Player Watch Jason Horne-Francis - You were always one of us

[TeeKray]

Hang on, isn't it Rozee who has been made captain due to being the best player on the team despite the apparent absence of on field leadership traits such as physical toughness, ability to stand up in big moments and big games, etc? How did that conversation get flipped?

 

[Nemisis]

The fact the opposing coach had to sub off their only ruck half way through the second quarter, to bring someone on to tag him is being undersold. That is completely unheard of. I’ve never seen a tactical sub being made in the first half ever, let alone only 10 mins into the second quarter. Stanley wasn’t even playing that bad, it was purely to stop JHF.

It was an incredibly good move by their coach. Turned the game but didn't stop JHF. I always thought Jason would be a very good player down the track but he is already approaching 'greatness'.

 

[TazD]

Hang on, isn't it Rozee who has been made captain due to being the best player on the team despite the apparent absence of on field leadership traits such as physical toughness, ability to stand up in big moments and big games, etc? How did that conversation get flipped?

Rozee sulked on the bench last week, therefore we should trade him.

 

[Chewy316]

Nope, it was 100% the tag. He got the hard tag, not just a bit of a run with. Mullin followed him everywhere.

I am well aware of the hard tag, but I disagree that it was the reason he drifted in and out of the game. He has drifted in and out of games consistently during his entire Port career to date, regardless of whether or not he's been tagged. He is still a 20 year old kid who lacks the tank to have an impactful 4 quarters in the guts. In time this is no doubt going to improve.

The talent is there, just needs more time to naturally develop into his body. The two comparable players to JHF in this current era of the game imo are Dangerfield and Petracca. Dangerfield broke out as a player at the age of 22 (his 5th year in the league), whilst Petracca didn't until the age of 24 (his 6th year in the league). JHF is well ahead of those players at the same stage of their respective careers.

 

[JimmyBC]

Hang on, isn't it Rozee who has been made captain due to being the best player on the team despite the apparent absence of on field leadership traits such as physical toughness, ability to stand up in big moments and big games, etc? How did that conversation get flipped?

Well these boards are fickle just like Wines is a hero again after his first decent game in god knows how long.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

What a fantastic game by the Hornet and to be tagged at 20, well, he's going to build his body and get even better.

Super influential and kept at it.

He missed an easy goal that couldn't iced the game but apart from that, just sensational.

 

[ClintEastwood]

Nope, it was 100% the tag. He got the hard tag, not just a bit of a run with. Mullin followed him everywhere.

Agree the hard tag had a huge impact. How much would he have drifted out of the game, or in-out-in-out, if he hadn't been tagged? Who knows.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Until JHF develops a good left foot kick, he will never catch Russell. But there are a lot of similar traits. Strength is the biggest of them.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

We're excited.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

In the first quarter, he was the Sex Panther.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

In the first quarter, he was the Sex Panther.

He's got the mo for it.

 

[ibd77]

JHF still has hot head tendencies which could be exploited by opposition if they target him.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

He's go the mo for it.


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And the swagger.

 

[DaTBird187]

Was Jonas or Cassisi ever our best player in their eras?

They were barely best 22.

 

[WillemDaDrew]

Until JHF develops a good left foot kick, he will never catch Russell. But there are a lot of similar traits. Strength is the biggest of them.

I’d agree JHF not having left foot would be the only flaw in his game. But his ability to out-toe the footy on the boot and pinpoint a pass is freakish, so I’m sure not he needs it.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

In judging his performance keep in mind what it would have looked at with an extra 3-5 missed free kicks. The tripping one got a cat reported even with no free to JHF

 

[PowerLil]

In judging his performance keep in mind what it would have looked at with an extra 3-5 missed free kicks. The tripping one got a cat reported even with no free to JHF

The free was blatantly ignored let alone the report. Could've cost the game.

 

[sobrave]

The fact the opposing coach had to sub off their only ruck half way through the second quarter, to bring someone on to tag him is being undersold. That is completely unheard of. I’ve never seen a tactical sub being made in the first half ever, let alone only 10 mins into the second quarter. Stanley wasn’t even playing that bad, it was purely to stop JHF.

I don't think it's that crazy. Stanley is rubbish and was getting towelled up by a 3 gamer. Blicavs is perfectly serviceable as a back up

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I’d agree JHF not having left foot would be the only flaw in his game. But his ability to out-toe the footy on the boot and pinpoint a pass is freakish, so I’m sure not he needs it.

There will always be times when he is forced on to his left by an opponent right up against him and he cant use his right foot without it being smothered, partially or in full.

Everything I read about him and hear him say, says he wants to be the best he can be. If you cant kick on your non natural foot, you arent a complete professional footballer.

 

[TeeKray]

There will always be times when he is forced on to his left by an opponent right up against him and he cant use his right foot without it being smothered, partially or in full.

Everything I read about him and hear him say, says he wants to be the best he can be. If you cant kick on your non natural foot, you arent a complete professional footballer.

He did a left foot kick inside 50 during Q3 I think.

Not many AFL players are great on both feet. There aren't too many Jason Akermanis' out there. I suspect JHF isn't much worse than others on his opposite foot, it's probably more a case of he's just so good at that crafty outside of the foot kick that he's better off going with that most of the time.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Hang on, isn't it Rozee who has been made captain due to being the best player on the team despite the apparent absence of on field leadership traits such as physical toughness, ability to stand up in big moments and big games, etc? How did that conversation get flipped?

I find it truly bizarre how you hang so much sh1t on “choir boy” Rozee and defend probably the worst player in our starting 22 (every week) in McEntee

Baffles me

 

[TeeKray]

I find it truly bizarre how you hang so much sh1t on “choir boy” Rozee and defend probably the worst player in our starting 22 (every week) in McEntee

Baffles me

It's a totally different conversation. One is a role player, the other is the captain and a top 3 player in the team on a 10 year/$10 million contract. If Rozee doesn't come to play it can cost us the game. Now that he's captain, his performance carries even more weight. He gets assessed on being that player and it's a much more demanding assessment than McEntee. That's called reality, everywhere except this board I guess.

 

[JakeNeadeFan]

It's a totally different conversation. One is a role player, the other is the captain and a top 3 player in the team on a 10 year/$10 million contract. If Rozee doesn't come to play it can cost us the game. Now that he's captain, his performance carries even more weight. He gets assessed on being that player and it's a much more demanding assessment than McEntee. That's called reality, everywhere except this board I guess.

It's the same as people not understanding the huge tactical advantage of us using our mid-season draftee who is on minimum chips to shut down the oppositions best player who is probably on 800k plus.

Amongst other things, winning in this comp is a resource management exercise. You need to enable your highest paid, first round draft pick players having the most impact on games.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

He did a left foot kick inside 50 during Q3 I think.

Not many AFL players are great on both feet. There aren't too many Jason Akermanis' out there. I suspect JHF isn't much worse than others on his opposite foot, it's probably more a case of he's just so good at that crafty outside of the foot kick that he's better off going with that most of the time.

I never said he had to be great. He has to be competent and skilled enough on his left foot if he wants to be a complete player.

Nathan Buckley wasnt as good on his left foot as Aker and Budha Hocking or Sam Mitchell. But he was competetent on it. Buckley is who he has been benchmarked against the most by fans and the media.