Which clubs have the best 25 and under team?

[Footy Smarts]

It's just the self-assured confidence that all three will be better than any kid on our list. Like I said, good on you for the confidence you may as well back yourself in I guess. I still think it's a ridiculous statement as so much in footy can change but maybe I'm just a fence sitter.

I would say if Wardlaw and McKercher reach the level Nasiah is at right now North would be pretty happy.

Agreed there's a lot of anchoring to draft pick number. NWM and Owens would be rated higher if they performed the same but were taken in the top 5.

It feels weirdly like the early 2000s when we were assured Corey, Enright, Bartel, Chapman, Johnson, etc could never compete with Reiwoldt, Koschitzke, X Clarke, R Clarke, Ball, etc.

 

[1990crow]

FB: Michalanney/Keane/Worrell
HB: Jones/NMurray/Nankervis
_C Sholl/Draper/Dowling
HF: Rachele/Curtin/Berry
FF: Rankine/Thilthorpe/Pedlar
_R: TMurray/Soligo/Peatling
IN: Cook/Taylor/Borlase/Bond
SU: Schoenberg
EM: Edwards/Ryan/Welsh

Strengths are definitely key position defenders and lots of quality in the forward line.

Midfield is a weakness but with Draper and Peatling coming in it looks less dire. Plus Curtin would’ve been in there if not that I needed a chf and Curtin can play there.

Rucks is a genuine issue, Toby Murray at 200cm is only a part timer at this stage.

Another positive is that a lot of these players are in our best 23 anyway.

When you look at the quality of Rankine, Rachele, Thilthorpe, Curtin, Soligo, Draper and Michalanney all under 25 its a good place to be in.

 

[Elixuh]

Brisbane doesn’t have the best, but we have plenty of very good players in that bracket. I think we had the three youngest players on the ground in the grand final.

 

[Jirik13]

Updated Gold Coast. Pretty happy with it.

FB: Budarick Andrew Uwland
HB: Jeffrey Ballard Powell
C: Johnston Anderson Clohesy
HF: Humphrey Walter Rogers
FF: Lombard King Berry
FOL: Moyle Rowell Flanders
I/C: Read Davies W Graham Rosas

 

[gungho]

I have been following Freo for 30 years and this is by far the best bunch of under 25 year olds they have ever accumulated.
Treacy, Amiss, Jackson, Young, Serong, Clark are stars, while Chapman, Frederick and Walker are already good AFL players. Johnson, O Driscoll, Draper and Sturt have showed promise, and the best player in the WAFL grand final (Erasmus) can't even break into the team. (Also, Brayshaw, Bolton, Darcy and Cox are only 26)

Whether they can keep everyone together and win a premiership is yet to be seen of course.

 

[Mr Meow]

I have been following Freo for 30 years and this is by far the best bunch of under 25 year olds they have ever accumulated.
Treacy, Amiss, Jackson, Young, Serong, Clark are stars, while Chapman, Frederick and Walker are already good AFL players. Johnson, O Driscoll, Draper and Sturt have showed promise, and the best player in the WAFL grand final (Erasmus) can't even break into the team. (Also, Brayshaw, Darcy and Cox are only 26)

Whether they can keep everyone together and win a premiership is yet to be seen of course.

With the right coach and game plan they can.

What goes on between the ears is probably their bigger issue right now, as opposed to talent (not the players you mentioned, I mean the overall squad).

 

[Dr Tigris]

I have been following Freo for 30 years and this is by far the best bunch of under 25 year olds they have ever accumulated.
Treacy, Amiss, Jackson, Young, Serong, Clark are stars, while Chapman, Frederick and Walker are already good AFL players. Johnson, O Driscoll, Draper and Sturt have showed promise, and the best player in the WAFL grand final (Erasmus) can't even break into the team. (Also, Brayshaw, Bolton, Darcy and Cox are only 26)

Whether they can keep everyone together and win a premiership is yet to be seen of course.

