Academy 2023 Next Generation Academy Draft Prospects

[borderbarry]

I dont know of any, but there is bound to be some. Can anyone help me out here?

 

[prophetic1]

Hey BB,
I don't know about what's on offer in the immediate future but I think we should become the first all indigenous team ever in the AFL and let goo anyone else, .... It may prompt Paddy RYDER out of retirement... Get him fit etc... We would definitely attract some of the indigenous cream throughout the comp. We will win the next four cups! As they said in72 it's TIME!

I say all of this in the true
belief and total respect
To all people's concern Ed.

Let's go SAINTS ALL FIRST NATION AUSTRALIAN SAINTS.

 

[South of the Yarra]

Hey BB,
I don't know about what's on offer in the immediate future but I think we should become the first all indigenous team ever in the AFL and let goo anyone else, .... It may prompt Paddy RYDER out of retirement... Get him fit etc... We would definitely attract some of the indigenous cream throughout the comp. We will win the next four cups! As they said in72 it's TIME!

I say all of this in the true
belief and total respect
To all people's concern Ed.

Let's go SAINTS ALL FIRST NATION AUSTRALIAN SAINTS.

Drop the First Nation and go with Aboriginal

 

[briztoon]

Drop the First Nation and go with Aboriginal

Why?

 

[South of the Yarra]

Why?

Because it should be Aboriginal not First Nation, that's why

 

[briztoon]

Because it should be Aboriginal not First Nation, that's why

What happens if a First Nations person is a) comfortable with the term, b) actually uses the term in a professional capacity in an educational setting (i.e. holds a PhD and is involved in education research). Or c) is Torres Straight Islander?

 

[South of the Yarra]

What happens if a First Nations person is a) comfortable with the term, b) actually uses the term in a professional capacity in an educational setting (i.e. holds a PhD and is involved in education research). Or c) is Torres Straight Islander?

Then go for it but you will find the term First Nations is politically driven. Most Aboriginal people I know refer to themselves as Aboriginal.Is there an issue with someone doing research and holding a PhD and calling themselves Aboriginal? If there are TS islanders in the team you can call the team Aboriginal and TSI

 

[Lore]

Then go for it but you will find the term First Nations is politically driven. Most Aboriginal people I know refer to themselves as Aboriginal.Is there an issue with someone doing research and holding a PhD and calling themselves Aboriginal? If there are TS islanders in the team you can call the team Aboriginal and TSI

Darwin mob and Tasmania mob are about as similar to one another as Swedes are to Greeks, yet for some reason the Torres Strait Islanders got recognition as a separate people and all the mainland groups got lumped in together. The reality is there are hundreds of separate clans and mobs around Australia with their own languages, cultures and traditions, and recognising that is generally regarded as appropriate in the 21st century. The phrase "First Nations" recognises that they are distinct groups.

This is why AFL clubs recognise the clans who are recognised owners of the lands they're on and even change their club's name to reflect it, especially during Sir Doug Nicholls round, rather than generically talking about "Aboriginal people".

And if you really must use an umbrella term, the preferred one is "Indigenous" so as to include Torres Strait Islanders.

Here's a map:

https://www.aflplayers.com.au/app/uploads/2022/05/Indigenous-Player-Map-Update-2022-v5-digital.pdf

In any case, this is the DRAFT board, not the Society, Religion and Politics board. If you want to debate the semantics around political recognition of the traditional owners of this country, you'd be better off finding your way to that board: Society, Religion and Politics


And with all that said, this thread is now the Next Generation Academy thread. It will cover all currently listed NGA players at the AFL clubs who are eligible to be drafted in 2023.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Are any tied to Essendon?

 

[South of the Yarra]

Darwin mob and Tasmania mob are about as similar to one another as Swedes are to Greeks, yet for some reason the Torres Strait Islanders got recognition as a separate people and all the mainland groups got lumped in together. The reality is there are hundreds of separate clans and mobs around Australia with their own languages, cultures and traditions, and recognising that is generally regarded as appropriate in the 21st century. The phrase "First Nations" recognises that they are distinct groups.

This is why AFL clubs recognise the clans who are recognised owners of the lands they're on and even change their club's name to reflect it, especially during Sir Doug Nicholls round, rather than generically talking about "Aboriginal people".

And if you really must use an umbrella term, the preferred one is "Indigenous" so as to include Torres Strait Islanders.

