Banter Who will be better in 2025? Carlton or Collingwood Part 5

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Corn Cobbers said:
The bigger clubs play at better times, entrenching their dominance and are therefore more likely to attract players... does this really have to be explained?



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Bigger clubs playing at the MCG in front of massive crowds attracts some player yes. That will happen regardless of the day/time they play. Carlton could play 23 straight games on Saturday/Sunday afternoons and will still play in front of big crowds every week.
 
Worm4 said:
Without looking it up, we all know that Ian Stewart is a triple, diesel a dual, skilton a triple brownlow medalists. Astute AFL fans know these facts already.
Bugger all people care about an obscure handball, or a goal situation that has occurred many times over in many games. That's all cool - you can keep your little cherished memories to yourself . I'm sure when brownlow night comes around and Nick is favoured , that you won't be watching
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'Big moments in big games'...

The Heath Shaw Smother on Nick Riewoldt

The Wayne Harmes tap of the ball back in play

The Daicos/Pendlebury/Daicos/De Goey play

The Scarlett toe poke to GAJ

I know this concept is foreign to Carlton in the modern era, but people do care about these 'obscure plays that happen many times over in many games'.

That is why someone like Wayne Harmes is brought up in threads like this more so than Bruce Doull, despite Doull being an infinitely better player.

I would much prefer Daicos continue to have many more big moments in big games, as he has done many times already in his career, than have a career like PC37, with plenty of individual accolades but zero team success.
 

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oh looky look a pack peddling çonflation of " big moments "( another opinion) with "match winner" (another opinion) blah blah blah stoopid blah

the level of banter you push is an insult to decent Collingwood supporters and a source of mirth to any Carlton supporter.

well done!
 
I'd much prefer to see my team regularly fall short in Grand Finals (despite no other team having won more than us in the history of the game), than regularly hope my team lose when watching them play.

But that's the difference between a proud club who strives to be the best they can be, and a club that has completely lost its way and therefore its identity...
 
Fadge said:
I'd much prefer to see my team regularly fall short in Grand Finals (despite no other team having won more than us in the history of the game), than regularly hope my team lose when watching them play.

But that's the difference between a proud club who strives to be the best they can be, and a club that has completely lost its way and therefore its identity...
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blah blah deflection BS blah deflection blah blah

frEe fLagZ in 70 yEaRZ powanHouZe

LOL@ Fidgee wudgey
 
Worm4 said:
Without looking it up, we all know that Ian Stewart is a triple, diesel a dual, skilton a triple brownlow medalists. Astute AFL fans know these facts already.
Bugger all people care about an obscure handball, or a goal situation that has occurred many times over in many games. That's all cool - you can keep your little cherished memories to yourself . I'm sure when brownlow night comes around and Nick is favoured , that you won't be watching
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Without looking it up, we all know that Daics averages more Brownlow votes per game than any player in history. Astute AFL fans know this fact already

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Fadge said:
Do these Carlton nuffies EVER get anything right?
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A few of them are seriously gonna cry if we keep talking about the modern era they wanna talk Jezza and Harmesy and long-forgotten GFs the Pies lost way back in the velvet era when colour TV was new, like they were recent events that still resonate

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Corn Cobbers said:
A few of them are seriously gonna cry if we keep talking about the modern era they wanna talk Jezza and Harmesy and long-forgotten GFs the Pies lost way back in the velvet era when colour TV was new, like they were recent events that still resonate

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'If you guys want to keep talking about the modern era, and referencing our current premiership drought, we'll respond in kind and talk about the 70's and 80's...'
 

