Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

[NT.Thunder]

AFLW will never be watchable

 

[Woolly Mammoth]

AFLW will never be watchable

 

[Caligo]

Dangerfield and Martin are the only players Bont is really competing against to be the best of the last decade, but he's still a bit of a way baback.

Greene and Cameron are the two others that come to mind if you aren't just talking about midfielders (which I assume you aren't since you also mentioned Bud).

Not sure who the best of the last 10 years is for mine, but Jezza, Toby, Danger, Dusty and Cripps are all guys I would be considering before Bont.

I feel like Cripps in particular gets overlooked too much because of the shambles that is Carlton.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

I feel like Cripps in particular gets overlooked too much because of the shambles that is Carlton.

Yep, incredible footballer. Max Gawn needs to be in the conversation too I think.

 

[Libbaaaa]

There shouldn’t be any posters. If the ball hits the post and goes through it’s a goal, if it comes back into play, play on etc… would be more exciting and eliminate goal umpire error.

 

[chunkylover]

There shouldn’t be any posters. If the ball hits the post and goes through it’s a goal, if it comes back into play, play on etc… would be more exciting and eliminate goal umpire error.

Agree, shots after the siren not included though. Imagine down by 1, hitting the post and knowing if you missed by 3m more it would’ve been a better result

 

[GhostofJimJess]

There shouldn’t be any posters. If the ball hits the post and goes through it’s a goal, if it comes back into play, play on etc… would be more exciting and eliminate goal umpire error.

Agree wholeheartedly with the bolded, but not the italic'd (fair enough to call play on if it rebounds off the behind post, but not the goal post)

 

[Cuzz09]

I could see that being introduced one day.

Be weird if the ball was in the air as the siren went then hit the post.



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[Caligo]

It is pretty darn exciting when the ball hits the post and you need to react to it in league or union.

I like the history of afl with respect to the post, but the entertainment factor would be significant.

 

[werdna78]

Agree with this, the only player I've ever seen that does every single element of the game perfectly. Add to that, with his height he can play as a rover or full forward and still dominate.

Needs to kick more goals, both Dusty and Danger have kicked more goals than Bontempelli since 2014.

He is going to be one of the greats though, if he can keep producing what he has been for another 5 years.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Needs to kick more goals, both Dusty and Danger have kicked more goals than Bontempelli since 2014.

He is going to be one of the greats though, if he can keep producing what he has been for another 5 years.

Whilst that is true, both have spent far more time playing as pure forwards than Bont I would have thought.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

It is pretty darn exciting when the ball hits the post and you need to react to it in league or union.

I agree, but if we're rewarding shots that miss the main goal area by up to 7 metres, it'd be incongruous to not get reward from a shot that misses by 7 centimetres.

 

[Caligo]

I agree, but if we're rewarding shots that miss the main goal area by up to 7 metres, it'd be incongruous to not get reward from a shot that misses by 7 centimetres.

You could pay the point but play on. It isn't the same obviously, but in RL especially, hitting the posts with a kick can be a strategy to attempt to generate confusion in the defence to assist with scoring.

There are options. But I would still just stick with the traditional.

 

[Engimal v3]

Yep, incredible footballer. Max Gawn needs to be in the conversation too I think.

Well this is an unpopular opinion thread I guess

 

[Caligo]

Well this is an unpopular opinion thread I guess

Max gawn has been pretty extraordinary. I do think his best "skill" is dropping back against teams that blindly bomb it forward. That doesn't tend to work well against competent teams.

(Absolutely destroys hawthorn though...)

 

[Wallaby]

You could pay the point but play on.

Oh, that could be fun. Get a Joe the Goose over the top in the goal square and just tap the ball 5-6 times on the post. When the last defender finally catches up with you, then just kick it through. Result - 1 goal, 5-6 'rushed' behinds.

I agree with the 'entertainment' value of the 'rebound off the post and play on', but it makes a mockery of entire scoring system.

 

[Quivorir]

What? You're not getting a point for it hitting the post in the scenario.thats the point of the discussed change. The result would be one goal.

 

[Cuzz09]

Hopefully they get that VR stuff happening in the near future where you can sit at home on your couch and watch a live game and change your seat whenever you want.

The ball is in the goal square down the other end, I'll sit there.

We've got a kick out... Switch to sky cam to see what options etc

Be pretty cool

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[Cuzz09]

AFLW coaches should be women.
AFL coaches should be men.

Surely the AFLW coaches who are men aren't walking around in the change rooms with half naked women trying to talk tactics or rev them up?

Eyes up here coach

The in room cameras that show the blokes half nude before/after games should be removed and/or chuck it in the girls room.

Equality n all that

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[Quivorir]

Why are the women half naked in your scenario? Its reasonably common to see shirtless men in the general public. Can't say I know any women that galavant around topless. If you do, I'd like to meet them.

 

[CakeEater]

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[sdfc]

I think you're both misunderstanding me (and possibly the bloke who initially posted the big Bont call). This is about the last decade. Anything pre 2014 is not relevant.

Fyfe has been magnificent, and a better player than Bont across his whole career - possibly my favourite non-Tiger player of the last 20 years. But between 2014-2023, there's no doubt he's had a lesser overall output than Danger, Dusty and Bont. For starters, he's only averaged about 13 games/year for the last 8 seasons. 2019 he was phenomenal, but for the other 7 years he's had <50 Brownlow votes in total. Just not comparable to those other three, especially given his lack of finals and finals output.

Ablett and Franklin are all-time greats, and their careers in entirety far outweigh that of Bont. Absolute hall of famers, the pair of them. But both did most of their best work pre-2014, and neither have even secured in a premiership during that time. In fact, while Buddy was pretty decent in the losing 2016 GF, both had shockers in 2020 (GAJ injured early) and 2022 (Buddy should've stayed at home) GFs respectively.

Dangerfield and Martin are the only players Bont is really competing against to be the best of the last decade, but he's still a bit of a way back.

You've really just backed up my point. He's been injured for the last four years and prior to that he played in a shit side. Fyfe not being good in finals is a myth. He played most of a prelim final with a fractured leg and was still one of our best.

It's all subjective, but I agree Ablett and Franklin are top of the pile. In my maybe unpopular opinion.

 

[Caligo]

You've really just backed up my point. He's been injured for the last four years and prior to that he played in a s**t side. Fyfe not being good in finals is a myth. He played most of a prelim final with a fractured leg and was still one of our best.

It's all subjective, but I agree Ablett and Franklin are top of the pile. In my maybe unpopular opinion.

Fyfe's poor kicking in his only GF is not a myth. It cost Fremantle a flag. They could have broken hawthorn in that first quarter.

I agree with you about gaj/bud clearly being on top though. By a long way.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

1. McGuire has been a toxic influence on the game.
2. 18 is the outlier number of teams that should play in the Comp. One of the Melbourne based Clubs need to go.
3. A promotion relegation system for the Melbourne Clubs would add enormous interest
4. The fixture is a product of Vic bias.

 

[Caligo]

A promotion relegation system for the Melbourne Clubs would add enormous interest

It would add enormous interest, and kill the tanking model, but for a variety of reasons it just would not work.

If we were to institute it, it would actually massively derail attempts at equalisation (good players would be even less willing to sign with clubs with relegation potential).

Maybe one day when AFL is really big and really rich and even the 2nd division is well paid english football style. And I am not even sure that ever happens.