Here's a map:

https://www.aflplayers.com.au/app/uploads/2022/05/Indigenous-Player-Map-Update-2022-v5-digital.pdf

In any case, this is the DRAFT board, not the Society, Religion and Politics board. If you want to debate the semantics around political recognition of the traditional owners of this country, you'd be better off finding your way to that board: Society, Religion and Politics


And with all that said, this thread is now the Next Generation Academy thread. It will cover all currently listed NGA players at the AFL clubs who are eligible to be drafted in 2023.

Well as an Aboriginal my preferred umbrella term for myself is Aboriginal. All the best.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Are any tied to Essendon?

Good luck trying to get info on this.

Even Cal mentioned last year on a podcast when I asked him that they(AFL media) often don't get much info of who is in the NGA's.

Josh Bennetts(who we ultimately took) only became someone that us Hawks knew was in our NGA when the HUN mentioned it in passing in an article in July.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Good luck trying to get info on this.

Even Cal mentioned last year on a podcast when I asked him that they(AFL media) often don't get much info of who is in the NGA's.

Josh Bennetts(who we ultimately took) only became someone that us Hawks knew was in our NGA when the HUN mentioned it in passing in an article in July.

I know that Richmond had (circa 2020-21) a guy in their NGA called Nathan Louw.

Not sure if that's the case now.

 

[PMBangers]

Are any tied to Essendon?

Mahmoud Taha

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Mahmoud Taha

I know of him and Amin Naim but any Aboriginals tied?

P.S. welcome back Bangers.

 

[Community_AFL]

Fremantle have a couple on their list. Isaiah Hayden son of Roger Hayden

Roger Hayden

Age

43

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.9

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.4

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

0.8

3star

 

[pushintheback]

Luamon Lual - Dogs

 

[Jen2310]

Any tied to the pies? I vaguely heard of a couple a while back, but not sure if it was this year or 2024

 

[Sphynx]

Twomey stating that there's a push for this to revert back to top 20 protected.

He said he thinks it's likely it goes back.

Didn't mention this season or next.

 

[Bianconeri]

Twomey stating that there's a push for this to revert back to top 20 protected.

He said he thinks it's likely it goes back.

Didn't mention this season or next.

Makes sense otherwise there’s not really an incentive to invest much in this

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Good luck trying to get info on this.

Even Cal mentioned last year on a podcast when I asked him that they(AFL media) often don't get much info of who is in the NGA's.

Josh Bennetts(who we ultimately took) only became someone that us Hawks knew was in our NGA when the HUN mentioned it in passing in an article in July.

Heres another Hawk

 

[Yoda_]

Are any tied to Essendon?

Good luck trying to get info on this.

Even Cal mentioned last year on a podcast when I asked him that they(AFL media) often don't get much info of who is in the NGA's.

Josh Bennetts(who we ultimately took) only became someone that us Hawks knew was in our NGA when the HUN mentioned it in passing in an article in July.

Pretty easy to find this; posted this on the Essendon board

+ overager
* NGA eligible
= father/son

-- Calder Cannons --
#4 - Matthew Foley+ (also signed to our VFL program as train on)
#12 - Luca Alessio +=
#11 - Ryan Eyre *
#13 - Amin Naim *
#16 - Mo Taha* (expected to go inside 40)
#3 - Jayden Nguyen* (underager)
#1 - Isaac Kako* (underager)
#62 - Alex Allesio = (underager)

-- Geelong Falcons --
#31 - Noah Caracella = (underager)



Couldn't find Will Hamilton or Luke Barnard on any U18 talent list so expect them to miss drafting save for a miracle coming in when champs are on and dominating enough to become a chance later in the year. On last years crop, Reuban Rode, Carlos Egan, Ayui Makieng all missed being drafted and not invited back as overagers.

The major players to keep an eye out for are (imho) Ryan Eyre, a bigger midfielder (188cm) who played one NAB game last year, played some decent footy at Kilmore last year.

Amin Naim played 10 games for Cannons last year, sounds like majorly forward (15 goals in 10 games ave 8 dpg), at 187cm decent size

Mo Taha is a 182cm small fwd who played 13 games last year, certainly highly touted.

I like the idea of Matt Foley, a mid 180's utility who iirc captained Calder last year and played everywhere from tagger to small lock down defender and did reasonably well. No standout feature but a decent role player who if we picked up for free as Cat B would be an ideal project player for 3 years.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Riak Andrew - brother of Mac - is Essendon NGA

 

[PMBangers]

Riak Andrew - brother of Mac - is Essendon NGA

Dees NGA

 

[Jeremias]

Dees NGA

Anything in the NGA pipeline for Carlton, this year or next?

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Dees NGA

This article suggests Essendon

The ones to watch: future bright for Multicultural stars

www.aflvic.com.au