WTC Final Australia v India Only Test June 7-11 1800hrs @ the Oval

[big_e]

Thank you for your definition of final. I was asking why test matches should have a one off final when they have traditionally been held over a series of games.

Points are awarded in the WTC based on the result in every match, not every series.

It follows naturally to have a one-off final.

 

[big_e]

I can see there being real heat on the ICC to move the location of the final if India lose it again in two years time to Aus/Eng/SA/NZ (which could easily happen).

India were gracious enough in defeat in 2021, they’ve sooked a bit this year but the toys will be well and truly out of the pram if they lose three in a row.

A final hosted in the subcontinent would be a complete joke, but if that’s what it takes for India to win one then it will almost certainly happen in a couple of cycles’ time.

If of course India win one in England, then this debate goes away entirely

Why would a final on the subcontinent be a complete joke?

There's no perfect place for it, but no country is inherently better or worse than any other.

 

[Trojan90]

I reckon starting from now the reigning test champions host the next final as reward. Think the 2ndians will approve?

 

[hanrahs]

I think Pakistan should host next, India gets the sub-continent game they want. And with it being a neutral game (I can't really see Pakistan making it) then there is no reason to make a road.

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[revo333]

Thank you for your definition of final. I was asking why test matches should have a one off final when they have traditionally been held over a series of games.

I would think the series of tests happened as countries usually only play each other every 2-3 years so it makes sense to play a series of test matches while a country is visiting another.

I'm sure if it happened 30 years ago then the final would probably be a 3 test series.

However having a one off final is a sign of the times of where test cricket currently stands in the overall picture of the sport.

As others have said a 3 test series would eat into nearly a month of the year and there is no gap or overall interest in world cricket to do it.

 

[MinerBoy]

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[western royboy]

I think Pakistan should host next, India gets the sub-continent game they want. And with it being a neutral game (I can't really see Pakistan making it) then there is no reason to make a road.

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India don’t play Pakistan - they won’t be going to play a Test there - neutral or not

 

[corbies]

I’m not advocating for Harris.

But Warner has failed every test in England

Tbf he probably was worthy of pass mark (hehe) in the 2015 Ashes.

 

[passmark]

Tbf he probably was worthy of pass mark (hehe) in the 2015 Ashes.

I think he’ll get the gig because he’s been moping about waffling about retirement and the selectors (Cummins) will have the guilts.

 

[eltrain]

Why would a final on the subcontinent be a complete joke?

There's no perfect place for it, but no country is inherently better or worse than any other.

A final in Nagpur or Delhi finishing in 2.5 days with the ball turning square from the fifth over of the match is objectively worse in my opinion.

 

[hanrahs]

India don’t play Pakistan - they won’t be going to play a Test there - neutral or not

Whoosh!

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[Jim Prideaux]

Rumours around Harris will be selected ahead of Warner first Ashes Test.

Really? Warner injured?

 

[Chetan Gupta]

Points are awarded in the WTC based on the result in every match, not every series.

It follows naturally to have a one-off final.

My point was that tests are usually decided over a series - so the toss, the pitch, the weather has less impact on the result.

 

[frankrizzo]

My point was that tests are usually decided over a series - so the toss, the pitch, the weather has less impact on the result.

What sort of competition has it so all teams in event play wildly different opponents for different series lengths? The whole thing is flawed anyway its a compromised event doing best it can while accepting economic realities of cricket schedule, 3 neutral tests in middle of somebody's home schedule would be an economic disaster unless they got perfect matchup it aint going to happen.

 

[FredLeDeux]

My point was that tests are usually decided over a series - so the toss, the pitch, the weather has less impact on the result.

At least 95% of cricket competitions worldwide are decided by a single grand final

 

[Borisdog]

I think Pakistan should host next, India gets the sub-continent game they want. And with it being a neutral game (I can't really see Pakistan making it) then there is no reason to make a road.

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I like it.

It’d be the only place in the world the 2ndians wouldn’t have the home crowd advantage.

 

[big_e]

My point was that tests are usually decided over a series - so the toss, the pitch, the weather has less impact on the result.

The WTC is the (long overdue) first step away from the old-fashioned, purely bilateral, nature of test cricket.

Previous rules don't apply.

 

[JackOutback]

Play it at the home ground of the top ranked team... but a neutral curator prepares the pitch.

 

[ams4crows]

I see it the other way with bazball reckon they poms will put us in straight away the first sign of a green deck

I agree! They'll back themselves to chase in the 4th innings.... But if Bazball doesn't go to plan.... Well it could be messy

 

[western royboy]

I agree! They'll back themselves to chase in the 4th innings.... But if Bazball doesn't go to plan.... Well it could be messy

Based upon the early evidence, there’s unlikely to be any green seamers around, the fact that they’ve reactivated Moeen tells you that they’re going to back there batting on roads against ours

 

[Chetan Gupta]

What sort of competition has it so all teams in event play wildly different opponents for different series lengths? The whole thing is flawed anyway its a compromised event doing best it can while accepting economic realities of cricket schedule, 3 neutral tests in middle of somebody's home schedule would be an economic disaster unless they got perfect matchup it aint going to happen.

World Test Championship is a platypus. It sticks together results where some countries have played 22 tests and others 12. The countries didn't all play each other eg NZ did not play Australia or Windies. They make a league out of it based on a formula. Then the top two play a one test final.

Australia clearly been the best 5 day team over the last two years. But would have been injustice if India won the final.

 

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