West Coast Eagles Priority Pick (2024)

[amazingjoshy]

Imagine having to deal with two at once.

Shouldn't have picked Harley because he was always going home....

but

should have picked Murphy even though he had the exact same go home risk, and there was an equally rated WA guy available (and we managed to get a bonus pick out of it)

Outstanding logic from some

 

[amazingjoshy]

Damo says he'll spew if they get one.

Lol Damo, no one cares mate

I don't particularly want the club to ask for a PP tbh because I think they should never be a thing. But the logic for WC not getting one because it's "self inflicted" is so dumb

When is it not self inflicted? Who's fault is it that North are shit?

 

[Madas]

Freo are shit and we’ve never had a PP
Can we have one too please ?

 

[amazingjoshy]

Freo are shit and we’ve never had a PP
Can we have one too please ?

Depends, who's fault is it?

Or something like that

 

[freo1]

Lol Damo, no one cares mate

I don't particularly want the club to ask for a PP tbh because I think they should never be a thing. But the logic for WC not getting one because it's "self inflicted" is so dumb

When is it not self inflicted? Who's fault is it that North are shit?

There's a raft of reasons why any one team may be shit - you cant really compare apples and oranges, but I think Damo's point is pretty correct - The Eagles continued to give contracts to players who were past it and/or perennially injured. The problem here was everyone could see it unfolding, except for the eagles. The likes of NN and Shuey getting additional years when they were clearly broken was laughable. Barras shouldve been shipped to Sydney a year earlier for better draft capital, but again they didnt want to make the tough call. They instead waited for the player to jump.

Club's like North if anything just did the opposite and too harshly. North cut too many experienced people at once and haven drafted as well. Being a minnow of the comp they also havent had the $$ to attract big game players. It hasnt been through lack of them trying on their behalf. The eagles on the other hand have everything, but were particularly over enthusiastic and arrogant in giving games and contracts to mates. Even the signing of Yeo last year to a multi-year deal proves they're not learning.

Finally, with a new coach, at least it seems they're moving past the games for mates situation, by dropping the likes of Kelly.

I actually feel really sorry for Kelly. He deserves to be dropped, but i think he's still a gun player - he just needs a team around him. I'd happily have him at Freo. I think he'd get back to his Geelong form playing for us, with a seasoned midfield around him to take the pressure off.

 

[random260]

The source of reason and truth from the vfl clubs is eddie mcguire. He said Eagles are an important club and need to be at the top.

Gcs package is the bare mim. Damo needs to shut it. Wce can easily pull their funding and a precious vfl club will fold.

This is not a negotiation

 

[Lia]

Can't blame other supporters being against it, I was against other clubs receiving picks out of blatant self interest.

 

[Lia]

Eagles tanking hard now for a PP

Considering how bad Kelly has been this year, I don't believe that dropping him or a role player like Cole creates a very strong argument for tanking.

 

[JackOutback]

There's a raft of reasons why any one team may be shit - you cant really compare apples and oranges, but I think Damo's point is pretty correct - The Eagles continued to give contracts to players who were past it and/or perennially injured. The problem here was everyone could see it unfolding, except for the eagles. The likes of NN and Shuey getting additional years when they were clearly broken was laughable. Barras shouldve been shipped to Sydney a year earlier for better draft capital, but again they didnt want to make the tough call. They instead waited for the player to jump.

Club's like North if anything just did the opposite and too harshly. North cut too many experienced people at once and haven drafted as well. Being a minnow of the comp they also havent had the $$ to attract big game players. It hasnt been through lack of them trying on their behalf. The eagles on the other hand have everything, but were particularly over enthusiastic and arrogant in giving games and contracts to mates. Even the signing of Yeo last year to a multi-year deal proves they're not learning.

Finally, with a new coach, at least it seems they're moving past the games for mates situation, by dropping the likes of Kelly.

I actually feel really sorry for Kelly. He deserves to be dropped, but i think he's still a gun player - he just needs a team around him. I'd happily have him at Freo. I think he'd get back to his Geelong form playing for us, with a seasoned midfield around him to take the pressure off.

You've really had top contort to come to this conclusion. The Eagles didn't cut enough so it's their fault. North cut way too hard but it's not their fault. What is the exact amount of list cutting that qualifies for a PP?