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Corn Cobbers said:
Without looking it up, we all know that Daics averages more Brownlow votes per game than any player in history. Astute AFL fans know this fact already

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But we all know that individual awards have no significant bearing with collingwood supporters, so I'm not really sure why you bring it up
 
Collingwood:
backline
Maynard (no better carlton equivalent) , Moore (Weitering) , Howe (McGovern is pretty good)
Quaynor (Saad though he's on the wrong side of 30) , McInnes (Young at the moment is better only because he's played games in defence) , Houston (no better carlton equivalent)
midfield: Sidebottom (Acres better on current form but in his prime was a absolute gun) , Perryman (Cripps has got him covered easily though i am a fan of Perryman) , Josh Daicos (will move to half-back but Cottrell is definitely not better)
followers: Cameron (De Koning is pretty good but Cameron is a freakishly good mark for a ruckman and takes heaps of intercept marks will win our BnF this year imo or share it with Nick) , De Goey (Walsh is probably better though both are stars) , Crisp (easily better than hamstring Cerra PING!)
forwards
McCreery (better than Fogarty because he can actually kick goals on general pressure he is better as well) , Mihocek (McKay is better) , Hoskin-Elliott (Hollands isn't as good as swiss army Hyphen and not as versatile)
Elliott (the blues can smell finals i'll leave it at that...) , McStay (yeah Free Kick Curnow is better) , Hill (who's better than him Durds? no)
 
MagpieExcalibur said:
Collingwood:
backline
Maynard (no better carlton equivalent) , Moore (Weitering) , Howe (McGovern is pretty good)
Quaynor (Saad though he's on the wrong side of 30) , McInnes (Young at the moment is better only because he's played games in defence) , Houston (no better carlton equivalent)
midfield: Sidebottom (Acres better on current form but in his prime was a absolute gun) , Perryman (Cripps has got him covered easily though i am a fan of Perryman) , Josh Daicos (will move to half-back but Cottrell is definitely not better)
followers: Cameron (De Koning is pretty good but Cameron is a freakishly good mark for a ruckman and takes heaps of intercept marks will win our BnF this year imo or share it with Nick) , De Goey (Walsh is probably better though both are stars) , Crisp (easily better than hamstring Cerra PING!)
forwards
McCreery (better than Fogarty because he can actually kick goals on general pressure he is better as well) , Mihocek (McKay is better) , Hoskin-Elliott (Hollands isn't as good as swiss army Hyphen and not as versatile)
Elliott (the blues can smell finals i'll leave it at that...) , McStay (yeah Free Kick Curnow is better) , Hill (who's better than him Durds? no)
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What's this?

And why don't Naicos or Pendlebury get a mention?
 
MagpieExcalibur said:
Collingwood:
backline
Maynard (no better carlton equivalent) , Moore (Weitering) , Howe (McGovern is pretty good)
Quaynor (Saad though he's on the wrong side of 30) , McInnes (Young at the moment is better only because he's played games in defence) , Houston (no better carlton equivalent)
midfield: Sidebottom (Acres better on current form but in his prime was a absolute gun) , Perryman (Cripps has got him covered easily though i am a fan of Perryman) , Josh Daicos (will move to half-back but Cottrell is definitely not better)
followers: Cameron (De Koning is pretty good but Cameron is a freakishly good mark for a ruckman and takes heaps of intercept marks will win our BnF this year imo or share it with Nick) , De Goey (Walsh is probably better though both are stars) , Crisp (easily better than hamstring Cerra PING!)
forwards
McCreery (better than Fogarty because he can actually kick goals on general pressure he is better as well) , Mihocek (McKay is better) , Hoskin-Elliott (Hollands isn't as good as swiss army Hyphen and not as versatile)
Elliott (the blues can smell finals i'll leave it at that...) , McStay (yeah Free Kick Curnow is better) , Hill (who's better than him Durds? no)
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kind of an awkward summary you've shared with us.
 
Fadge said:
Appreciate those players would be best 23 for Carlton, but we'll let them develop and unleash when they're ready - anything we get out of them in 2025 is a bonus.
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Corey Durdin would only be best 23 at Carlton or Port and depth anywhere else and i'm a fan his stats are very poor for a small forward
 

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