyes in the Irish market as evidenced by O'Connell. We've shopped in the States previously with Jason Holmes. For a circa 2000 budget of $100,000 I guarantee I could pull some 200cm Sandringham level ruck/key position potential out of Fiji. Do we expand our horizons so to speak?
Anybody got any other ideas?
Oh.They are Carlton though.
So will next year they expect to have 5 top 30 academy players available, hopefully the new academy rules come in this year.
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With that goal in mind, I don't mind the Steele idea, but if he goes Marshall is skipper for mine.Okay, since we’ve reached a mutually acceptable contentment on what we need to do, how do we get a top 5 pick?
In order from easiest to hardest. Just some ideas. I haven’t fully considered damage to club or fan base obvs as it is difficult to quantify.
1. Finish bottom 5
Damage is minimal as you have to assume we aren’t doing it on purpose so would happen anyway. As one poster said, May as well lean into and pump early games into kids.
2. Trade future picks into this year
Like WB did to draft Sanders, which I thought was a sensational move. Someone at the kennel knows what’s up and went and just bought a 300 gamer with some magic bean end of first rd picks.
I loved our effort to try and move from 9 to 3 with Clark. I know you’ll say oh well we would’ve missed out on Phillipou or we would’ve drafted Po anyway at 3 but maybe Sheezel or Wardlaw would’ve been better.
3. Free Agency compo for players in prime
Obvious one is Battle. You’d only not match if it generated pick 5. Otherwise keep him.
4. Trade other players of value in contract
Would anyone be interested in Steele for a top pick? North would certainly have a look at it. Hes our fearless skip but He’s one more bad injury away from a half back flank and an early retirement. We should’ve traded Armitage when Richmond came knocking and if someone put up a top 5 pick for Jack, I’d do it. Clearly most difficult path.
Marshall would return a top 5 pick but collateral damage would be pretty large. Heath not ready yet but maybe if he shows enough this could be a risk worth taking. Marshall is Herculean at times but ineffectual often in terms of his primary task of feeding mids. Unless he clears it himself with a scrap kick, the ball is going the other way 3x quicker. Again, another desperate option.
Can’t think of any other ways but I’d be going all in for the first 3 ways asap.
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The question is, is this Marshall deciding to do this, or is the plan from upstairs?A blind kick forward is always 50/50 at best, whereas a clean hand pass to an outside runner will at least provide an inside 50 entry to the advantage of a forward (if executed properly)Why St Kilda ruckman isn’t having the clearance impact that his stats suggest
“Once you dig a little bit deeper, there’s a little bit more in it.”www.sen.com.au
That’s why Jackson grabs it out of the ruck, then hand pass it to one of his midfielders running past rather than blazing away. It’s like setting up your team for a better scoring opportunity rather than throwing the ball from half court in basketball (count as a clearance / forward entry but extremely low % if you ask me)
Those dump kicks that worked in our favour, well they are called luck and cannot repeated consistently.. We need a repeatable method rather than relying on luck (long bomb, dump kicks) / others stuffing up (effort based pressure game)
We also kicked at least 2 goals last week directly from him taking it out of the ruck. And considering we only scored 8 goals for the match, that's a significant return.The question is, is this Marshall deciding to do this, or is the plan from upstairs?
It's shithouse whatever it is. If it's all part of the plan, you'd want to tweak that plan quite a bit. It's losing us games.
Would we have kicked more with a clean stoppage exit though? Cant know so its a bit of a false equivalence exercise.We also kicked at least 2 goals last week directly from him taking it out of the ruck. And considering we only scored 8 goals for the match, that's a significant return.
This is the same clown, using the same system, that ranked Nick Daicos's 41 disposal, 14 clearance game against the Crows on the weekend as only the 21st best player on the ground. Got the 10 coaches votes btw. Roma also got coaches votes on the weekend.A blind kick forward is always 50/50 at best, whereas a clean hand pass to an outside runner will at least provide an inside 50 entry to the advantage of a forward (if executed properly)Why St Kilda ruckman isn’t having the clearance impact that his stats suggest
“Once you dig a little bit deeper, there’s a little bit more in it.”www.sen.com.au
That’s why Jackson grabs it out of the ruck, then hand pass it to one of his midfielders running past rather than blazing away. It’s like setting up your team for a better scoring opportunity rather than throwing the ball from half court in basketball (count as a clearance / forward entry but extremely low % if you ask me)
Those dump kicks that worked in our favour, well they are called luck and cannot repeated consistently.. We need a repeatable method rather than relying on luck (long bomb, dump kicks) / others stuffing up (effort based pressure game)