It's a great squad. And Freo has picked up pieces that will make a difference for 2025 on. They won't die dreaming. Hope the purple haze do grab a title.


Then they slide as the Tigers come up for a sixpeat

 

[ScrappyDo]

Lol what a ridiculous thing to say. How tf could you possibly predict that?

StKilda FC is living rent free in his head. Gauging by his monotonous shit throwing it must pain him significantly, pleasing.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Knevitt is clearly a make or break year. He's got some strengths but needs to improve a lot from what he's shown to make it. I have my doubts.

Bruhn is going fine. He's an exceptional clearance player (top 30 in the league on low game time) and a really good kick. He just needs to take another step forward with his outside game and stop getting niggly injuries that held him back last year. He'll be a solid long-term player. The question is whether he can become an A-grader.

Bruhn's ceiling may be like Jeager O'Meara.

Some games you see him everywhere, and he has 28, 5 tackles and kicks 2.
Other weeks he has 9 disposals and a couple of tackles and you curse his name.

He's performing quite solidly compared to the rest of his draft class at the very least.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Bruhn's ceiling may be like Jeager O'Meara.

Some games you see him everywhere, and he has 28, 5 tackles and kicks 2.
Other weeks he has 9 disposals and a couple of tackles and you curse his name.

He's performing quite solidly compared to the rest of his draft class at the very least.

Geez, that’s a pretty disrespectful take on O’meara, and in turn Bruhn.

JOM quite literally had zero games of <10 disposal at Hawthorn, when he was at his peak so I don’t know why you’d make out like he did it quite often.

Even if you want to look at his <20 disposal games, prior to being used more on the flanks in his last year with us(where he had 8 of them), he had only 13 of these games out of a total of 72 games over 4 seasons.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Geez, that’s a pretty disrespectful take on O’meara, and in turn Bruhn.

JOM quite literally had zero games of <10 disposal at Hawthorn, when he was at his peak so I don’t know why you’d make out like he did it quite often.

Even if you want to look at his <20 disposal games, prior to being used more on the flanks in his last year with us(where he had 8 of them), he had only 13 of these games out of a total of 72 games over 4 seasons.

May have been an exaggeration on the specific numbers, I'll admit.

The main point being that with O'Meara, you couldn't bank on a performance. You could never safely go into a game thinking 'well I know what JOM will provide at least'.

I like Bruhn. Liked him in his draft year. I've see him put together some solid form, but then struggle to really follow it up. That's how I felt about JOM the entire time he played for us. I was probably harsher on him than others though, admittedly.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

May have been an exaggeration on the specific numbers, I'll admit.

The main point being that with O'Meara, you couldn't bank on a performance. You could never safely go into a game thinking 'well I know what JOM will provide at least'.

I like Bruhn. Liked him in his draft year. I've see him put together some solid form, but then struggle to really follow it up. That's how I felt about JOM the entire time he played for us. I was probably harsher on him than others though, admittedly.

Well this is just crap too, to be honest. There was a reason his teammates loved him and why he was in the leadership group, and it was the opposite of what you’re suggesting.

Go back and look at what he was doing between 2018-2021, averaging 25 disposals a game and always lead the way in his endeavor on the field.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Well this is just crap too, to be honest. There was a reason his teammates loved him and why he was in the leadership group, and it was the opposite of what you’re suggesting.

Go back and look at what he was doing between 2018-2021, averaging 25 disposals a game and always lead the way in his endeavor on the field.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

We'll have to agree to disagree.

So you post a bunch of stuff that’s factually incorrect, and then just say “agree to disagree”.

 

[Blackhawk42]

So you post a bunch of stuff that’s factually incorrect, and then just say “agree to disagree”.

No, I admitted to exaggerating the statistics.

We overpaid for O'Meara and in return received 99 inconsistent games during one of the blandest and most insignificant periods of our clubs last 30 years.
Saying 'his team mates loved him' doesn't change any of that.