 

[Scotland]

Damo says he'll spew if they get one.

Yeah, would be a real shame for rival clubs to be adversely impacted.

 

[bzparkes]

Damo says he'll spew if they get one.

That's reason to give us one right there.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Eagles tanking hard now for a PP

Are we tanking or bad?

Probably have to make up your mind either way

 

[Scotland]

Are we tanking or bad?

Probably have to make up your mind either way

Schrodinger's Tank.

 

[bzparkes]

Are we tanking or bad?

Probably have to make up your mind either way

People accusing us of tanking by dropping Kelly & Cole clearly haven't watched those 2 play this year.

I'd argue our chances of winning just went up.

 

[Scotland]

Remember that time we tanked against Essendon in Rd 21 2023 to get Harley Reid.
Then we beat the Bulldogs in Rd 23 to lose Harley Reid.
Then North won in Rd 24 and gave us Harley Reid.

Nostalgic.

 

[freo1]

You've really had top contort to come to this conclusion. The Eagles didn't cut enough so it's their fault. North cut way too hard but it's not their fault. What is the exact amount of list cutting that qualifies for a PP?

you dont get it? North did it by actually trying to help the situation - acknowledging the need for rebuild. The eagles didnt because they were arrogant and keeping jobs for mates - eg. ignoring the need to rebuild.

 

[THE_GUN]

Just get rid of PP once and good

Stupid system

I would rather give bottom 4 clubs that have been bottom 4 for 3 years extra 5 list spots and an extra $500k salary cap space to get
5 extra young kids to develop

 

[Scotland]

you dont get it? North did it by actually trying to help the situation - acknowledging the need for rebuild. The eagles didnt because they were arrogant and keeping jobs for mates - eg. ignoring the need to rebuild.

What did North do to help the situation?

WC and North played each other in the prelim in 2015. Both made finals in 2016.

West Coast and North made the same number of draft selections in 2016 after North delisted Harvey, Petrie, Dal Samto and Firrito. North made 5 picks in 2017, West Coast 6.

2018 WC won the flag, North came 9th. North added Polec (26) and Pittard (27), plus Dom Tyson (25) and Aaron Hall (28) then made 4 picks in the draft. WC made 4 picks also.

2019 WC came 5th, North 12th. WC traded for Tim Kelly (boo hiss, worst trade ever etc.). WC gave up pick 16.
2020 WC 5th, North 17th. WC gave up pick 18 from the Kelly trade.
2021 WC 9th, North 18th.
2022- both teams bottom 4 fodder.

What is it exactly people think WC should have done? Or want them to do? Were WC supposed to turn over the list in 2021? Before we were shit?

 

[BigPond101]

What is it exactly people think WC should have done? Or want them to do? Were WC supposed to turn over the list in 2021? Before we were shit?

Giving NicNat a massive long term contract when they knew was barely going to play again just because he was the most popular player and sold the most merch $$ and the Eagles felt untouchable after winning in 2018. This level of arrogance shouldn't be rewarded with a PP.

The Eagles thought they were so special they could be some WWE style hybrid sports entertainment / professional sports team and the on field stuff would just take care of itself becaus "we are the Eagles." Now that it's gone to hell they want a bail out

 

[Scotland]

Giving NicNat a massive long term contract when they knew was barely going to play again just because he was the most popular player and sold the most merch $$ and the Eagles felt untouchable after winning in 2018. This level of arrogance shouldn't be rewarded with a PP.

Are you talking about the two year contract Naitanui signed in 2022? Iffy, but not what I would call a massive long term deal.

If you are talking about the 3 year deal he signed in 2018 then I would say given he made the AA side in 2020 and 2021 that's probably not the worst deal in the world.

What arrogance should be rewarded with a PP? People seem intent on framing every decision WC have made to get to this point as "your own fault!" but apparently it's OK to trade Jack Bowes WITH pick 7 because you can't manage your salary cap, or de-list club legends then two years later sign a bunch of plodders etc.

The Eagles thought they were so special they could be some WWE style hybrid sports entertainment / professional sports team and the on field stuff would just take care of itself becaus "we are the Eagles." Now that it's gone to hell they want a bail out

To date WC have received nada. I doubt the AFL will give us anything but given the state of the draft a team at the bottom getting a pick at the end of the first round is a pretty minor concern.

