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Banter Who will be Better in 2025, Collingwood or Carlton? Part 4
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Where have I seen this before?
Ah yes, your predictions and wagers that were a massive failure
Candy indeed
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Maybe because most of them weren't alive then. Even Melbourne fans are starting to pity you
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I suppose when you’re recruited to a joke of a club you have to prepare accordingly
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Just introducing them into the world of coterie groups and wealthy benefactors I'd imagine. Stock standard for any club that doesn't give away farms and tractors for a $1.50 like Geelong
The detail really aint that complex.
Figure out what you believe is important to winning (in baseball it is not getting out when at bat) and find players who actually consistently produce at a decent level against quality opposition.
The As big premise was to not fall for the hype and potential of a high school kid who looks good and has "potential"...especially because as soon as they get off their rookie contract a big club will swoop and just buy them anyway.
So focus on ready made players who are performing in minors/college against quality opposition as a much better probability of making a direct impact in the majors.
Hatterberg was a player the As identified as a mature player who would step straight into their best team who would give them 5-6 quality seasons, Perrymen expectation is the same from the Pies.
Hatteberg was signed as a free agent, so was Perrymen.
Hatteberg went to a team that wanted to contend and win, so has Perrymen.
Hatteberg hit the ground running, producing more for the As in his first year than he had ever done at the Redsox as they gave him a bigger role, that is the expectation for Perrymen.
Hatteberg helped the As make AL division series in post season in his first year, equivalent of AFL top4 and playing in a QF, that is the expectation for Perrymen.
Meanwhile with Pick 3, the Cincinatti Reds (a dominant team MBL team in the 1970s) took a high school pitcher. He amounted to nothing. The Reds didn't have a winning season until 2010, and havent even made a NL Championship Series (AFL PF equivalent) in the 21st century.
So just as the As did well immediately with Hatteberg, the Pies will be better than Carlton in 2025 with Perrymen.
Why have you left out 2022?
In June, the Baggers equal 2nd after Rd15, 1 game off top, Baggers were BACK baby.
But the pretenders got the Blueshakes in July and August to miss finals again.
Not sure what would be better for 2025, a 2022 style Carlton season collapse to miss finals or a 2024 collapse topped off with a 0-60 EF?
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I'm sorry but that is not what Moneyball is at all. It has nothing to do with player experience. It's all about using analytics to find players that are being undervalued in the market relative to the impact they would have on a specific team.
Perryman for 800K is being overvalued and that's largely because of the fact that he is a free agent and it's just the nature of that system. Houston for a big salary + sizeable draft capital is what you would expect for a player of that calibre - he isn't being undervalued by the market.
Moneyball is Carlton getting Blake Acres/Nic Newman/Elijah Hollands for pennies on the dollar and them having an impact on team performance that far outweighed what the market valued them at (i.e., 3rd/4th round picks). Pies have done it with the likes of Cameron/Lipinski/Frampton. And it doesn't always work but that is the risk - you are essentially betting against the market.
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As opposed to the above which is very sophisticated...?
The Carlton meme was appropriate in response to the regular use of the
symbol when Carlton supporters have nothing else.The Homer Simpson meme was a reference to a term that hasn't been PC since Carlton were contending for premierships.
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You called it "6-year old humour". Adding a bunch of clowns on player's faces seems like it fits well in that category.The Carlton meme was appropriate in response to the regular use of the
The Homer Simpson meme was a reference to a term that hasn't been PC since Carlton were contending for premierships.
Are you suggesting that using the clown symbol when responding to posters is similarly 6 year old humour?
Because that was the context in which the Carlton meme was shared.
Everything comes back to the Carlton supporters' 6 yo humour.
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Is posting a clown as a comment an attempt at humour?
More waffle "analysis" I see
Saw the same the last 2 years, when supposedly we were finishing 13th
Yet, it's the Pies still sitting in mexico. Any "analysis" as to why?
Saw the same the last 2 years, when supposedly we were finishing 13th
Yet, it's the Pies still sitting in mexico. Any "analysis" as to why?
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Clearly it is because Carlton had an 'easier' draw...Collingwood therefore were more deservng of an 8th. finishing position from where they would easily account for anyone they came against and gone back to back
amazing what tequilla can do to people's imaginations.
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I got a laugh out of both of them.
Dont really find sophisticated humour funny tbh. Keep it low brow, slapstick and juvenile thanks.
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Don't disagree
Jeez , remind me not to invite you to any parties.
Learn to lighten up a little and don't be so offended by a meme
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Well we did beat the premiers when they had to[ 4 to play for and we didn't in the 2nd last game of the year when we got half our players back from injury.
Dead rubber game
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