However, as you are aware, we aren't allowed to discuss this on the Hawthorn board anymore, so I'm happy to leave my opinion here. And leave it at that.

 

[Chip Scab1]

StKilda FC is living rent free in his head. Gauging by his monotonous shit throwing it must pain him significantly, pleasing.

Why?

Hawthorn are younger, better already and look likely to have a better future, than St.Kilda.

I must have missed your finals appearances, forgive me.

 

[Pistol Night]

I’m not sure we have any

 

[Giant Pete]

Ash Taylor Fonti
Idun Aleer Stone
Angwin Callaghan Fahey
Daniels Riccardi Brown
Jones Cadman McMullin
Briggs Green Bedford

Leake Rowston Madden Gothard Derksen

Then this years draftees.

Not bad I reckon.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Why?

Hawthorn are younger, better already and look likely to have a better future, than St.Kilda.

I must have missed your finals appearances, forgive me.

Missing things seems to be your fortè...

 

[Chip Scab1]

Missing things seems to be your fortè...

I came off a motorbike, did myself a mischief, was overseas from 2005, and basically all of COVID, feel like you guys were good in 2004-2010- am i missing something?

Aren't we in 2024?

I wouldn't swap Sheezel, McKercher, Duursma or O'Sullivan for Wanganeen. Gorgeous George? No way in hell, even though George can't kick, I still wouldn't.

NWM is better than Simpkin, Scott & Phillips. I'll pay that.

LDU? Laughable not even close
Parker? Probably by 2027.
Larkey? Possibly but no.
Xerri? Unlikely
Logue? Yeah, nah.
Stephens? yep
Daniel? probably

I still don't get your list build.
I do wish Mason all the best though.

 

[Mr Meow]

Ash Taylor Fonti
Idun Aleer Stone
Angwin Callaghan Fahey
Daniels Riccardi Brown
Jones Cadman McMullin
Briggs Green Bedford

Leake Rowston Madden Gothard Derksen

Then this years draftees.

Not bad I reckon.

GWS have basically had the best kids for 12 years now.

 

[ScrappyDo]

I came off a motorbike, did myself a mischief, was overseas from 2005, and basically all of COVID, feel like you guys were good in 2004-2010- am i missing something?

Aren't we in 2024?

I wouldn't swap Sheezel, McKercher, Duursma or O'Sullivan for Wanganeen. Gorgeous George? No way in hell, even though George can't kick, I still wouldn't.

NWM is better than Simpkin, Scott & Phillips. I'll pay that.

LDU? Laughable not even close
Parker? Probably by 2027.
Larkey? Possibly but no.
Xerri? Unlikely
Logue? Yeah, nah.
Stephens? yep
Daniel? probably

I still don't get your list build.
I do wish Mason all the best though.

Look, you seen like a decent fella but l have no idea WTF you're talking about. Let's just leave it there.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

No, I admitted to exaggerating the statistics.

We overpaid for O'Meara and in return received 99 inconsistent games during one of the blandest and most insignificant periods of our clubs last 30 years.
Saying 'his team mates loved him' doesn't change any of that.

However, as you are aware, we aren't allowed to discuss this on the Hawthorn board anymore, so I'm happy to leave my opinion here. And leave it at that.

We didn’t receive 99 inconsistent games, as I’ve already pointed out.

At least you’ve admitted that you made exaggerations.

The coach doesn’t put him in the leadership group if he was as poor as you make out, and sure you can discuss O’meara on the Hawthorn board, but when it is brought up for the 689th time by posters who want reparations for what they personally deem was a too hefty trade price in a trade period from 8 years ago in threads that are about anything but that then yeah it very quickly gets removed so that threads can stay on topic and people don’t have to read it all again.

 

[Giant Pete]

GWS have basically had the best kids for 12 years now.

Lots of our good kids get taken

 

[Worm4]

Lol 19 votes for Collingwood.
It's under 25, not over 25