Banter Who will be Better in 2025, Collingwood or Carlton? Part 4

[Worm4]

I hope you're not misrepresenting data again?

Hows that market coming along ?
Hopefully you don't "misrepresent" the odds you believe are a true reflection of the hopes of both sides when they meet in Adelaide

 

[JustaBattler]

Fudgee

Wanna bet?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I'm not sure I've ever said McInnes is 'going to be the next Superstar' (more imagining), just that he'd get a game in Carlton's forward line, where their 3rd to 7th forwards in their best forward line in 2025 amassed 47 goals between them in 2024.

McInnes kicked 13 goals from 9 games in 2024, averaging 50% game time.

Is this the same "analysis" that has you thinking Macrae and Long would get a game in our midfield?

 

[carlton_99]

Is this the same "analysis" that has you thinking Macrae and Long would get a game in our midfield?

Did we ever get an answer on who they would get a game ahead of who plays regularly for Carlton?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Did we ever get an answer on who they would get a game ahead of who plays regularly for Carlton?

Apparently the list is too long for him to type out

 

[Matrix10]

Pretty much this.

They have been building since SOS took over with the rebuild they had to have.

2025 will be Weitering, Curnow, McKay's 10th season for the Blues. They will be 27/28 in 2025. If they are ever going to have a top 4 finish surely 2025 is the season.

Even the "young stars" Cerra, TDK and Walsh, they are 25/26 next year.

Cerra a star , ? are you been facetious.

 

[Matrix10]

Take out a 2nd loan and load it all on WCE according to Fudgey! North has us marked down in their calendar as a free win too!

West Coast is 50/50 for the Blose , North will have the Blose number in 2025.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Cerra a star , ? are you been facetious.

Last time Cerra was healthy he flogged ur mob in a half of footy

 

[Matrix10]

Last time Cerra was healthy he flogged ur mob in a half of footy

The only thing Cerra flogged , is himself

 

[Cyclops]

Last time Cerra was healthy he flogged ur mob in a half of footy

This is an interesting point, and it's part if the randomness of the footy equation.

Pies have a bunch if oldies, and oldies get injured more. We can complain n of injuries but we picked the oldies so we can't complain too loud.

We mitigate injury through a pretty good fitness program and some exemplary individual prep eg Sidey and above all Pendles.

Carlton has also had injuries, maybe even more than us. You can recruit for fitness/durability but it's still a lottery eg we recruited McStay off the back of a great injury free run at Brisbane and he's missed 70-80% of games.

So I think I injuries are a mix of luck and fitness prep. If Carlton want a better run at finals they have to improve their prep.

Have they made any changes there? Imagine a year where Crippa gets a good run of injury free games. I mean all trolling aside that'd be beautiful to see, might lift him up to the Bont/Darcy Moore level.

 

[Fadge]

Cerra a star , ? are you been facetious.

They're all superstars at Carlton.

Just always unlucky with injuries...

 

[Fadge]

Last time Cerra was healthy he flogged ur mob in a half of footy

Did Collingwood still win, or was it the dead rubber?

 

[Arr0w]

Pies played in a lot of dead rubbers this year it seems

 

[Worm4]

West Coast is 50/50 for the Blose , North will have the Blose number in 2025.

So even money bet against West Coast x 2 , will also assume you have Richmond as underdogs x 1 , and North have our measure.
This would mean that you pretty much have us finishing 17th or 18th with 1-3 , maybe 2 or 3 wins extra given a couple of upsets throughout the year.
Does that sound about right ?