 

[bluespooner]

Freo are shit and we’ve never had a PP
Can we have one too please ?

Fremantle have receive a couple of PPs. Paul Haselby and the pick Hawthorn used for Luke Hodge was traded by Fremantle.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

There's a raft of reasons why any one team may be shit - you cant really compare apples and oranges, but I think Damo's point is pretty correct - The Eagles continued to give contracts to players who were past it and/or perennially injured. The problem here was everyone could see it unfolding, except for the eagles. The likes of NN and Shuey getting additional years when they were clearly broken was laughable. Barras shouldve been shipped to Sydney a year earlier for better draft capital, but again they didnt want to make the tough call. They instead waited for the player to jump.

Club's like North if anything just did the opposite and too harshly. North cut too many experienced people at once and haven drafted as well. Being a minnow of the comp they also havent had the $$ to attract big game players. It hasnt been through lack of them trying on their behalf. The eagles on the other hand have everything, but were particularly over enthusiastic and arrogant in giving games and contracts to mates. Even the signing of Yeo last year to a multi-year deal proves they're not learning.

Finally, with a new coach, at least it seems they're moving past the games for mates situation, by dropping the likes of Kelly.

I actually feel really sorry for Kelly. He deserves to be dropped, but i think he's still a gun player - he just needs a team around him. I'd happily have him at Freo. I think he'd get back to his Geelong form playing for us, with a seasoned midfield around him to take the pressure off.

So what you're saying is if you gut your list like north did to get a raft of picks and then you obviously go to shit as a result, then it's justified they receive 5 priority picks as well, along with the fudged free agency compo they received for mckay.

On the flip side if you sign all your stars, mostly AA calibre premiership players, to long term deals and then have some bad luck and several of them have the end of their careers derailed by injury as part of an unprecedented injury crisis on the back of soft cap cuts, then you should just suck it up and do it tough while a team in the exact same position a couple of years earlier just received a stack of assistance?

This is without considering the fact that while we have been trying to rebuild as a "historically bad side" that the victorian media love to remind everyone about, that all of our picks have been pushed back to an unprecedented level by a draft that is increasingly compromised every year by academies and free agency compensation that we haven't been a beneficiary of at all.

Our 2nd rounder the last 2 seasons has been in the 30s, meanwhile you have premiership sides picking up number 1 picks, a stacked gold coast list getting multiple top 10s, vic sides getting extremely inflated compensation for middling to shit players.

The entire system is compromised and the notion that a few handouts for an extremely poor side that hasn't received anything while almost every other club around them has is somehow a bridge too far is laughable.

The entire point of priority assistance is to help poor sides that are struggling to the point that it can effect the product and the fairness of the competiton and there has never been a less even playing field when it comes to talent acquisition so I can't think of many more appropriate instances where priority assistance would be required.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Giving NicNat a massive long term contract when they knew was barely going to play again just because he was the most popular player and sold the most merch $$ and the Eagles felt untouchable after winning in 2018. This level of arrogance shouldn't be rewarded with a PP.

The Eagles thought they were so special they could be some WWE style hybrid sports entertainment / professional sports team and the on field stuff would just take care of itself becaus "we are the Eagles." Now that it's gone to hell they want a bail out

Which massive long term contract was that?

He was on a massive one until the end of 2019, then resigned another 3 year contract at a reduced rate and then went on to be the all australian ruckman in 2 of those seasons before he got injured halfway through the third season. He then signed another 2 year extension at the end of that season, following the 2 AA's on an even further reduced rate and then wasn't able to get on the park in 2023 and retired 1 year into the 2 year deal.

You just pulled all of that complete rubbish out of your ass, reads like some rubbish you'd see in "Flagmantle's" facebook comments.

 

[JackOutback]

Just get rid of PP once and good

Stupid system

I would rather give bottom 4 clubs that have been bottom 4 for 3 years extra 5 list spots and an extra $500k salary cap space to get
5 extra young kids to develop

I’d happily chuck PPs as long as academy and father-son picks that turn pick 19 into pick 30 go the same way.

 

[Madas]

Fremantle have receive a couple of PPs. Paul Haselby and the pick Hawthorn used for Luke Hodge was traded by Fremantle.

See what I’m saying