Banter Who will be Better in 2025, Collingwood or Carlton? Part 4

[Pistol Night]

Just looked up Carltons age profile. Geez they have a mass of better players either 30 and above or almost 30 heading into next season.

I fear if they don't win the flag in 2025 the window might close on them and things will turn really ugly.

Sam Walsh the exception but he alone can't carry the club through the next chapter of the dark days.

You're about to cop some severe wooden spoon abuse for these facts

 

[Worm4]

Probably the campaigner with 2 last names and zero flags. Terrible ratio

You might be right . One is poo, the other is genuine shyte

 

[Pistol Night]

You might be right . One is poo, the other is genuine shyte

Whats poo? Fake Shyte? Any way our little turd has a medal so that's a credit to him. You're bloke hasn't even got a first name. He had to call out twice when the done the roll call at school.

 

[Arr0w]

Probably the campaigner with 2 last names and zero flags. Terrible ratio

Charlie Dean, Ed Allan, Jakob Ryan, Harvey Harrison have no hope then

 

[Worm4]

Just looked up Carltons age profile. Geez they have a mass of better players either 30 and above or almost 30 heading into next season.

I fear if they don't win the flag in 2025 the window might close on them and things will turn really ugly.

Sam Walsh the exception but he alone can't carry the club through the next chapter of the dark days.

What is your definition of MASS -
like 5 out of the list ?

 

[Pistol Night]

What is your definition of MASS -
like 5 out of the list ?

Thats easy. For us Collingwood supporters mass was after English and before lunch

 

[Pistol Night]

Charlie Dean, Ed Allan, Jakob Ryan, Harvey Harrison have no hope then

Pretty much. Brutal list strategy but i like it

 

[Pistol Night]

Charlie Dean, Ed Allan, Jakob Ryan, Harvey Harrison have no hope then

Hang on. The first 3 have 2 first names. Thats ok

 

[Arr0w]

Hang on. The first 3 have 2 first names. Thats ok

All of them do

 

[Pistol Night]

All of them do

That why Will Hoskin-Elliot is a favourite. Alir Alir is just taking the piss

 

[beema limapep]

You're about to cop some severe wooden spoon abuse for these facts

And i probably deserve it. But seen 3 flags in recent years so it doesn't mean much

 

[Pistol Night]

And i probably deserve it. But seen 3 flags in recent years so it doesn't mean much

We’ve only got 2 in 14. I’d hate to have a worse record than that

 

[beema limapep]

What is your definition of MASS -
like 5 out of the list ?

'A mass' means a large cohort (most) of their better players.

Next year players will be turning:-

Cripps 31
Williams 31
Saad 31
Dochery 32
Acres 30
McKay 28
Fantasia 30 (lol)
Newman 32
Weitering 28
Pittonet 29
Hewitt 30
Curnow 29
Haynes 33

Under 26 there is not much proven talent apart from Walsh, DeKoning and maaaayyybbbeeee Cerra to build a list around.

Really is their last year next year to try to jag a flag somehow.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

'A mass' means a large cohort (most) of their better players.

Next year players will be turning:-

Cripps 31
Williams 31
Saad 31
Dochery 32
Acres 30
McKay 28
Fantasia 30 (lol)
Newman 32
Weitering 28
Pittonet 29
Hewitt 30
Curnow 29
Haynes 33

Under 26 there is not much proven talent apart from Walsh, DeKoning and maaaayyybbbeeee Cerra to build a list around.

Really is their last year next year to try to jag a flag somehow.

You've added extra years to like half those players lmao

 

[Pistol Night]

You've added extra years to like half those players lmao

Not nice when you’re called an old fossil squad is it.

 

[beema limapep]

You've added extra years to like half those players lmao

Nope. That's the age they will be turning next year, hence my original point. If the don't somehow jag a flag next year it's looking pretty dire. Again.

 

[doppleganger]

'A mass' means a large cohort (most) of their better players.

Next year players will be turning:-

Cripps 31
Williams 31
Saad 31
Dochery 32
Acres 30
McKay 28
Fantasia 30 (lol)
Newman 32
Weitering 28
Pittonet 29
Hewitt 30
Curnow 29
Haynes 33

Under 26 there is not much proven talent apart from Walsh, DeKoning and maaaayyybbbeeee Cerra to build a list around.

Really is their last year next year to try to jag a flag somehow.

You ages look a bit off.

Carlton will be the 6th oldest list in 2025

The only teams with older lists are - Pies, Brisbane, Melb, WB, Geel - teams who unlike Carlton have been playing in GFs recently.

Sydney is the same age as Carlton, another team with multiple GFs recently.

Carlton need to have a 16 win H&A season in 2025 and make top 4, or else the list just ain't up to it.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Nope. That's the age they will be turning next year, hence my original point. If the don't somehow jag a flag next year it's looking pretty dire. Again.

Cripps who's 29 is turning 31 next year?

Curnow who's 27 is turning 29 next year?

 

[beema limapep]

Cripps who's 29 is turning 31 next year?

Curnow who's 27 is turning 29 next year?

Sounds like more Carlton excuses to me.

Cripps turns 30 in March 2025 will be 31 before the next season. Curnow turning 28 in Feb will be 29 before the following season.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Sounds like more Carlton excuses to me.

Cripps turns 30 in March 2025 will be 31 before the next season. Curnow turning 28 in Feb will be 29 before the following season.

Time to put down the bongs Beema, Christmas is barely more than a day away.

 

[beema limapep]

You ages look a bit off.

Carlton will be the 6th oldest list in 2025

The only teams with older lists are - Pies, Brisbane, Melb, WB, Geel - teams who unlike Carlton have been playing in GFs recently.

Sydney is the same age as Carlton, another team with multiple GFs recently.

Carlton need to have a 16 win H&A season in 2025 and make top 4, or else the list just ain't up to it.

I think Sydney's under 26s have way more depth than Carltons though. 80% of Carltons better players are either over 30 or just about 30.

 

[beema limapep]

Time to put down the bongs Beema, Christmas is barely more than a day away.

Another day closer to Carltons next flag.

On the All Australian scale, I give my posts a solid 2 out of 3 defenders.

 

[Pistol Night]

Nope. That's the age they will be turning next year, hence my original point. If the don't somehow jag a flag next year it's looking pretty dire. Again.

15 months ago we had a 36yo BOG in the last quarter of a GF. A 32yo second best. The other old fellas are still contributing at a high level like Howe, Elliot etc. Clearly well phase them out gradually. I remember having this dig at Geelong for years after Stevie J, Enright, Scalrett etc retired. They kept regenerating smartly and stayed up top. Its hard but its not impossible

 

[Pistol Night]

Time to put down the bongs Beema, Christmas is barely more than a day away.

Since when has that been a rule Maude Flanders? A Chrissy morning cone will make Pas stories awesome

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I think Sydney's under 26s have way more depth than Carltons though. 80% of Carltons better players are either over 30 or just about 30.

Cripps - 29
Curnow - 27
Weitering - 27
McKay - 27
Walsh - 24
TDK - 25
Cerra - 25
E.Hollands - 22

I think we'll be fine for at least next few years lmao.

Add to that some good young kids coming through who will get some exposure this year and I don't think anyone Blues fan will be too worried about the near future.

The Pies on the other hand are stale, old and cooked. Oldest list in history.